Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/6/19 12:57 PM, unman wrote: I didnt mean to give you the brush off - just to remind you that Qubes *does* allow you to make (serious) mistakes without pain, if you clone and test first. Oh yes, everything is fine to me and I got you right. I really appreciate your way of helping. Have a nice Sunday :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b655a5d5-1234-024a-0628-bef7872f07f7%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 11:14:27AM +0100, gone wrote: > On 1/5/19 5:39 PM, unman wrote: > > > > > There really isn't anything to be lost (assuming you are working in a > > cloned template.) > > > > You are completely right. I should more often just try what happens than ask > for every little step in fear of crushing the system on the playground. > I didnt mean to give you the brush off - just to remind you that Qubes *does* allow you to make (serious) mistakes without pain, if you clone and test first. Try including the threatened packages in the install line, and let us know how you get on. Don't forget to set the Default to "stretch" when you're all installed. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190106115718.ln2bfbrpjylqqdfp%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/5/19 5:39 PM, unman wrote: There really isn't anything to be lost (assuming you are working in a cloned template.) You are completely right. I should more often just try what happens than ask for every little step in fear of crushing the system on the playground. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f6af8a54-5bb8-5e59-cbee-b52dd9ac3c78%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 03:08:19PM +0100, gone wrote: > On 1/5/19 2:21 AM, unman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:40:08PM -0500, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > On 01/04/2019 04:18 PM, gone wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks again, unman. > > > > > > > > I think I've understood all the steps up to 5. and executed them. Then > > > > with Step 6 it went different to what you predicted. No output about > > > > mgmt-salt (btw. what is that?) and unfortunately no option to "say NO": > > > > > > > > user@debian-9-mix:~$ sudo apt-get install python3.7 > > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > > Building dependency tree > > > > Reading state information... Done > > > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > > > python3.7 : Depends: python3.7-minimal (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not > > > > going to be installed > > > > Depends: libpython3.7-stdlib (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is > > > > not > > > > going to be installed > > > > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > > > > > > > Is that problematic? Would you propose to go on with step 7 or do > > > > something else first? > > > > > > > > > > I think you need to include the '-t buster' option for apt-get install. > > > Otherwise it won't look for newer dependencies in the buster repo and so > > > won't be able to find them. > > > > > > > If you look at my instructions, you'll see I didnt suggest setting the > > Default-Release until *after* you'd installed Python3.7. > > My guess is that you've pinned to stretch already, so you have to > > specify buster for the install, as Chris says. > > If you do, you'll see the warning - mgmt-salt-vm-connector is the backend > > that allows for salt control of qubes. The new update tool uses this to > > run updates so you'll wont be able to use it on the new template. > > > > Fine, I performed Step 6 with the -t buster option, got the warning and said > NO. > > Same done in Step 7 apt tells, that the qubes-* packages are already the > newest version and set to manually installed. But after that still the > warning appears: > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > libqt5designer5 libqt5gui5 libqt5help5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5svg5 > libqt5widgets5 > python3-pyqt5 qt5-gtk-platformtheme qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector > qubes-vm-recommended > salt-common salt-ssh > The following NEW packages will be installed: > libboost-iostreams1.67.0 libboost-system1.67.0 libdrm-common > libevent-2.1-6 libicu63 > libpcre2-16-0 libpython3.7 libpython3.7-dev libpython3.7-minimal > libpython3.7-stdlib > libunbound8 libwebpmux3 libzstd1 python3-distutils python3-lib2to3 > python3.7 > python3.7-dev python3.7-minimal uuid-dev > > > I'm not sure. Will they really be removed or rather not because before they > will get set to manually installed? Or in different words: Should I say yes > here? > It's always difficult troubleshooting someone else's problems without knowing exactly what the setup is, or exactly what commands they are running. I've installed all those packages, and when I run step7 I DONT see that note about removing these packages. (As I've explained qubes-vm-recommended, salt-common and salt-ssh have to go.) This makes me think that you have a range of packages installed, some of which are dependencies of the packages in the REMOVED list, and that they are incompatible with python3.7 or ITS dependencies. Obviously I don't know what they might be. You haven't commented on whether you followed my instructions or whether you set the Default before starting out. If you did then I would start from a fresh clone and NOT set the default. (One reason for this is that you may not want to restrict yourself to buster which is what '-t buster' is doing.) If you do this then DONT use the -t option as that will FORCE apt to install everything from testing. If you want those named packages to be retained, then try adding them to the list of packages to be installed, or use aptitude which will help you to see exactly what is going on with these particular versions. There really isn't anything to be lost (assuming you are working in a cloned template.