Re: [qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes
On 09/25/2017 02:37 PM, Yethal wrote: If you’re not familiar with this laptop, some of the points in its favour are: 1. Free software ethos: comes with core boot and the hardware is user replaceable to an extent very unusual for a laptop 2. Security-minded: ME disabled, open-source bios and has hardware disable switches for mic&camera and wifi&bluetooth Not true, purism isn't any different than an off the shelf laptop when it comes to freedom - their BIOS isn't open source and ME isn't actually disabled simply de-activated as anyone can do with me-cleaner (which they didn't create mind you). It is simply an overpriced quanta re-brand. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/ Their version of coreboot is simply a wrapper layer, all the hardware init is performed by intel's binary blobs and while some say "oh they are doing their best" that isn't true as there are a variety of other companies that somehow make actual libre hardware such as raptor, and a variety of companies that provide libre firmware hardware (vikings, minifree etc) reselling the KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 boards and the variety of intel thinkpad laptops created before mandatory ME. Purism could have easily created an actually libre firmware device by using AMD's 2013 pre-PSP FT3 hardware (ex: lenovo G505S) which would have equivalent performance to intel's ivy bridge, but they didn't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b75d0817-0cd1-292f-d48c-edd506209c8b%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes
On 09/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sean Hunter wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:37:23AM -0700, Yethal wrote: >> W dniu poniedziałek, 25 września 2017 13:34:13 UTC+2 użytkownik Sean Hunter >> napisał: >> >> How's the keyboard? > So I'm bit of a keyboard nerd (I have a couple of Planck ortholinear > keyboards from olkb.com) so I use an external keyboard where I can, but > it's surprisingly pleasant for a laptop. I rate it higher than my macs > (old version mbp and my new macbook with the 'flat' keyboard switches) > and the hp and lenovo laptops from work have. > > No laptop is ever going to be as good as a proper mechanical keyboard > though. > > Sean Is it as good as the thinkpad island keyboard? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b1392fe5-8f69-d0c6-c017-648b99e549bf%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:40 PM Sean wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:54:54PM -0700, pixel fairy wrote: > > is suspend and resume reliable? > > Kinda, although some further debugging etc is needed like the hibernate > problem. > > So closing the laptop suspends (so far so good) and opening resumes. > However if you spend too long in suspend it seems it reboots when you > open (at the moment). > > Probably fixable, haven't tried yet. > > "Too long" needs some further experimentation but empirically a bath is > definitely too long. > > Sean thanks, you saved me the cost of one. my lemur7(system76) has the same behavior. For now i just set it to lock the screen instead of suspend when the lids closed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8d740e3c-9fbd-4dc2-8025-ca083ffa9fb5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes
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[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes
W dniu poniedziałek, 25 września 2017 13:34:13 UTC+2 użytkownik Sean Hunter napisał: > I want to start by saying I really like this laptop so far and it works great > for me in qubes 4.0. I’m a (very) long term linux user but new to qubes. For > the last 5 years I have used a macBook pro as my primary computer for > personal and work, and am using this to replace that first for personal stuff > and dev projects and then hopefully soon for my main work also. I also didn’t > ever boot pureOs (their debian spin) so can’t comment on what that’s like. > > > > > So a 15” mbp is my point of comparison and these are relatively minor issues > which don’t stop me from using the laptop for everything I need (so far): > > they added a numpad (that I don’t use) so you’re not centered > on the screen when you type and there are extra keys to the right of the > arrows. Annoying to me but many people wouldn’t notice or might even like the > numpad > It won’t boot qubes R3.2 for some reason so I have to run R4.0. > That’s fine for me although it means a somewhat rougher user experience as > it’s not super polished yet > The keys for screen brightness, volume etc are hooked up using > dark magic that doesn’t work in i3wm for some reason. On xfce they work just > fine. At some point I’ll try to figure it out and if you don’t use i3 you may > not care > I haven’t got the acpi (or whatever it’s called now) settings > quite right yet so it doesn’t shut down properly - It shuts everything down > but leaves the screen backlight on, then I have to manually press and hold > the power button for it to actually shut down. Likewise I can hibernate it, > but it doesn’t come back from hibernation. Again, there’s probably a fix > I’m not crazy about the touchpad. It’s resonsive enough but the > friction on the surface is a little high. I guess macs have pampered me and > I’ve become soft. > It won’t drive my super-wide external monitor at full > resolution so I am restricted to a “mere” 1900xsomething. > > > > > > If you’re not familiar with this laptop, some of the points in its favour are: > 1. Free software ethos: comes with core boot and the hardware is user > replaceable to an extent very unusual for a laptop > 2. Security-minded: ME disabled, open-source bios and has hardware disable > switches for mic&camera and wifi&bluetooth > > > Let me know if you have specific questions and I’ll try to address > > > Sean > > Sent from my phone. Sorry if brief. How's the keyboard? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ca0ad3c5-d6aa-48a4-8f5b-75b4daf3c654%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.