Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
billol...@gmail.com: > > >> >> Is there actually anyone working on the hidden OS option for the >> linux? Would be very much appreciated. >> >> > > Hah. I actually did something like this by accident the first time I > installed Qubes. I had KDE neon installed, and I couldn't get it to dual > boot correctly. It turned out that the order in which I installed the OSes > made a difference. > > In any case, my laptop has two drives -- a 256G SSD and a 1 TB conventional > hard drive. I got frustrated trying to get it to work, so simply installed > one OS on the SSD and one on the hard drive, each with it's own MBR, UEFI > setup and grub. So, if you turned the machine on, it defaulted to booting > into KDE neon, and booted from the hard drive. If I wanted to boot from > Qubes, I had to frantically hit the escape key and choose to boot from the > MBR on the SSD in the BIOS/startup menu. > > I thought it was kind of cool, but decided I was wasting disk space so > deleted everything when rc2 came out and just use Qubes now -- though I > wish KDE worked better... > > billo > If you're travelling to the US, then there's /some/ good news: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/11/federal-judge-issues-historic-opinion-digital-privacy-border -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8a8dd6e6-2e95-34d6-5743-e4aaa958d79b%40disroot.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
> > Is there actually anyone working on the hidden OS option for the > linux? Would be very much appreciated. > > Hah. I actually did something like this by accident the first time I installed Qubes. I had KDE neon installed, and I couldn't get it to dual boot correctly. It turned out that the order in which I installed the OSes made a difference. In any case, my laptop has two drives -- a 256G SSD and a 1 TB conventional hard drive. I got frustrated trying to get it to work, so simply installed one OS on the SSD and one on the hard drive, each with it's own MBR, UEFI setup and grub. So, if you turned the machine on, it defaulted to booting into KDE neon, and booted from the hard drive. If I wanted to boot from Qubes, I had to frantically hit the escape key and choose to boot from the MBR on the SSD in the BIOS/startup menu. I thought it was kind of cool, but decided I was wasting disk space so deleted everything when rc2 came out and just use Qubes now -- though I wish KDE worked better... billo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8bf7d99b-ed42-4513-9602-b87e175dcb45%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
Is there actually anyone working on the hidden OS option for the linux? Would be very much appreciated. What's about this: take a harddrive, make a dd copy of your first 128 GB data on it. Encrypt it additionally (symmetric cipher), if you wish to avoid any luks or other headers. Hide it, if you wish. Now make a 100GB partition, (thereby overwriting qubes), install std linux on it, give it some plausibility data and pass the frontier. Once passed, you pull out your harddrive, and dd qubes back. Or: host your HD-content encrypted attached to your favourite raspberry @home, re-install a vanilla-debian, and pass border. Once there, install a fresh qubes form iso, fetch your data over internet and import it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/68f7efb6-622a-9908-f4f7-7907b90cd1c7%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
Carry another then, that's the safest. The easy solution (if you accept some "risks") that works as well is a micro-usb & some std linux on it, that is already booted. Give it a family picture background with sweet kids & some green :) And two or three non-sense documents that you can open. I agree with this. Also, the lack of understanding by border agents how digital devices work amazes me. What the heck are they even expecting to achieve by trying to search someone's device? Hunt for serious criminals? LOL. I always encountered idiots. But if you go the the excited states be careful. They are as idiotic s others but use powerful tools they do not understand. A single "I take this with me for a routine check" and you better are able to run some serious anti-AEM measures afterwards. If some person wanted to smuggle data (i.e. child porno) into the country, he would simply have to upload an encrypted ZIP container to a remote server, enter the country with a blank device and redownload it once inside. It's not even that difficult to do even for an average user. I will give no help to carry forbidden and unethical data, but please never use zip when security matters. So I really don't see a legitimate reason to search electronic devices at borders. Data smuggling is just too easy. The worst thing they can do someone who knows what he's doing is be an annoyance. They infect your device. You don't necessarily see it, and they don't know that they actually do it. That's their job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2bcf217a-f675-ea03-d854-649d5057082e%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
