[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-26 Thread Dave C
On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 8:33:07 PM UTC-7, Paulo Marques wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I hope you guys can help me, I'm new to Qubes Os and i was trying to install 
> Qubes 3.2 but i'm stacked at "Starting to switch root..." and it just won't 
> proceed the installation. I've tried do enabled/disabled Uefi mode on the 
> bios, changed it to Uefi with legacy OPROM, but the result is always the 
> same, i'm stalled there. Can someone help me please! I really would like to 
> make a change in my system and i'd love to change to Qubes Os.
> 
> I'm running on a core I5 6500 With a Z270-P Asus Motherboard, 275GB SSD 
> Crucial disk and 16GB of Ram.


I'm curious whether the approach I posted to 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/4VsKdxnKHBk works for you.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-20 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 10:42:25 AM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> Hi Cooloutac, thanks for yours advice man
> 
> "it would require building your own iso or using some kickstart file.  I 
> believe this has been done before but I'm failing to find it searching the 
> mailing list.
> 
> "Building your own iso is out of my expertise" and out of mine also..., but 
> I'll try to find searching the mailing list about using some Kickstart file 
> (although I suspect it's out of my "league" also but I'll try.
> 
> "what if you burn qubes on a dvd? ... and install legacy mode..." I've done 
> it already... I've tried with a burned DVD on my first atempts ... :( But 
> thanks for the tip anyway... ;)
> 
> "Swapping drives really isn't a solution man..." Thanks, I know that but as I 
> only have one Pc (a tower/desktop one) and I couldn't stop working, meanwhile 
> I had to find a way to make the transition for Qubes, and as soon I install 
> it, I'll drop out the other one and keep the Qubes Os as my only one system 
> active... 
> I'm "glad" I did it this way otherwise i couldn't keep on working and could 
> not access this forum and ask for advice in case things didn't went well 
> (which they did unfortunately).
> 
> But anyhow thanks for your advices man ;) , I'll try to find the Kickstart 
> discussion and trie it... and then I'll try again with the DVD way, and after 
> that I'll download another image and I'll try all over again from that... 
> Let's see what happened... (let me keep my fingers crossed ;) )

try suggestions in this thread 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/Eq2zZU5yXEs/qs94AX1uAAAJ

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-17 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 3:33:17 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> > In Fact when I went to the global settings in Qubes 3.2 Running in Virtual 
> > box AFTER I made an update either of Domm(o) and also of Fedora 23 (wich is 
> > the template that I'm using) it gives me a Kernel 4.4.67-12 (current) ...
> > 
> > When I runned it from VMware Workstation in the beginning gives me a:
> > Loading Kernel
> > xen 4.6.1...
> > Linux 4.4.14-11 popvs qubes x86_64
> > 
> > so It seems my image have an Linux 4.4.14-11 Kernel? what can I do?
> 
> unfortunately I don't know, hopefully someone else can answer.  it would 
> require building your own iso or using some kickstart file.  I believe this 
> has been done before but I'm failing to find it searching the mailing list.   
> 
> Building your own iso is out of my expertise, but there is documentation on 
> the website.  I believe a kickstart file would be easier if you can find the 
> discussion.

what if you burn qubes on a dvd? is that possible for you? and instal legacy 
mode that way,  won't helpt with graphics issue though. but then maybe you can 
actually install in text mode and get a tty later to install newer kernel.

Swapping drives really isn't a solution man if the firmware of the mobo and 
other peripherals get infected your Qubes still at risk if another os being 
used on the machine regardless.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-17 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> In Fact when I went to the global settings in Qubes 3.2 Running in Virtual 
> box AFTER I made an update either of Domm(o) and also of Fedora 23 (wich is 
> the template that I'm using) it gives me a Kernel 4.4.67-12 (current) ...
> 
> When I runned it from VMware Workstation in the beginning gives me a:
> Loading Kernel
> xen 4.6.1...
> Linux 4.4.14-11 popvs qubes x86_64
> 
> so It seems my image have an Linux 4.4.14-11 Kernel? what can I do?

unfortunately I don't know, hopefully someone else can answer.  it would 
require building your own iso or using some kickstart file.  I believe this has 
been done before but I'm failing to find it searching the mailing list.   

Building your own iso is out of my expertise, but there is documentation on the 
website.  I believe a kickstart file would be easier if you can find the 
discussion.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread Paulo Marques
In Fact when I went to the global settings in Qubes 3.2 Running in Virtual box 
AFTER I made an update either of Domm(o) and also of Fedora 23 (wich is the 
template that I'm using) it gives me a Kernel 4.4.67-12 (current) ...

