Re: [qubes-users] Re: "Qubes Architecture Next Steps: The GUI Domain" by Marek Marczykowski-G??recki & Marta Marczykowska-G??recka

2020-04-11 Thread Foppe de Haan


On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:01:46 PM UTC, unman wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:03:42AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:01:05 AM UTC, Sven Semmler wrote: 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 02:54:01AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote: 
> > > > I may prefer my meagerly hardware accelerated KDE 5.17/18 in dom0 
> until 
> > > > it's clear under which circumstances GPU virtualization works 
> properly. 
> > > 
> > > Forgive me from taking this off-topic from the original thread. I have 
> > > tried and failed to make KDE work in dom0. 
> > > 
> > > sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop-qubes 
> > > 
> > > While I can login to KDE, there are clearly issues. The Launcher 
> freezes 
> > > frequently and search doesn't work. There are weired delays all over 
> the 
> > > place (GUI reacts much later or not at all). 
> > > 
> > > I have no such issues with XFCE or i3. Have you done anything beyond 
> the 
> > > above command to get KDE running well on your machine? 
> > > 
> > > /Sven 
> > > 
> > > 
> > I'm running Qubes 4.1. My experience with the KDE version (and display 
> > stack) included with Qubes 4.0 /fedora 25 wasn't that great either. :) 
> > 
>
> Interesting. My experience is the opposite. I run KDE in 4.0, and find 
> it greatly enhances the Qubes experience. 
> Menus are easily customisable, it's simple to force separation of qubes 
> in different domains on to separate Activities, ease of creating custom 
> launcher shortcuts, etc etc. Far better than Xfce for Qubes, and in my 
> experience it just works. And this is on x220 and x230 machines of 
> relatively low spec. 
> If you want to open a separate topic, perhaps we could troubleshoot your 
> problems? 
>
>
is this in response to sven? I quite like KDE 5.17 in Q4.1, for the reasons 
you mention. :) 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: "Qubes Architecture Next Steps: The GUI Domain" by Marek Marczykowski-G??recki & Marta Marczykowska-G??recka

2020-04-11 Thread unman
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:03:42AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> 
> 
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:01:05 AM UTC, Sven Semmler wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 02:54:01AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote: 
> > > I may prefer my meagerly hardware accelerated KDE 5.17/18 in dom0 until 
> > > it's clear under which circumstances GPU virtualization works properly. 
> >
> > Forgive me from taking this off-topic from the original thread. I have 
> > tried and failed to make KDE work in dom0. 
> >
> > sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop-qubes 
> >
> > While I can login to KDE, there are clearly issues. The Launcher freezes 
> > frequently and search doesn't work. There are weired delays all over the 
> > place (GUI reacts much later or not at all). 
> >
> > I have no such issues with XFCE or i3. Have you done anything beyond the 
> > above command to get KDE running well on your machine? 
> >
> > /Sven 
> >
> >
> I'm running Qubes 4.1. My experience with the KDE version (and display 
> stack) included with Qubes 4.0 /fedora 25 wasn't that great either. :) 
> 

Interesting. My experience is the opposite. I run KDE in 4.0, and find
it greatly enhances the Qubes experience.
Menus are easily customisable, it's simple to force separation of qubes
in different domains on to separate Activities, ease of creating custom
launcher shortcuts, etc etc. Far better than Xfce for Qubes, and in my
experience it just works. And this is on x220 and x230 machines of
relatively low spec.
If you want to open a separate topic, perhaps we could troubleshoot your
problems?

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