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190105163921.2jtg3yfylrfelkf6%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/5/19 2:21 AM, unman wrote: On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:40:08PM -0500, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/04/2019 04:18 PM, gone wrote: Thanks again, unman. I think I've understood all the steps up to 5. and executed them. Then with Step 6 it went different to what you predicted. No output about mgmt-salt (btw. what is that?) and unfortunately no option to "say NO": user@debian-9-mix:~$ sudo apt-get install python3.7 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python3.7 : Depends: python3.7-minimal (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpython3.7-stdlib (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Is that problematic? Would you propose to go on with step 7 or do something else first? I think you need to include the '-t buster' option for apt-get install. Otherwise it won't look for newer dependencies in the buster repo and so won't be able to find them. If you look at my instructions, you'll see I didnt suggest setting the Default-Release until *after* you'd installed Python3.7. My guess is that you've pinned to stretch already, so you have to specify buster for the install, as Chris says. If you do, you'll see the warning - mgmt-salt-vm-connector is the backend that allows for salt control of qubes. The new update tool uses this to run updates so you'll wont be able to use it on the new template. Fine, I performed Step 6 with the -t buster option, got the warning and said NO. Same done in Step 7 apt tells, that the qubes-* packages are already the newest version and set to manually installed. But after that still the warning appears: The following packages will be REMOVED: libqt5designer5 libqt5gui5 libqt5help5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5svg5 libqt5widgets5 python3-pyqt5 qt5-gtk-platformtheme qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector qubes-vm-recommended salt-common salt-ssh The following NEW packages will be installed: libboost-iostreams1.67.0 libboost-system1.67.0 libdrm-common libevent-2.1-6 libicu63 libpcre2-16-0 libpython3.7 libpython3.7-dev libpython3.7-minimal libpython3.7-stdlib libunbound8 libwebpmux3 libzstd1 python3-distutils python3-lib2to3 python3.7 python3.7-dev python3.7-minimal uuid-dev I'm not sure. Will they really be removed or rather not because before they will get set to manually installed? Or in different words: Should I say yes here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e6404cdb-7a8c-4f83-fe08-f90d742b3ce1%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:40:08PM -0500, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 01/04/2019 04:18 PM, gone wrote: > > > Thanks again, unman. > > > > I think I've understood all the steps up to 5. and executed them. Then > > with Step 6 it went different to what you predicted. No output about > > mgmt-salt (btw. what is that?) and unfortunately no option to "say NO": > > > > user@debian-9-mix:~$ sudo apt-get install python3.7 > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > python3.7 : Depends: python3.7-minimal (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not > > going to be installed > > Depends: libpython3.7-stdlib (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not > > going to be installed > > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > > > Is that problematic? Would you propose to go on with step 7 or do > > something else first? > > > > I think you need to include the '-t buster' option for apt-get install. > Otherwise it won't look for newer dependencies in the buster repo and so > won't be able to find them. > If you look at my instructions, you'll see I didnt suggest setting the Default-Release until *after* you'd installed Python3.7. My guess is that you've pinned to stretch already, so you have to specify buster for the install, as Chris says. If you do, you'll see the warning - mgmt-salt-vm-connector is the backend that allows for salt control of qubes. The new update tool uses this to run updates so you'll wont be able to use it on the new template. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190105012119.uhpvoozieheb264s%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 01/04/2019 04:18 PM, gone wrote: Thanks again, unman. I think I've understood all the steps up to 5. and executed them. Then with Step 6 it went different to what you predicted. No output about mgmt-salt (btw. what is that?) and unfortunately no option to "say NO": user@debian-9-mix:~$ sudo apt-get install python3.7 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python3.7 : Depends: python3.7-minimal (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpython3.7-stdlib (= 3.7.2~rc1-1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Is that problematic? Would you propose to go on with step 7 or do something else first? I think you need to include the '-t buster' option for apt-get install. Otherwise it won't look for newer dependencies in the buster repo and so won't be able to find them. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/83bc9581-7d23-4312-37ff-cac1f8ff2ec6%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/4/19 11:56 AM, unman wrote: On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 12:12:44AM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 11:51 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 05:07 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 10:45 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version = 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . The relevant advice here is "set the default release as in the following link...". Not set default release to testing! In this case it should be set to stretch because that's the Debian release you're using. You should add testing only as an additional line in sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main Oh sorry, Chris, I reported wrong. The default in apt.conf is correctly set to stable. Thank you for the correct line to put in sources.list. FWIW, the debian page isn't terribly clear about it. Also, I believe that if you set the default to "stable" instead of the more specific "stretch", the system could try to
