Re: [qubes-users] Re: Best Desktop for Qubes

2017-07-08 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
2017-07-08 21:55 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Łukasiak :

> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Grzesiek Chodzicki
>  wrote:
> > Highly depends on the use case and budget. SO, a few questions first:
> >  - Does it have to be prebuilt or do You want to build it yourself?
>
> Yeah - most the advices I get are about building my own. Looks like
> I'll end up doing that - even though I have not built my own system
> for something like 15 years and I would prefer to buy a ready made
> system.
>
>
> >  - Do you plan on using it for GPU-intensive tasks?
>
> No.
>
> >  - How much do you care about the looks/size/portability of your machine?
>
> A little.
>
> >  - DO you already own some PC components?
>
>
> >  - What's your budget?
>
> It is high enough to buy any high end workstation.
>
> Z.
>
Personally, I wouldn't risk X299 or Ryzen platforms. You can safely go with
Intel X99 and it should work out of the box. The question is, how beefy
does the workstation need to be? On X99 you can go as high as 128GB of ECC
RAM and up to 18 core Xeon.
Aside: please keep the qubes-users group cc'ed.

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[qubes-users] Re: Best Desktop for Qubes

2017-07-07 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu niedziela, 2 lipca 2017 19:28:26 UTC+2 użytkownik Zbigniew Łukasiak 
napisał:
> A companion to the Best Laptop for Qubes thread :)
> 
> Most of the HCL is filled with laptops - very few desktops are there,
> especially on the high end.
> 
> Currently I have a Dell Inspiron - works but 16GB RAM is max there
> (and it is a non-ECC so most probably more than that does not make
> much sense), and 16BG is not enough for me (browsers seem to eat
> unbelievable amounts of RAM).
> 
> Is there a recommended desktop system for Qubes with over 16GB RAM?
> 
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> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/

Highly depends on the use case and budget. SO, a few questions first:
 - Does it have to be prebuilt or do You want to build it yourself?
 - Do you plan on using it for GPU-intensive tasks?
 - How much do you care about the looks/size/portability of your machine?
 - DO you already own some PC components?
 - What's your budget?

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[qubes-users] Re: Best Desktop for Qubes

2017-07-06 Thread thomaszelch
I can recommend the HP Z240, i have the SFF Version with i7-6700 and 64GB Ram.
I bought the workstation from the HP Outlet Store with only 4gb of ram, but a 
1TB NVME SSD and got the Ram seperately. Everything cost me around 1100$ a few 
months back, i think the RAM prices went up a bit since then.

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[qubes-users] Re: Best Desktop for Qubes

2017-07-05 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 1:28:26 PM UTC-4, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote:
> A companion to the Best Laptop for Qubes thread :)
> 
> Most of the HCL is filled with laptops - very few desktops are there,
> especially on the high end.
> 
> Currently I have a Dell Inspiron - works but 16GB RAM is max there
> (and it is a non-ECC so most probably more than that does not make
> much sense), and 16BG is not enough for me (browsers seem to eat
> unbelievable amounts of RAM).
> 
> Is there a recommended desktop system for Qubes with over 16GB RAM?
> 
> -- 
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/

main thing when buying a board is you want the iommu support to be compatible 
with qubes.  There really is no way to tell besides HCL list to be 100% sure.

Other then that the best way is to look in the manual for picture of the bios 
settings showing the vt-d feature as available with supported intel cpu, (not 
greyed otu or unavailable) or even better if its shown enabled.

You also might want to make sure the bios support legacy boot and board has a 
ps/2 kb port.

another thing I would highly recommend is before buying the board search it on 
linux forums and see if people have any compatibly problems with it or not.

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[qubes-users] Re: Best Desktop for Qubes

2017-07-04 Thread qubester

On 07/02/2017 07:28 AM, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote:

A companion to the Best Laptop for Qubes thread :)

Most of the HCL is filled with laptops - very few desktops are there,
especially on the high end.

Currently I have a Dell Inspiron - works but 16GB RAM is max there
(and it is a non-ECC so most probably more than that does not make
much sense), and 16BG is not enough for me (browsers seem to eat
unbelievable amounts of RAM).

Is there a recommended desktop system for Qubes with over 16GB RAM?

in real life there is no 'best'  , it a series of choices, on what is 
important to you.  so, what is ?


afaik, if your not fussy about the intel ME thing, then any recent cpu 
will have the virtualization stuff for 4.0


if you can find a PS2 motherboard for said cpu  , then you will need to 
have less headaches with any USB-VM  "security"  , depending on your 
"adversary profile" as they say


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