Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fullscreen Multiple Monitors not possible?

2021-03-07 Thread Vít Šesták 'v6ak'
Well, in order to use the back from my first post, don't use the actual
fullscreen.

Regards,
Vít Šesták 'v6ak'

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fullscreen Multiple Monitors not possible?

2021-03-07 Thread Vít Šesták 'v6ak'
I have forgotten to send the mail to qubes-users…

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 08:43 Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk  wrote:

> Dear Vít Šesták,
>
>
>
> Thank you very much! Indeed, fullscreen is possible with and without the
> allow_fullscreen setting. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way out of
> the problem that this does work only in a single monitor mode (literally
> full monitor instead of full screen).
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael Schefczyk
>
>
>
> *Von:* Vít Šesták <>
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 7. März 2021 08:38
> *An:* Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk
>
> *Betreff:* Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fullscreen Multiple Monitors not
> possible?
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> Taskbar: that's why I wrote this:
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> > If needed, make the window always-on-top by Alt+Space and selecting
> Always on Top.
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>
> BTW, you can enter fullscreen in a similar way, even without
> allow_fullscreen. And you can probably configure shortcuts…
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vít Šesták 'v6ak'
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Fullscreen Multiple Monitors not possible?

2021-03-06 Thread 'mic...@schefczyk.net' via qubes-users
Thank you very much! The idea does make maximum sense, I think. However, 
without turning on full screen, there is the problem that the window - 
indeed created large enough to cover the full screen - will be truncated by 
the frame decorations. That brings issues particularly with the task bar. 
Once one clicks full screen, the screen gets limited to one monitor (-> 
"full monitor"). As far as I understand, one has the following instruments 
available in Qubes and freerdp:
- allow_fullscreen and override_redirect_protection in guid.conf in dom0
- the trapezoid slider "floatbar" created by xfreerdp 
/floatbar:sticky:off,show:always
As far as I can tell, no combination of these instruments can resolve the 
issue. In Debian, the floatbar does allow maximizing the window across 
multiple monitors, but not in Qubes.

I nice solution might have been to accept the windows decoration and create 
the window slightly smaller (less height would be enough, because the top 
decoration is the main issue. That, however, does not seem to work because 
of freerdp: You need to set "xrfreerdp /multimon" but then you are unable 
to reduce the height. You can set a large screen, but without multimon, it 
does not extend accross monitors. This seems to be an endless cycle.

It would be good to know, if developers intend to change this behavior or 
not. I can accept the security concept of not welcoming fullscreen too 
much. However, when this is fully possible with one monitor but not 
possible with two monitors, that does not seem fully consistent - either or 
would make sense, but the number of monitors should not be the decisive 
factor from a concept standpoint.

Vít Šesták schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 22:12:00 UTC+1:

> I guess that the xfreerdp just creates a window that is large enough and 
> positioned in a way that hides the window borders. However, Qubes OS AFAIK 
> does not allow the positioning for security reasons. However, you can do 
> this yourself. It depends on your desktop environment and configuration, 
> there is rough howto for Xfce:
>
> * Adjust the window position by alt+left-click and movement.
> * Adjust the window size by alt+right-click and movement.
> * If needed, make the window always-on-top by Alt+Space and selecting 
> Always on Top.
>
> I am pretty sure this can be automated by xdotool or something similar.
>
> Regards,
> Vit Sestak 'v6ak'
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:04:32 AM UTC+1 mic...@schefczyk.net wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> In QubesOS R4.0, I have two monitors connected to form a large screen 
>> made up by two monitors side by side. I would like to achieve what does 
>> work in Debian, for example, that is a fullscreen window covering the 
>> entire screen (i. e., both monitors). This is particularly useful in 
>> rdp-seccions using freerdp. It can be achieved using:
>>
>> xfreerdp /multimon
>>
>> This leads to a freerdp connection across multiple monitors at leaset in 
>> Debian GNOME.
>>
>> In QubesOS R4.0 it does work in principle. A window as wide as the set of 
>> monitors does get created. However, the fullscreen feature does not work. 
>> As soon as one clicks fullscreen, the window gets confined to one of the 
>> monitors. Of course, I did allow fullscreen as described here: 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/full-screen-mode/ And of corse, everything 
>> does work well with just one monitor connected. And yes, I do understand 
>> the security concept of normally not covering the entire screen but showng 
>> the window decorations including the VM color.
>>
>> Is there a way to overcome that limitation? If "fullscreen" can be made 
>> to work across physical monitors in general, xfreerdp /multimon should work 
>> as well.
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Michael Schefczyk
>>
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Fullscreen Multiple Monitors not possible?

2021-03-06 Thread Vít Šesták
I guess that the xfreerdp just creates a window that is large enough and 
positioned in a way that hides the window borders. However, Qubes OS AFAIK 
does not allow the positioning for security reasons. However, you can do 
this yourself. It depends on your desktop environment and configuration, 
there is rough howto for Xfce:

* Adjust the window position by alt+left-click and movement.
* Adjust the window size by alt+right-click and movement.
* If needed, make the window always-on-top by Alt+Space and selecting 
Always on Top.

I am pretty sure this can be automated by xdotool or something similar.

Regards,
Vit Sestak 'v6ak'

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:04:32 AM UTC+1 mic...@schefczyk.net wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> In QubesOS R4.0, I have two monitors connected to form a large screen made 
> up by two monitors side by side. I would like to achieve what does work in 
> Debian, for example, that is a fullscreen window covering the entire screen 
> (i. e., both monitors). This is particularly useful in rdp-seccions using 
> freerdp. It can be achieved using:
>
> xfreerdp /multimon
>
> This leads to a freerdp connection across multiple monitors at leaset in 
> Debian GNOME.
>
> In QubesOS R4.0 it does work in principle. A window as wide as the set of 
> monitors does get created. However, the fullscreen feature does not work. 
> As soon as one clicks fullscreen, the window gets confined to one of the 
> monitors. Of course, I did allow fullscreen as described here: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/full-screen-mode/ And of corse, everything 
> does work well with just one monitor connected. And yes, I do understand 
> the security concept of normally not covering the entire screen but showng 
> the window decorations including the VM color.
>
> Is there a way to overcome that limitation? If "fullscreen" can be made to 
> work across physical monitors in general, xfreerdp /multimon should work as 
> well.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Michael Schefczyk
>

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