Re: [qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes

2017-09-26 Thread taii...@gmx.com

On 09/25/2017 02:37 PM, Yethal wrote:

If you’re not familiar with this laptop, some of the points in its favour are:
1. Free software ethos: comes with core boot and the hardware is user 
replaceable to an extent very unusual for a laptop
2. Security-minded: ME disabled, open-source bios and has hardware disable switches for 
mic&camera and wifi&bluetooth
Not true, purism isn't any different than an off the shelf laptop when 
it comes to freedom - their BIOS isn't open source and ME isn't actually 
disabled simply de-activated as anyone can do with me-cleaner (which 
they didn't create mind you).

It is simply an overpriced quanta re-brand.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/

Their version of coreboot is simply a wrapper layer, all the hardware 
init is performed by intel's binary blobs and while some say "oh they 
are doing their best" that isn't true as there are a variety of other 
companies that somehow make actual libre hardware such as raptor, and a 
variety of companies that provide libre firmware hardware (vikings, 
minifree etc) reselling the KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 boards and the variety of 
intel thinkpad laptops created before mandatory ME.


Purism could have easily created an actually libre firmware device by 
using AMD's 2013 pre-PSP FT3 hardware (ex: lenovo G505S) which would 
have equivalent performance to intel's ivy bridge, but they didn't.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes

2017-09-25 Thread Grzegorz Chodzicki


On 09/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sean Hunter wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:37:23AM -0700, Yethal wrote:
>> W dniu poniedziałek, 25 września 2017 13:34:13 UTC+2 użytkownik Sean Hunter 
>> napisał:
>>
>> How's the keyboard?
> So I'm  bit of a keyboard nerd (I have a couple of Planck ortholinear
> keyboards from olkb.com) so I use an external keyboard where I can, but
> it's surprisingly pleasant for a laptop.  I rate it higher than my macs
> (old version mbp and my new macbook with the 'flat' keyboard switches)
> and the hp and lenovo laptops from work have.
>
> No laptop is ever going to be as good as a proper mechanical keyboard
> though.
>
> Sean
Is it as good as the thinkpad island keyboard?

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[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes

2017-09-25 Thread pixel fairy
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:40 PM Sean wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:54:54PM -0700, pixel fairy wrote:
> > is suspend and resume reliable?
>
> Kinda, although some further debugging etc is needed like the hibernate
> problem.
>
> So closing the laptop suspends (so far so good) and opening resumes.
> However if you spend too long in suspend it seems it reboots when you
> open (at the moment).
>
> Probably fixable, haven't tried yet.
>
> "Too long" needs some further experimentation but empirically a bath is
> definitely too long.
>
> Sean

thanks, you saved me the cost of one. my lemur7(system76) has the same 
behavior. For now i just set it to lock the screen instead of suspend when the 
lids closed. 

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[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes

2017-09-25 Thread pixel fairy
is suspend and resume reliable?

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[qubes-users] Re: Impressions of the Purism Librem 15v3 for Qubes

2017-09-25 Thread Yethal
W dniu poniedziałek, 25 września 2017 13:34:13 UTC+2 użytkownik Sean Hunter 
napisał:
> I want to start by saying I really like this laptop so far and it works great 
> for me in qubes 4.0. I’m a (very) long term linux user but new to qubes. For 
> the last 5 years I have used a macBook pro as my primary computer for 
> personal and work, and am using this to replace that first for personal stuff 
> and dev projects and then hopefully soon for my main work also. I also didn’t 
> ever boot pureOs (their debian spin) so can’t comment on what that’s like. 
>   
> 
> 
>   
> So a 15” mbp is my point of comparison and these are relatively minor issues 
> which don’t stop me from using the laptop for everything I need (so far):
>   
>   they added a numpad (that I don’t use) so you’re not centered 
> on the screen when you type and there are extra keys to the right of the 
> arrows. Annoying to me but many people wouldn’t notice or might even like the 
> numpad
>   It won’t boot qubes R3.2 for some reason so I have to run R4.0. 
> That’s fine for me although it means a somewhat rougher user experience as 
> it’s not super polished yet
>   The keys for screen brightness, volume etc are hooked up using 
> dark magic that doesn’t work in i3wm for some reason. On xfce they work just 
> fine. At some point I’ll try to figure it out and if you don’t use i3 you may 
> not care
>    I haven’t got the acpi (or whatever it’s called now) settings 
> quite right yet so it doesn’t shut down properly - It shuts everything down 
> but leaves the screen backlight on, then I have to manually press and hold 
> the power button for it to actually shut down. Likewise I can hibernate it, 
> but it doesn’t come back from hibernation. Again, there’s probably a fix
>   I’m not crazy about the touchpad. It’s resonsive enough but the 
> friction on the surface is a little high.  I guess macs have pampered me and 
> I’ve become soft. 
>   It won’t drive my super-wide external monitor at full 
> resolution so I am restricted to a “mere” 1900xsomething. 
>   
>   
> 
> 
>   
> If you’re not familiar with this laptop, some of the points in its favour are:
> 1. Free software ethos: comes with core boot and the hardware is user 
> replaceable to an extent very unusual for a laptop
> 2. Security-minded: ME disabled, open-source bios and has hardware disable 
> switches for mic&camera and wifi&bluetooth
> 
> 
> Let me know if you have specific questions and I’ll try to address
> 
> 
> Sean
> 
> Sent from my phone. Sorry if brief. 

How's the keyboard?

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