Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-17 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Stay tuned!

Basically it's hopefully all been covered in news.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Stay_Tuned

Qubes-Whonix documentation:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Reinstall

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall

Ryan Tate:
> qubes-template-whonix-gw
> qubes-template-whonix-ws

This is now:

qubes-template-whonix-gw-14

qubes-template-whonix-ws-14

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[qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-11 Thread 22rip
I had problems trying to upgrade as well...I ended up doing a fresh install, 
during the install I selected Whonix NOT to be installed.

After the install I then added Whonix-14 (I didn't have to delete the old).

Did this a while ago and have updated a few times with no issues...

Bit of a sledge hammer solution...hope it helps.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-08 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:41:34 PM UTC-5, cooloutac wrote:
> and like above poster I have found that uninstalling template or reinstalling 
> template is not fixing the issue.   anyone know how I can get whonix-gw 
> updated or load a terminal on it again?

also tried removing and re-adding appmenus.  but as I said even trying to load 
konsole from qvm-run doens't work.   nothing happens.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-08 Thread cooloutac
and like above poster I have found that uninstalling template or reinstalling 
template is not fixing the issue.   anyone know how I can get whonix-gw updated 
or load a terminal on it again?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-08 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:38:55 PM UTC-5, cooloutac wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 7:30:32 PM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 12:25:34PM -0800, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > > > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-gw-4.0.0-201803270426.noarch 
> > > > not available
> > > > Error: No packages marked for reinstall.
> > > > 
> > > > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-ws-4.0.0.-201803270504.noarch 
> > > > not available.
> > > > Error: No packages marked for reintall.
> > > 
> > > I forgot to say which commands I used to reinstall:
> > > 
> > > sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-gw
> > > 
> > > and
> > > 
> > > sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-ws
> > > 
> > 
> > The problem is, as I recently discovered, is that dnf reinstall
> > attempts to reinstall exactly the same version of the package that you
> > have. This means that if the package has been updated and the old package
> > removed then reinstall will fail.
> > You probably need to use update.
> 
> I'm having the same exact problem right now.   Tried uninstalling and 
> reinstalling template as well.   But only after I already couldn't open up 
> any applications in whonix-gw,  after seeing that the update window from 
> qubes-manager wasn't loading anymore.
> 
> In the past this was a debian thing to do with the languages changing and 
> having to change it back to english.
> 
> But the issue is I can't bring up any program in the gui for whonix-gw,  
> can't bring up a terminal or update it.

I didn't copy anything from dom0.  didn't do any changes to system at all.  
whonix-gw just all of a sudden will not load any applications from menu,  or 
qvm-run.   nothing happens.  and its not updating.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-08 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 7:30:32 PM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 12:25:34PM -0800, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-gw-4.0.0-201803270426.noarch not 
> > > available
> > > Error: No packages marked for reinstall.
> > > 
> > > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-ws-4.0.0.-201803270504.noarch not 
> > > available.
> > > Error: No packages marked for reintall.
> > 
> > I forgot to say which commands I used to reinstall:
> > 
> > sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-gw
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-ws
> > 
> 
> The problem is, as I recently discovered, is that dnf reinstall
> attempts to reinstall exactly the same version of the package that you
> have. This means that if the package has been updated and the old package
> removed then reinstall will fail.
> You probably need to use update.

I'm having the same exact problem right now.   Tried uninstalling and 
reinstalling template as well.   But only after I already couldn't open up any 
applications in whonix-gw,  after seeing that the update window from 
qubes-manager wasn't loading anymore.

In the past this was a debian thing to do with the languages changing and 
having to change it back to english.

But the issue is I can't bring up any program in the gui for whonix-gw,  can't 
bring up a terminal or update it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-07 Thread unman
On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 12:25:34PM -0800, Ryan Tate wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-gw-4.0.0-201803270426.noarch not 
> > available
> > Error: No packages marked for reinstall.
> > 
> > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-ws-4.0.0.-201803270504.noarch not 
> > available.
> > Error: No packages marked for reintall.
> 
> I forgot to say which commands I used to reinstall:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-gw
> 
> and
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-ws
> 

The problem is, as I recently discovered, is that dnf reinstall
attempts to reinstall exactly the same version of the package that you
have. This means that if the package has been updated and the old package
removed then reinstall will fail.
You probably need to use update.

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[qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-07 Thread Ryan Tate
Ah, finally I realize that whonix is in a community repo. This was not 
intuitive as I recall it coming with my Qubes 4 install (do I misremember?). 

Adding --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community seems to make it work.

So I just needed to do qubes-dom0-update  
--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=reinstall 
qubes-template-whonix-gw 

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[qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-07 Thread Ryan Tate
Well, now I can't figure out how to uninstall the template. Other VMs depend on 
it. Am I supposed to just reassign all of them, and delete it? 

Obviously I tried every permutation of "action=remove" I could think of but 
none matched. I tried copy/pasting every version of the full (and short) 
package name. 

[qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-07 Thread Ryan Tate
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:25:34 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-gw-4.0.0-201803270426.noarch not 
> > available
> > Error: No packages marked for reinstall.
> > 
> > Installed package qubes-template-whonix-ws-4.0.0.-201803270504.noarch not 
> > available.
> > Error: No packages marked for reintall.
> 
> I forgot to say which commands I used to reinstall:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-gw
> 
> and
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-ws

Turns out this is a known issue for more than a year and a half :-(

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/action$20reinstall$20package$20not$20available%7Csort:date/qubes-users/pZfFGDsTXbc/9d94zBMXAgAJ

IMO if this isn't going to be fixed the reinstall action should simply be 
removed. At least then people would just do the thing that works - remove the 
package, install the package. Having a broken reinstall is the worst of all 
worlds.

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[qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

2018-11-07 Thread Ryan Tate
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-5, Ryan Tate wrote:
> Installed package qubes-template-whonix-gw-4.0.0-201803270426.noarch not 
> available
> Error: No packages marked for reinstall.
> 
> Installed package qubes-template-whonix-ws-4.0.0.-201803270504.noarch not 
> available.
> Error: No packages marked for reintall.

I forgot to say which commands I used to reinstall:

sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-gw

and

sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-whonix-ws

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