Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2019-06-24 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
oak2...@gmail.com: Hi, having problems creating sys-usb and want to use a usb keyboard, usb mouse, and a usb flash drive with the computer, that's it. What would be the most secure setup for that in terms of where to assign my usb devices too? Qubes page says using an Untrusted Qube for

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2019-06-24 Thread oak2572
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 6:13:48 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2017-03-19 13:50, andres...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I use an external keyboard and mouse, both currently connected to > > dom0. After reading the USB doc I

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-07-11 Thread Andres MRM
[2017-05-23 15:18] Vít Šesták: > So, I've created DVM-like sys-usb and it the first working version was easier > than I thought. Just make /var/lib/qubes/servicevms/sys-usb/private.img an > empty file. I have renamed the original file and performed "touch > private.img". > > VM sys-usb then

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-05-23 Thread Vít Šesták
So, I've created DVM-like sys-usb and it the first working version was easier than I thought. Just make /var/lib/qubes/servicevms/sys-usb/private.img an empty file. I have renamed the original file and performed "touch private.img". VM sys-usb then still boots and works as USB input proxy. It

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-28 Thread Andres MRM
Thanks for the replies! [2017-03-27 22:13] cooloutac: > so I guess just take your chances with it on the usb qube. I do it with > mouse never seen anything weird happen. a wireless mouse too. although I > probably should put lock screen on I just realized I don't even have it on. I setup an USB

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-28 Thread Vít Šesták
Well, are you sure that the vast majority of computers have just one USB controller? I find it pretty common even now to have both USB 2 and USB 3 ports. Well, my laptop (though it is quite older) has separate USB2 and USB3 with separate controllers. But maybe today's laptops have both USB2 and

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-27 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-4, Andres MRM wrote: > [2017-03-26 21:14] cooloutac: > > what about using the internal kb, no good? > > No... I'm using an ergonomic one. It wasn't cheap, it's very different from a > common one and it took me months to get used to it. =P so I guess

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-26 Thread Andres MRM
[2017-03-26 21:14] cooloutac: > what about using the internal kb, no good? No... I'm using an ergonomic one. It wasn't cheap, it's very different from a common one and it took me months to get used to it. =P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-26 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 8:05:55 AM UTC-4, Andres MRM wrote: > > ehci is for older usb protocol. xhci is for 3.0, maybe there is option in > > bios to disable usb 3.0. then maybe it will have separate routed > > controllers? Thats how it works on my desktop pc. otherwise all controllers >

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-26 Thread Andres MRM
> ehci is for older usb protocol. xhci is for 3.0, maybe there is option in > bios to disable usb 3.0. then maybe it will have separate routed > controllers? Thats how it works on my desktop pc. otherwise all controllers > get routed through the xhci one. but then you will be giving up usb

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-23 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 8:21:40 AM UTC-4, Andres MRM wrote: > [2017-03-22 18:52] cooloutac: > > not sure but if its like my pc when using xhci (usb 3.0) everything goes > > through thaT one controller. it look like you have ehci controller too but > > not sure. What I do with one

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-23 Thread Andres MRM
[2017-03-22 18:52] cooloutac: > not sure but if its like my pc when using xhci (usb 3.0) everything goes > through thaT one controller. it look like you have ehci controller too but > not sure. What I do with one controller is use a usb to pci adapter for the > kb. For mouse you can use the

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-22 Thread cooloutac
On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 6:36:54 AM UTC-4, Andres MRM wrote: > Thanks for the replies, Unman and Andrew. > And sorry for not answering you before, Unman, but I only saw your > message now. > > [2017-03-19 20:48] Unman: > > Try 'lspci|grep USB' > > Alternatively, look in QubesManager on the

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-20 Thread Andres MRM
Thanks for the replies, Unman and Andrew. And sorry for not answering you before, Unman, but I only saw your message now. [2017-03-19 20:48] Unman: > Try 'lspci|grep USB' > Alternatively, look in QubesManager on the devices tab, and see how many > Controllers are there. # lspci|grep USB 00:14.0

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-03-19 17:52, Andres MRM wrote: > Thanks for the reply, Andrew! > > [2017-03-19 19:13] Andrew David Wong: >> That's up to you. The pros and cons are, I think, pretty clearly >> laid out on the USB page. If you have specific questions that >>

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-19 Thread Andres MRM
Thanks for the reply, Andrew! [2017-03-19 19:13] Andrew David Wong: > That's up to you. The pros and cons are, I think, pretty clearly laid > out on the USB page. If you have specific questions that aren't > addressed there, please feel free to ask. That's what I feared... =/ I think I have no

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-19 Thread Unman
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 01:50:30PM -0700, andres...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi! > > I use an external keyboard and mouse, both currently connected to dom0. > After reading the USB doc I wanted to add an USB qube so I could "safely" > connect other devices (like untrusted pendrives, and my smartphone

Re: [qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-03-19 13:50, andres...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi! > > I use an external keyboard and mouse, both currently connected to > dom0. After reading the USB doc I wanted to add an USB qube so I > could "safely" connect other devices (like untrusted

[qubes-users] Safely use USB keyboard and untrusted USB devices with only 1 USB controller?

2017-03-19 Thread andresmrm
Hi! I use an external keyboard and mouse, both currently connected to dom0. After reading the USB doc I wanted to add an USB qube so I could "safely" connect other devices (like untrusted pendrives, and my smartphone to an adb qube). Since untrusted devices will connected to this USB qube, it