When I runned it from VMware Workstation in the beginning gives me a:
Loading Kernel
xen 4.6.1...
Linux 4.4.14-11 popvs qubes x86_64

so It seems my image have an Linux 4.4.14-11 Kernel? what can I do?

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread Paulo Marques
Hi Cooloutac 
"maybe you need to have that 4.8 kernel." - how is that ? Doesn't the image 
downloaded from either the Qubes site or their mirrors doesn't included already 
that?
How can I see if that is the case and if not how can I put together that Kernel 
with the rest of the image? 

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 12:24:55 PM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> "...putting the hdd mode to ahci." It's been on AHCI mode all the time...

maybe you need to have that 4.8 kernel.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 10:33:43 AM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> I Cooloutac,
> 
> "disable vt-d and see if qubes boot" ... I've tried to do that with Ipv-6 
> disabled and secure boot disabled also as you can see by the images bellow 
> ... nothing happened. I've tried with the 3 installation modes (testing and 
> installing, installing, and verboose mode) with or without the UEFI 
> troubleshoting on the Qubes page also and nothing, I also tried to installed 
> either on a blank disk or in a Linux Fedora 23 installed already disk, it 
> stucks  in the same place... :P
> 
> (by the way, I finally could managed to install Qubes 3.2 over the VMware 
> Workstation... just to test the the image, and it seems to work just fine 
> (updating opening different  app Vm's, and so on) but i don't want to run it 
> from there...)

ok what about putting the hdd mode to ahci.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread Paulo Marques
"What I was suggesting was to disable vt-d and see if qubes boot."

Ok, let's try...

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-13 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 1:11:57 PM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> I Cooloutac.
> 
> Thanks man ...
> (if only  I could...) "install qubes baremetal straight to the hdd and boot 
> it from bios..."
> 
> The vt-d and secure boot instances on the Bios are the same now with Fedora 
> 23 as they were before when trying to install qubes 3.2 (enabled for the 
> Vt-d, Enable for Vt-x and other Os for the secure Boot)
> 
> my kernel version on Fedora 23 is: 4.8.13-100.fc23.x86_64
> 
> Thanks again

What I was suggesting was to disable vt-d and see if qubes boot.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-08 Thread Paulo Marques
but If I use version 4.2.3-300.fc23.x86_64 with fusion desktop is the same (i'm 
writing this second message on it)

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-08 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 2:13:32 AM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> Hi Foppe, 
> 
> "You'll have to install it to a disk and dual-boot to it to get it to work" 
> According to Qubes Team that isn't a very good solution for security reasons 
> because the other system can be "taken" and your all qubes installation is at 
> risk, wright? 
> 
> Anyway, I've insttaled Fedora 23 and it seems to be running alright..

what foppe means is to install qubes baremetal straight to the hdd and boot it 
from bios not a vm.

But if you did that with fedora 23 and it works,  i'm not sure what the 
difference other then maybe vt-d and secure boot.  What kernel is your fedora 
23 using?

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-08 Thread Paulo Marques
Hi Foppe 
quote "I don't have a dual-boot menu, though, I just tell the bios from which 
disk to boot." - That's exactly what i'm trying to do, that't wy I bought this 
case (  
https://www.google.pt/search?q=Caixa+Nox+Coolbay+VX+Zero+Edition=firefox-b=X=isch=u=univ=0ahUKEwiSjPC5pa7UAhUCshQKHesBBKYQsAQIMg=1024=633
  ) so I could change the disks even more easily, without having to open the 
box buy using the upper tray. But either in the upper tray or in the internal 
bays it seams I can't install it at all . . . :((
Do you know if there is a way to install a system from another OS 
(windows/Linux) by way of copying/intalling the system files from there to 
another disk, a blank/previous formatted one for instance?

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-08 Thread Paulo Marques
Hi Foppe, 

"You'll have to install it to a disk and dual-boot to it to get it to work" 
According to Qubes Team that isn't a very good solution for security reasons 
because the other system can be "taken" and your all qubes installation is at 
risk, wright? 

Anyway, I've insttaled Fedora 23 and it seems to be running alright...