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 12:12:44AM +0100, gone wrote: > > On 1/3/19 11:51 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > On 01/03/2019 05:07 PM, gone wrote: > > > > > > On 1/3/19 10:45 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > > On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: > > > > > On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > > > > > > On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the > > > > > > > > > developers and supporters > > > > > > > > > for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by > > > > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > > and studying is the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a debian-9 template running and for some application > > > > > > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > installed on it I need Python with Version > > > > > > > > > >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I > > > > > > > > > attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at > > > > > > > > > https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when > > > > > > > > > switching to another repo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the build tools with "sudo > > > > > > > > > apt-get install -y ..." worked > > > > > > > > > fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "wget > > > > > > > > > https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. > > > > > > > > > wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I am neither an expert nor an experienced > > > > > > > > > from-source-installer I > > > > > > > > > need some help and hope to get it here. > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much in advance > > > > > > > > > and all the best for 2019. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Installing from Debian testing is much easier > > > > > > > > and it has Python 3.7. > > > > > > > > Just set the default release as in the following > > > > > > > > link, then add a line > > > > > > > > for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and > > > > > > > > then 'apt update'): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be > > > > > > > easier to change to the > > > > > > > testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on > > > > > > > the stable path with > > > > > > > that template. Switching to the testing repo and > > > > > > > 'apt update' would probably > > > > > > > cause trouble with other software running smoothly > > > > > > > so far. Or can I use that > > > > > > > only for python install and then fall back? > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you > > > > > > should be fine. > > > > > > apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't > > > > > > in > > > > > > itself do anything more. > > > > > > > > > > > > By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont > > > > > > be > > > > > > "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will > > > > > > only happen if > > > > > > you explicitly specify the testing repo: > > > > > > apt-get -t testing install foo > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent > > > > > > job of dealing > > > > > > with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt > > > > > > choose the version you want. It also lets you review in > > > > > > detail what the > > > > > > consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. > > > > > > > > > > > > And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the > > > > > > template, try out > > > > > > your proposed update from testing, and make sure that > > > > > > everything works > > > > > > fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in > > > > > the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional > > > > > line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. > > > > > > > > > > I've tried it with > > > > > > > > > > "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" > > > > > > > > > > but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in > > > > > the terminal: > > > > > > > > > > user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update > > > > > Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease > > > > > Hit:2
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/3/19 11:51 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 05:07 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 10:45 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . The relevant advice here is "set the default release as in the following link...". Not set default release to testing! In this case it should be set to stretch because that's the Debian release you're using. You should add testing only as an additional line in sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main Oh sorry, Chris, I reported wrong. The default in apt.conf is correctly set to stable. Thank you for the correct line to put in sources.list. FWIW, the debian page isn't terribly clear about it. Also, I believe that if you set the default to "stable" instead of the more specific "stretch", the system could try to upgrade everything when buster (v10) becomes
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 01/03/2019 05:07 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 10:45 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . The relevant advice here is "set the default release as in the following link...". Not set default release to testing! In this case it should be set to stretch because that's the Debian release you're using. You should add testing only as an additional line in sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main Oh sorry, Chris, I reported wrong. The default in apt.conf is correctly set to stable. Thank you for the correct line to put in sources.list. FWIW, the debian page isn't terribly clear about it. Also, I believe that if you set the default to "stable" instead of the more specific "stretch", the system could try to upgrade everything when buster (v10) becomes the new stable (though I'm not sure if it would get anywhere
