Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-16 Thread Pedro Martins
On 14-11-2016 20:07, Eric wrote: On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: Eric: On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: ... Well, the Dell XPS was enough processing power for me. The Business version, the Precision 5510, not only has

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-15 Thread taii...@gmx.com
So you know AFIAK OPOWER8+ systems have a emulation layer for x86 that works quite well, on the TALOS page you can see them playing a modern 3d game with it via pass thru video although obvious you wouldn't want to emulate a VMM. Xen isn't the be all-end all of virtualization, there are many

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread 3n7r0py1
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:55:09 PM UTC, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/14/2016 04:50 PM, entr0py wrote: > > > taii...@gmx.com: > >> On 11/14/2016 03:12 PM, Eric wrote: > >>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: > Eric: > > On Sunday, November 13, 2016

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/14/2016 04:50 PM, entr0py wrote: taii...@gmx.com: On 11/14/2016 03:12 PM, Eric wrote: On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: Eric: On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread entr0py
entr0py: > taii...@gmx.com: >> On 11/14/2016 03:12 PM, Eric wrote: >>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: Eric: > On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, > tai...@gmx.com wrote: >> Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread entr0py
taii...@gmx.com: > On 11/14/2016 03:12 PM, Eric wrote: >> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: >>> Eric: On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem > whitebox

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread Eric
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 1:02:14 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > Why would you buy a macbook? You realize those have regular intel > processors and ME too right? > > Lenovo is owned by the chinese, and dell business laptop (their consumer > line is garbage) is a way better choice than

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread Eric
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: > Eric: > > On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com > > wrote: > >> Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem whitebox > >> laptop, it takes 5mil+ of startup funds to do a small run of *just >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread Eric
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: > Eric: > > On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com > > wrote: > >> Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem whitebox > >> laptop, it takes 5mil+ of startup funds to do a small run of *just >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-14 Thread entr0py
Eric: > On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com > wrote: >> Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem whitebox >> laptop, it takes 5mil+ of startup funds to do a small run of *just >> a motherboard* let alone an entire laptop computer including the >> fab for

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread Eric
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 10:44:33 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > Forgot to say: > Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem whitebox laptop, it takes 5mil+ > of startup funds to do a small run of *just a motherboard* let alone an > entire laptop computer including the fab for a fancy

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Forgot to say: Purism is just an overpriced quanta/oem whitebox laptop, it takes 5mil+ of startup funds to do a small run of *just a motherboard* let alone an entire laptop computer including the fab for a fancy aluminum case - it is quite obvious that their components are not "hand selected"

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I am assuming you were one of those people who bought a computer from those purism scammers. https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/02/23/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same-as-libre/ It is impossible to disable (ie, like it was never there, 100% gone) ME on any intel system post

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Eric wrote: > though Intel ME is apparently disabled, which is a win, I guess? You can not "disable" ME. See page 37 of https://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread Chris Laprise
On 11/13/2016 08:36 PM, Eric wrote: On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 5:01:59 PM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: Eric: Just bought a laptop with a Skylake processor for running Qubes, and from looking around on Intel's website it appears that no Skylake Core-branded processors support Intel TXT. Any

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread Eric
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 5:01:59 PM UTC-8, entr0py wrote: > Eric: > > Just bought a laptop with a Skylake processor for running Qubes, and from > > looking around on Intel's website it appears that no Skylake Core-branded > > processors support Intel TXT. Any point in running

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread entr0py
Eric: > On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 1:54:30 AM UTC-8, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:11:55AM +, Rusty Bird wrote: >>> marmarek: On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 08:52:43PM +, Rusty Bird wrote:

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Intel TXT advice

2016-11-13 Thread Eric
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 1:54:30 AM UTC-8, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:11:55AM +, Rusty Bird wrote: > > marmarek: > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 08:52:43PM +, Rusty Bird wrote: > > >> Though