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-07 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 3:38:01 AM UTC+2, Paulo Marques wrote:
> HI Foppe,
> 
> Nothig more exept:
> 
> "Error messages beneath the 
> efi: EFI_MEMMAP is not enabled. 
> esrt: ESRT header is not in the memory map. 
> are: 
> dracud-pre-trigger[402]: cat: /tmp/dd_disk: No such file or directory. 
> dracut-initqueue[511]: mount: /dev/sdb is write protected while booting the 
> installation device. "
> 
> I've try also to follow this instructions (see links below) 
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/ 
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/6f2kuu/tutorial_for_those_having_installationboot/
>  
> 
> In the last link I was "new 48" (it didn't let me put my name on the 
> post/thread.
> 
> Besides that I've tryied to install again either the 3.2 or the 3.1 version 
> (I thought it could be the download and so I download again and also the 3.1 
> version) and it stuked again on the same place, if I change the boot to 
> legacy, it goes to a blue screen with intall/test and install/troublshoot 
> option and when I choose the last it goes to a text menu with 7 options to 
> fulfill but coudn't pass it either as it asks for a lurks password ???
> 
> I thought I could see if the images are good in a VM so I installed both 
> Virtualbox and VMware Workstation 12, I could install and run Qubes 3.1 from 
> the last (VMware) and Qubes 3.2 from the first(Virtualbox), but unfortunately 
> the late (3.2) couldn't have the sis-net active and so I couldn't run 
> practically no programs. (see Photos attached)
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions
> 
> best Regards

Oh I see. Yes, Qubes doesn't work (or barely works) inside another VM, for a 
lot of reasons. You'll have to install it to a disk and dual-boot to it to get 
it to work.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-07 Thread Paulo Marques
Hi Cooloutac,

I've tried Fedora 23 Installation and it seems to work well (I'm writing this 
from  Firefox after the Fedora 23 installation)

Tanks for your suggestions

Regards

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-07 Thread Paulo Marques
Hi Cooloutac,

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm downloading Fedora 23 now and I'll Install it 
as soon as I'll get it ;)

What do you mean by a " a discrete gpu installed"? My Cpu is an i5 core 6500 
and as Intel® HD Graphics 530 included (I don't think I'm able do disable it in 
the bios) and my motherboard is an Z270-p from ASUS and have an Integrated 
Graphics Processor- Intel® HD Graphics support, is this what you are referring 
as a discrete gpu installed"? where can I disable it in the Bios?

I don't intend to run Qubes in a VM since it was not built to it, it was just a 
way to see if the images downloaded were ok... ;)

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-07 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 7:05:55 AM UTC-4, Paulo Marques wrote:
> I cooloutac
> 
> Thank you for your suggestions
> 
> "I would play around with bios settings man.  set turn off secure boot,  hdd 
> mode ahci, use legacy boot. change csm settings, try auto,  set to boot other 
> os.  check usb settings, any other hdd settings."   
> 
> I've done all that already (I've been doing that since last tuesday...) :( :P 
>  ;)
> 
> "Does baremetal fedora install and run ok?" 
> I haven't tried that, just tried to run Fedora on a Virtualbox VM and it runs 
> ok
> 
> As the usb device for qubes installation loaded and checked the files.
> I've tried also to follow this link instructions (below) as the message in 
> the beginning of the installation says 
> 
> Error messages beneath the
> efi: EFI_MEMMAP is not enabled.
> esrt: ESRT header is not in the memory map.
> are:
> dracud-pre-trigger[402]: cat: /tmp/dd_disk: No such file or directory. 
> dracut-initqueue[511]: mount: /dev/sdb is write protected while booting the 
> installation device.
> 
> I've trie also to follow this instructions (see links below)
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/6f2kuu/tutorial_for_those_having_installationboot/
> 
> "In GRUB menu1, select “Troubleshoot”, then “Boot from device”, then press e.
> At the end of chainloader line add /mapbs /noexitboot.
> Perform installation normally, but not reboot system at the end yet."
> 
> but Before I can perform installation normally it runs the text command line 
> (in a speedy way) (I think that's the ANACONDA installer wright?) and in the 
> middle stops the text and says
> 
> "starting show plymouth boot screen..." 
> and doesn't get out of there...
> 
> So I've to reboot again after a wile and whatever options I choose from the 
> menu (  1)install Qubes 3.2, 2) preform a test and install, 3) troubleshoot 
> and verboose mode, and 4) rescue a qubes installation I always get stuked in 
> the same frase/fase of the installation.
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> Regards

I don't have any other suggestions except that running things in vbox or vmware 
is not same as baremetal.  I would try to install fedora 23 iso as baremetal to 
your hdd.  just to narrow it to a qubes specific issue or help point to a 
solution. 

also Do you have a discrete gpu installed?  Try to disable it and use the 
onboard one.

