Re: [qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-24 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 23.10.2016 um 23:14 schrieb Marek Marczykowski-Górecki:
> I think we can keep its current state. Shouldn't be a problem for Qubes
> 4.0 and later. At least until next major incompatible changes in KDE...

I'm wondering whether I should try to get one of the discontinued Lenovo
P50 with 3840x2160 dots at 15" just to make someone's eyes bleed
enough... Believe me, even with all available settings it is not usable
with xfce; not everything in a window will be text and not every
application is taking care of adapting to Xft.dpi.


Achim


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Re: [qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-24 Thread Zrubi
On 10/23/2016 11:14 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

>> Good to see that I'm not the only Qubes user out there who finds KDE to
>> be more usable than the alternatives.  Totally agree -- I really hope
>> KDE continues to be supported on Qubes for those who prefer it.

I'm also chosed to use the new version of the "broken" KDE instead of
switching to Xfce.


> I think we can keep its current state. Shouldn't be a problem for Qubes
> 4.0 and later. At least until next major incompatible changes in KDE...

The problem is that the old KDE 4 was mature enough to just leave it as
it was packed by the Fedora 18, 20.
But KDE 5 is heavily developed so not even bugfixes gonne be released to
F23 - we currently using in dom0

So KDE 5 support would means to me:
- keep an up to date Fedora release in dom0
- and/or backport KDE 5 packages to the actual dom0 release - whatever
it is based on.


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Re: [qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-23 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 08:17:24PM +, Jeremy Rand wrote:
> 7v5w7go9ub0o:
> > 
> > On 10/23/2016 09:38 AM, Achim Patzner wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >>
> >> After a few months of severe suffering from xfce on a HiDPI display I
> >> gave in and installed @kde-desktop-qubes on my system – and I'm pretty
> >> sure I don't want to see xfce for the next few years. Title bars have a
> >> usable size (something that cannot be configured in xfce without
> >> building your own themes), icon aren't scaled randomly and fonts are
> >> finally looking as they should. And third-party software like Softmaker
> >> Office is finally working as expected. So: Will there be support for KDE
> >> beyond Qubes 3.2 or will I have to plan for carrying a third machine for
> >> my office work space?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > Never thought I'd admit it, but KDE (despite its legendary (and today
> > overstated) bloat and complexity) - actually works rather well.
> 
> Good to see that I'm not the only Qubes user out there who finds KDE to
> be more usable than the alternatives.  Totally agree -- I really hope
> KDE continues to be supported on Qubes for those who prefer it.

I think we can keep its current state. Shouldn't be a problem for Qubes
4.0 and later. At least until next major incompatible changes in KDE...

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Re: [qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-23 Thread Jeremy Rand
7v5w7go9ub0o:
> 
> On 10/23/2016 09:38 AM, Achim Patzner wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> After a few months of severe suffering from xfce on a HiDPI display I
>> gave in and installed @kde-desktop-qubes on my system – and I'm pretty
>> sure I don't want to see xfce for the next few years. Title bars have a
>> usable size (something that cannot be configured in xfce without
>> building your own themes), icon aren't scaled randomly and fonts are
>> finally looking as they should. And third-party software like Softmaker
>> Office is finally working as expected. So: Will there be support for KDE
>> beyond Qubes 3.2 or will I have to plan for carrying a third machine for
>> my office work space?
> 
> +1
> 
> Never thought I'd admit it, but KDE (despite its legendary (and today
> overstated) bloat and complexity) - actually works rather well.

Good to see that I'm not the only Qubes user out there who finds KDE to
be more usable than the alternatives.  Totally agree -- I really hope
KDE continues to be supported on Qubes for those who prefer it.

Cheers,
-Jeremy

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Re: [qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-23 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o


On 10/23/2016 09:38 AM, Achim Patzner wrote:

Hi!


After a few months of severe suffering from xfce on a HiDPI display I
gave in and installed @kde-desktop-qubes on my system – and I'm pretty
sure I don't want to see xfce for the next few years. Title bars have a
usable size (something that cannot be configured in xfce without
building your own themes), icon aren't scaled randomly and fonts are
finally looking as they should. And third-party software like Softmaker
Office is finally working as expected. So: Will there be support for KDE
beyond Qubes 3.2 or will I have to plan for carrying a third machine for
my office work space?


+1

Never thought I'd admit it, but KDE (despite its legendary (and today 
overstated) bloat and complexity) - actually works rather well.



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[qubes-users] Future plans for KDE on Qubes?

2016-10-23 Thread Achim Patzner
Hi!


After a few months of severe suffering from xfce on a HiDPI display I
gave in and installed @kde-desktop-qubes on my system – and I'm pretty
sure I don't want to see xfce for the next few years. Title bars have a
usable size (something that cannot be configured in xfce without
building your own themes), icon aren't scaled randomly and fonts are
finally looking as they should. And third-party software like Softmaker
Office is finally working as expected. So: Will there be support for KDE
beyond Qubes 3.2 or will I have to plan for carrying a third machine for
my office work space?



Achim

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