On 8. 12. 19 18:47, haaber wrote: > > I I will be doing some international travel in the upcoming months. In >> the past, I have had to turn on my laptop, and once I had to bring the >> system fully up and allow people to see my desktop -- though nobody has >> actually seized and gone through my computer as yet. Has anybody gotten >> increased scrutiny because they were running an enhanced security OS >> such as qubes when entering a country? If qubes is a "red flag," then >> I'll carry a different laptop. > > Carry another then, that's the safest. > > The easy solution (if you accept some "risks") that works as well is a > micro-usb & some std linux on it, that is already booted. Give it a > family picture background with sweet kids & some green :) And two or > three non-sense documents that you can open. > I agree with this. Also, the lack of understanding by border agents how digital devices work amazes me. What the heck are they even expecting to achieve by trying to search someone's device? Hunt for serious criminals? LOL. If some person wanted to smuggle data (i.e. child porno) into the country, he would simply have to upload an encrypted ZIP container to a remote server, enter the country with a blank device and redownload it once inside. It's not even that difficult to do even for an average user. So I really don't see a legitimate reason to search electronic devices at borders. Data smuggling is just too easy. The worst thing they can do someone who knows what he's doing is be an annoyance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5b520489-4e52-a5a4-6f2b-c4c6989f26a0%40countermail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 haaber: > I I will be doing some international travel in the upcoming months. > In >> the past, I have had to turn on my laptop, and once I had to >> bring the system fully up and allow people to see my desktop -- >> though nobody has actually seized and gone through my computer as >> yet. Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny because they were >> running an enhanced security OS such as qubes when entering a >> country? If qubes is a "red flag," then I'll carry a different >> laptop. > > Carry another then, that's the safest. > > The easy solution (if you accept some "risks") that works as well > is a micro-usb & some std linux on it, that is already booted. Give > it a family picture background with sweet kids & some green :) And > two or three non-sense documents that you can open. > > Unfortunately with linux we still don't have the hidden OS option available in Vercrypt for Windows systems, where you can one decoy and another real system on the same HDD. Till this increasingly needed feature is available, we will need to be extremely creative. Border searches are more and more common and can beat your secure position easily. Is there actually anyone working on the hidden OS option for the linux? Would be very much appreciated. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEExlmPb5HoPUTt+CQT44JZDAWK6UwFAl3ukz9fFIAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM2 NTk4RjZGOTFFODNENDRFREY4MjQxM0UzODI1OTBDMDU4QUU5NEMACgkQ44JZDAWK 6Uz4tQ//VE6qRHedi7YmYoArvTcwZMuRckF1hXZ4yYrToEM6aoXUhMYw+XFH1zkE WEGq70C54SENeYW2nfrtJdO3ab/AGjU0GfdiIrkmzKYdejJJ3TnnuhofuW+8R9NA 4ap4Qn6XJ3JqM2RsTpC4WvMwcBm4eZ5DkDEJ/+tIJzTYWtugNn3F9Yji/bkKa6rk 8Wv58Lw//0flvtXKw95hjsbMW9W6ZE4f73BIVKAFhUGW9kXAXgvWX1gCcf1B2RC+ U/GoL7nf0XMpw/kmhk/GEo2f225H85qn81HUzAVW37FDY2PhOXrU8abGXCgUkqfG rvD6xNAKQGaavJ66uOGPDEtBxoeZoulZyoUk83gDM8wy+YDG6AFaS1K6jgh2hX6v kTSj0GqUuljhPmosoMJSMtEB+l5dJdkEPCtdRgiO/0i531euEWbMZ4G5RK/0AMC7 Nr2FBdf9/FLQp7mWqWEJaga0/fJN1QuFvpV3LRW5YfZ/H6Zb4TUY04Xj6qdY4P92 +F3CbV/8Yu531kh/abjPtt8t19zbLDiNo6BQE+G1Ib9sK6kivlyyk7CNkx+3hQiA LVXIoMYv2GUQ4IpvvSo/pwF9xv7T85GaXOcNF1mVjqg7GFR+Az4Xh10whEZz4mx2 E9n33mjvJ0YYK8R9/jbFwYHzMN1i8Kmcc09FaS3HUiwl0gagmAQ= =7Hjh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/901b84f1-3d5c-bd67-6be6-e6bbc3e6bf01%40cock.li. 0xC1F4E83AF470A4ED.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: [qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
I I will be doing some international travel in the upcoming months. In the past, I have had to turn on my laptop, and once I had to bring the system fully up and allow people to see my desktop -- though nobody has actually seized and gone through my computer as yet. Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny because they were running an enhanced security OS such as qubes when entering a country? If qubes is a "red flag," then I'll carry a different laptop. Carry another then, that's the safest. The easy solution (if you accept some "risks") that works as well is a micro-usb & some std linux on it, that is already booted. Give it a family picture background with sweet kids & some green :) And two or three non-sense documents that you can open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a2880077-0186-46c7-abf7-76de6e4264b1%40web.de.
[qubes-users] Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny at an international checkpoint because of having qubes installed?
I will be doing some international travel in the upcoming months. In the past, I have had to turn on my laptop, and once I had to bring the system fully up and allow people to see my desktop -- though nobody has actually seized and gone through my computer as yet. Has anybody gotten increased scrutiny because they were running an enhanced security OS such as qubes when entering a country? If qubes is a "red flag," then I'll carry a different laptop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b8322a82-96d6-49b0-8591-bcf183ee6a9d%40googlegroups.com.