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-07 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 1:05:55 PM UTC+2, Paulo Marques wrote:
> I cooloutac
> 
> Thank you for your suggestions
> 
> "I would play around with bios settings man.  set turn off secure boot,  hdd 
> mode ahci, use legacy boot. change csm settings, try auto,  set to boot other 
> os.  check usb settings, any other hdd settings."   
> 
> I've done all that already (I've been doing that since last tuesday...) :( :P 
>  ;)
> 
> "Does baremetal fedora install and run ok?" 
> I haven't tried that, just tried to run Fedora on a Virtualbox VM and it runs 
> ok
> 
> As the usb device for qubes installation loaded and checked the files.
> I've tried also to follow this link instructions (below) as the message in 
> the beginning of the installation says 
> 
> Error messages beneath the
> efi: EFI_MEMMAP is not enabled.
> esrt: ESRT header is not in the memory map.
> are:
> dracud-pre-trigger[402]: cat: /tmp/dd_disk: No such file or directory. 
> dracut-initqueue[511]: mount: /dev/sdb is write protected while booting the 
> installation device.
> 
> I've trie also to follow this instructions (see links below)
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/6f2kuu/tutorial_for_those_having_installationboot/
> 
> "In GRUB menu1, select “Troubleshoot”, then “Boot from device”, then press e.
> At the end of chainloader line add /mapbs /noexitboot.
> Perform installation normally, but not reboot system at the end yet."
> 
> but Before I can perform installation normally it runs the text command line 
> (in a speedy way) (I think that's the ANACONDA installer wright?) and in the 
> middle stops the text and says
> 
> "starting show plymouth boot screen..." 
> and doesn't get out of there...
> 
> So I've to reboot again after a wile and whatever options I choose from the 
> menu (  1)install Qubes 3.2, 2) preform a test and install, 3) troubleshoot 
> and verboose mode, and 4) rescue a qubes installation I always get stuked in 
> the same frase/fase of the installation.
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> Regards

It doesn't provide any additional information when you select verbose mode 
startup, aside from the (irrelevant) message about plymouth boot screen?

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-06 Thread Paulo Marques
I cooloutac

Thank you for your suggestions

"I would play around with bios settings man.  set turn off secure boot,  hdd 
mode ahci, use legacy boot. change csm settings, try auto,  set to boot other 
os.  check usb settings, any other hdd settings."   

I've done all that already (I've been doing that since last tuesday...) :( :P  
;)

"Does baremetal fedora install and run ok?" 
I haven't tried that, just tried to run Fedora on a Virtualbox VM and it runs ok

As the usb device for qubes installation loaded and checked the files.
I've tried also to follow this link instructions (below) as the message in the 
beginning of the installation says 

Error messages beneath the
efi: EFI_MEMMAP is not enabled.
esrt: ESRT header is not in the memory map.
are:
dracud-pre-trigger[402]: cat: /tmp/dd_disk: No such file or directory. 
dracut-initqueue[511]: mount: /dev/sdb is write protected while booting the 
installation device.

I've trie also to follow this instructions (see links below)

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/6f2kuu/tutorial_for_those_having_installationboot/

"In GRUB menu1, select “Troubleshoot”, then “Boot from device”, then press e.
At the end of chainloader line add /mapbs /noexitboot.
Perform installation normally, but not reboot system at the end yet."

but Before I can perform installation normally it runs the text command line 
(in a speedy way) (I think that's the ANACONDA installer wright?) and in the 
middle stops the text and says

"starting show plymouth boot screen..." 
and doesn't get out of there...

So I've to reboot again after a wile and whatever options I choose from the 
menu (  1)install Qubes 3.2, 2) preform a test and install, 3) troubleshoot and 
verboose mode, and 4) rescue a qubes installation I always get stuked in the 
same frase/fase of the installation.

Any suggestions??

Regards

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[qubes-users] Re: install Qubes 3.2 Stucked at "Starting Switch Root..."

2017-06-05 Thread Paulo Marques
I guys, I've tried already with another image and another Disk, an 500GB 
seagate and the results are the same. is it possible to be a disk driver (from 
Cubes installation setup ) problem or a disk/bios problem? Both disks, the SSD 
275GB Crucial and the 500GB Seagate are functioning well as I did an early 
(provisionary) installation of a Window 7 image and they both got recognized 
either on the Bios and afterward when the system is installed (in the jpeg 
above disks E: and G:).  Can someone please please help me?
Regards

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