Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Update] Re: Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-31 Thread 0brand



Franz:
> Today I tried to updated the Whonix-ws template, but got an error about
> being  unable to download some asc file. Then trying to update it again, it
> founds nothing to update and there is no network connection even if I
> connect it to default NON tor firewall.

Could you please post the error that you are referring to.

Qubes 4.0 templateVMs are non-network connected by default and instead
use qubes-updates-proxy to update software.

If you were to connect Whonix-ws-14 to a clearnet connected VM you would
have no network connection in the template.
> 
> If I ping google I get "operation not permitted"

ping does not work over Tor.
> 
> Is that related to this thread?

Not unless you configured your template(s) to use Qubes .onion repositories.



> Best
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 12:12 PM  wrote:
> 
>> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 7:44:31 PM UTC-7, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 24/03/2019 7.30 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> Dear Qubes Community,
>
> We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no longer
> be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all Qubes onion
> services, including the Qubes website onion mirror and the onion
>>> package
> repos.
>
> We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously maintaining
> these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the Tor onion services
> requires labor, servers, and bandwidth. Unfortunately, none of these
> resources are available to the Qubes OS or Whonix projects in
>>> sufficient
> quantities to allow us to continue offering these services.
>
> We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion addresses
> transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses immediately.
>
>
> [1]
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/23/qubes-whonix-next-gen-tor-onion-services/
>
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
>
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/03/24/tor-onion-services-no-longer-maintained/
>
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Thank you all for your support. Unman has generously agreed to bring the
> Qubes Tor onion services back and maintain them. He has considerable
> experience in hosting and infrastructure management, including running
> onion services. He is working on it now. We'll have another update for
> you soon.
> 
> Thank you, unman!
> 
>>
>> Thank you, Unman for taking this on.  I still think the larger issue is
>> that the qubes and whonix teams are severely resource strapped.  It is
>> truly a David and Goliath situation between them and the Wintel money
>> machine.  We need to give these guys all the financial support we can.
>>
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Update] Re: Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-31 Thread Franz
Today I tried to updated the Whonix-ws template, but got an error about
being  unable to download some asc file. Then trying to update it again, it
founds nothing to update and there is no network connection even if I
connect it to default NON tor firewall.

If I ping google I get "operation not permitted"

Is that related to this thread?
Best

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 12:12 PM  wrote:

> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 7:44:31 PM UTC-7, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA512
> >
> > On 24/03/2019 7.30 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > > Dear Qubes Community,
> > >
> > > We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no longer
> > > be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all Qubes onion
> > > services, including the Qubes website onion mirror and the onion
> package
> > > repos.
> > >
> > > We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously maintaining
> > > these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the Tor onion services
> > > requires labor, servers, and bandwidth. Unfortunately, none of these
> > > resources are available to the Qubes OS or Whonix projects in
> sufficient
> > > quantities to allow us to continue offering these services.
> > >
> > > We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion addresses
> > > transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses immediately.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/23/qubes-whonix-next-gen-tor-onion-services/
> > >
> > > This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> > >
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/03/24/tor-onion-services-no-longer-maintained/
> > >
> >
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> >
> > Thank you all for your support. Unman has generously agreed to bring the
> > Qubes Tor onion services back and maintain them. He has considerable
> > experience in hosting and infrastructure management, including running
> > onion services. He is working on it now. We'll have another update for
> > you soon.
> >
> > Thank you, unman!
> >
> > - --
> > Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> > Community Manager, Qubes OS
> > https://www.qubes-os.org
> >
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> Thank you, Unman for taking this on.  I still think the larger issue is
> that the qubes and whonix teams are severely resource strapped.  It is
> truly a David and Goliath situation between them and the Wintel money
> machine.  We need to give these guys all the financial support we can.
>
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[qubes-users] Re: [Update] Re: Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-31 Thread jrsmiley
On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 7:44:31 PM UTC-7, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> On 24/03/2019 7.30 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> > 
> > We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no longer
> > be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all Qubes onion
> > services, including the Qubes website onion mirror and the onion package
> > repos.
> > 
> > We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously maintaining
> > these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the Tor onion services
> > requires labor, servers, and bandwidth. Unfortunately, none of these
> > resources are available to the Qubes OS or Whonix projects in sufficient
> > quantities to allow us to continue offering these services.
> > 
> > We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion addresses
> > transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses immediately.
> > 
> > 
> > [1] 
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/23/qubes-whonix-next-gen-tor-onion-services/
> > 
> > This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/03/24/tor-onion-services-no-longer-maintained/
> > 
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Thank you all for your support. Unman has generously agreed to bring the
> Qubes Tor onion services back and maintain them. He has considerable
> experience in hosting and infrastructure management, including running
> onion services. He is working on it now. We'll have another update for
> you soon.
> 
> Thank you, unman!
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> 
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Thank you, Unman for taking this on.  I still think the larger issue is that 
the qubes and whonix teams are severely resource strapped.  It is truly a David 
and Goliath situation between them and the Wintel money machine.  We need to 
give these guys all the financial support we can.

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