Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-10-01 Thread Unman
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:29:10AM -0700, nhe...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:39:40 AM UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > > On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > > > > > FWIW, I

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-10-01 Thread nheger
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:39:40 AM UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > > agreements are

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > On Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:31:36 UTC+10, Eric wrote: > > Most of the following removed for brevity: > > > > On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > > > Point is: You can't buy a valid

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > > >The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use >the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Good luck. Apple has not done this for ANYONE, even the big names, since

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > > > The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use > the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Good luck. Apple has not done this for ANYONE, even the big names, since

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Vít Šesták
> The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use > the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Sure. This, however, essentiually means you get a different license. Well, anything that the original license does not allow can be solved by

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Drew White
On Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:31:36 UTC+10, Eric wrote: > Most of the following removed for brevity: > > On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote: > 4) google a bunch (IIRC there is some info floating around on the QEMU > mailing list that might help). http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/ looks like Eric Shelton who provided the patches up-thread did most of the

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
Most of the following removed for brevity: On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of Mac mini just to obtain licenses... > Just like having to buy

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: [etc etc etc etc removed for brevity] > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of Mac mini just to obtain licenses... > Just like having to buy defective

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Dominik Dorn
The current VMWare Fusion v8 allows to run multiple instances of OSX. They even advertise it on their website: http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html "macOS Sierra-Ready Launch virtual machines on Macs with macOS 10.12 Sierra, or safely test the new macOS in a sandbox on your current Mac

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 06.11.2016 um 10:42 schrieb Alex: > On 11/06/2016 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rand wrote: > Actually reading the license of OSX available at > https://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/MacOSX.htm is very easy > because they are awfully short and simple, compared to a lot of other > software. > > And in

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-30 Thread Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)
On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > agreements are anti-competitive and therefore unenforceable. > However, > I am unaware of any specific

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Eric Shelton
On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 12:54:11 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-10-29 09:19, Dominik Dorn wrote: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > > > > Hmm.. just noticed that it does not say "we support os x"... still a little > >

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-29 09:19, Dominik Dorn wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] > > > Hmm.. just noticed that it does not say "we support os x"... still a little > misleading.. > Oh, that's just Google giving you a preview of our "What is Qubes OS?"

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-29 07:52, domi...@dominikdorn.com wrote: > Hi.. just chiming in... > > I came here because of all the hype that's going on about Cubes-OS at the > moment, mainly because of the Snowden movie. I liked what I've seen in the > video tour.

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-17 Thread niels
> On June 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM Achim Patzner wrote: > > > Am 17.06.2016 um 06:11 schrieb Drew White: > > Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement or > > anything for me wanting to run it. > > You didn't read the license very well, then. Depending on the

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-17 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 17.06.2016 um 06:11 schrieb Drew White: Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement or anything for me wanting to run it. You didn't read the license very well, then. Depending on the version of Mac OS X you bought as part of your machine there are several restrictions

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-16 Thread Drew White
On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > agreements are anti-competitive and therefore unenforceable. However, > I am unaware of any specific precedent for this argument, so it would > indeed probably be