Re: [qubes-users] Re: Setting up firewall for mail and seeing traffic for individual appvms?

2017-09-18 Thread Stumpy



On 18.09.2017 01:45, Unman wrote:

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Stumpy wrote:



On 17.09.2017 23:41, Frosty wrote:
> Hi Stumpy,
>
> Are you using sys-whonix to enter the internet? If yes you probably
> have to open port 9000 on the firewall, because tor traffic goes
> trough port 9000
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On 09/17/2017 11:36 PM, Stumpy wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 17.09.2017 23:34, Stumpy wrote:
> > > One of the many things on my checklist is to setup some of my appvms
> > > with proper fw rules. I thought I'd start with gmail that I use
> > > with a
> > > mail client. I thought it would just be:
> > > smtp.gmail.com
> > > imap.gmail.com
> > > and set it for smtp and imap services using tcp protocol.
> > > Afaik those are the two servers that the client connects to, its what
> > > I have set in my client but it seems I haven't set something right
> > > because the client can't send/recive anything.
> > >
> > > So two questions:
> > > 1) Is there something I am missing with the above settings and
> > > 2) Is there a way I can see the incomming/outgoing traffic for this
> > > one appvm? (which I am guessing would help give me a better idea of
> > > what servers/addresses I need to add to my firewall).
> >
> > duh. I forgot to also mention that I do have the "deny network
> > access except" raido button chked
> >


Hi Frosty,

Thx 4 that.

in This case I am not using whonix but I did plan on setting up some 
of my

whnx appvms/firewalls later so that might come in handy.
Regarding ports, is there a GUI way to add ports, ie vm manager -> 
firewall

dialog box, or does that require editing ip tables?

Cheers


Hi Stumpy

One problem that you face is that those names map to a number of
different IP addresses.
When you use a name in the firewall editor it is resolved when you set
up the rule to 1 IP address. You should therefore make a note of the IP
addresses and use them in the editor.

The entries you make here are reflected in the FORWARD chain of the
proxy upstream. You can inspect these by opening a terminal in that 
qube

(e.g sys-firewall) and using 'iptables -L -nv' - look in the FORWARD
chain and you sill see entries for the mail qube. You should also be
able to see the counters incrementing when you try to make a 
connection.


unman


Hey Unman,
Thx for the detailed explaination/howto. I will def give those a try!
Cheers

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Setting up firewall for mail and seeing traffic for individual appvms?

2017-09-17 Thread Unman
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Stumpy wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17.09.2017 23:41, Frosty wrote:
> > Hi Stumpy,
> > 
> > Are you using sys-whonix to enter the internet? If yes you probably
> > have to open port 9000 on the firewall, because tor traffic goes
> > trough port 9000
> > 
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > 
> > On 09/17/2017 11:36 PM, Stumpy wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 17.09.2017 23:34, Stumpy wrote:
> > > > One of the many things on my checklist is to setup some of my appvms
> > > > with proper fw rules. I thought I'd start with gmail that I use
> > > > with a
> > > > mail client. I thought it would just be:
> > > > smtp.gmail.com
> > > > imap.gmail.com
> > > > and set it for smtp and imap services using tcp protocol.
> > > > Afaik those are the two servers that the client connects to, its what
> > > > I have set in my client but it seems I haven't set something right
> > > > because the client can't send/recive anything.
> > > > 
> > > > So two questions:
> > > > 1) Is there something I am missing with the above settings and
> > > > 2) Is there a way I can see the incomming/outgoing traffic for this
> > > > one appvm? (which I am guessing would help give me a better idea of
> > > > what servers/addresses I need to add to my firewall).
> > > 
> > > duh. I forgot to also mention that I do have the "deny network
> > > access except" raido button chked
> > > 
> 
> 
> Hi Frosty,
> 
> Thx 4 that.
> 
> in This case I am not using whonix but I did plan on setting up some of my
> whnx appvms/firewalls later so that might come in handy.
> Regarding ports, is there a GUI way to add ports, ie vm manager -> firewall
> dialog box, or does that require editing ip tables?
> 
> Cheers

Hi Stumpy

One problem that you face is that those names map to a number of
different IP addresses.
When you use a name in the firewall editor it is resolved when you set
up the rule to 1 IP address. You should therefore make a note of the IP
addresses and use them in the editor. 

The entries you make here are reflected in the FORWARD chain of the
proxy upstream. You can inspect these by opening a terminal in that qube
(e.g sys-firewall) and using 'iptables -L -nv' - look in the FORWARD
chain and you sill see entries for the mail qube. You should also be
able to see the counters incrementing when you try to make a connection.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Setting up firewall for mail and seeing traffic for individual appvms?

2017-09-17 Thread Stumpy



On 17.09.2017 23:41, Frosty wrote:

Hi Stumpy,

Are you using sys-whonix to enter the internet? If yes you probably
have to open port 9000 on the firewall, because tor traffic goes
trough port 9000


Regards.


On 09/17/2017 11:36 PM, Stumpy wrote:



On 17.09.2017 23:34, Stumpy wrote:

One of the many things on my checklist is to setup some of my appvms
with proper fw rules. I thought I'd start with gmail that I use with 
a

mail client. I thought it would just be:
smtp.gmail.com
imap.gmail.com
and set it for smtp and imap services using tcp protocol.
Afaik those are the two servers that the client connects to, its what
I have set in my client but it seems I haven't set something right
because the client can't send/recive anything.

So two questions:
1) Is there something I am missing with the above settings and
2) Is there a way I can see the incomming/outgoing traffic for this
one appvm? (which I am guessing would help give me a better idea of
what servers/addresses I need to add to my firewall).


duh. I forgot to also mention that I do have the "deny network access 
except" raido button chked





Hi Frosty,

Thx 4 that.

in This case I am not using whonix but I did plan on setting up some of 
my whnx appvms/firewalls later so that might come in handy.
Regarding ports, is there a GUI way to add ports, ie vm manager -> 
firewall dialog box, or does that require editing ip tables?


Cheers

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[qubes-users] Re: Setting up firewall for mail and seeing traffic for individual appvms?

2017-09-17 Thread Stumpy



On 17.09.2017 23:34, Stumpy wrote:

One of the many things on my checklist is to setup some of my appvms
with proper fw rules. I thought I'd start with gmail that I use with a
mail client. I thought it would just be:
smtp.gmail.com
imap.gmail.com
and set it for smtp and imap services using tcp protocol.
Afaik those are the two servers that the client connects to, its what
I have set in my client but it seems I haven't set something right
because the client can't send/recive anything.

So two questions:
1) Is there something I am missing with the above settings and
2) Is there a way I can see the incomming/outgoing traffic for this
one appvm? (which I am guessing would help give me a better idea of
what servers/addresses I need to add to my firewall).


duh. I forgot to also mention that I do have the "deny network access 
except" raido button chked


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