[qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] AEM: Should we drop .png support?

2017-06-18 Thread Rusty Bird
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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki:
> I think PNG support is a nice half-measure against shoulder surfing -
> details on the image are harder to copy/remember (or even photograph
> with a small camera), than some text.

You're right, it is better. I hadn't considered that the user can
manually clear the image from screen as soon as they've recognized it,
simply by pressing Esc to switch to text mode.

> When we get some better alternative, we can drop PNG.

Sounds good.

Rusty
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[qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] AEM: Should we drop .png support?

2017-06-18 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 01:47:25PM +, Rusty Bird wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> What do you think about getting rid [1] of .png image secret support in
> the next major version of Anti Evil Maid? This would offset some of the
> increase in complexity incurred by the upcoming TOTP/keyfile support, in
> addition to other benefits:
> 
> - Considering that AEM is a security oriented feature, it's kind of bad
>   to implicitly encourage the user to copy a complex image format from
>   some VM to dom0 - where it will be parsed during boot. (It would be
>   possible to build something [2] secure using the qubes.GetImageRGBA
>   RPC service, but I don't know if anyone's particularly interested in
>   working on that.)
> 
> - .png support is hacky and weird: We show text secrets in the current
>   dialog, but images appear in the *next* dialog. And text secrets are
>   cleared from the screen as soon as possible, whereas image secrets
>   stay visible until Plymouth finishes.
> 
> For users who prefer the more visual approach, we could tweak the
> Plymouth theme to use a monospace font for text secrets. That should
> make ASCII art a viable replacement for conventional images.

I think PNG support is a nice half-measure against shoulder surfing -
details on the image are harder to copy/remember (or even photograph
with a small camera), than some text. When we get some better
alternative, we can drop PNG.

> 1. 
> https://github.com/rustybird/qubes-antievilmaid/commit/4e45af289d0e651a380f3182cb07901a3002905f
> 
> 2. Similar to the WIP dom0 wallpaper service:
>https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/215
> 

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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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