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/3/19 10:45 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . The relevant advice here is "set the default release as in the following link...". Not set default release to testing! In this case it should be set to stretch because that's the Debian release you're using. You should add testing only as an additional line in sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main Oh sorry, Chris, I reported wrong. The default in apt.conf is correctly set to stable. Thank you for the correct line to put in sources.list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 01/03/2019 03:40 PM, gone wrote: On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . The relevant advice here is "set the default release as in the following link...". Not set default release to testing! In this case it should be set to stretch because that's the Debian release you're using. You should add testing only as an additional line in sources.list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. OK, I've done setting the default version to "testing" in the newly created /etc/apt/apt.conf but for the additional line in the sources.list I'm not sure, what really is to do. I've tried it with "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch testing contrib non-free" but that seems to be wrong, as I get the following output in the terminal: user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease Hit:2 http://security-cdn.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Ign:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease Hit:4 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:4 and /etc/apt/sources.list:10 W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translat.and several more lines with W: at the beginning. Sorry but I'm absolutely not familiar with that, although it's pretty interesting. @unman: As soon as it will have worked this way I promise to try aptitude next ;-) . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/788341bd-aa8e-8165-78b1-e945f0d8948b%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/3/19 12:50 AM, unman wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. Thanks unman and Chris. Gonna try that at the next opportunity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/95de63d6-b43e-346a-e2df-1e2a9a5a15fa%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:08:50PM +0100, gone wrote: > > On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: > > > Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters > > > for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after > > > some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step > > > and studying is the following: > > > > > > I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get > > > installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. > > > > > > Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I > > > attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at > > > https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ > > > in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when > > > switching to another repo. > > > > > > Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked > > > fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with > > > > > > "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; > > > > > > brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. > > > wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " > > > > > > As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I > > > need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance > > > and all the best for 2019. > > > > > > Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. > > Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line > > for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): > > > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version > > > > > Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the > testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with > that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably > cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that > only for python install and then fall back? > If you follow the instructions that Chris linked to you should be fine. apt update just updates the list of available packages. It doesn't in itself do anything more. By setting the default release to stable, you ensure that you wont be "accidentally" installing stuff from testing. That will only happen if you explicitly specify the testing repo: apt-get -t testing install foo I'd strongly recommend aptitude, which does an excellent job of dealing with packages from different releases, and allows you to explicilt choose the version you want. It also lets you review in detail what the consequnces will be , so you are always able to roll back. And, of course, with Qubes it's trivial to clone the template, try out your proposed update from testing, and make sure that everything works fine before you commit your precious qubes to use the new template. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190102235043.convhd6nsv76zliv%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 1/1/19 10:19 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version Thanks Chris for the explanation. Yes, it may be easier to change to the testing repo, but in general I would like to stay on the stable path with that template. Switching to the testing repo and 'apt update' would probably cause trouble with other software running smoothly so far. Or can I use that only for python install and then fall back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/13cd0d6e-a87a-3e53-7abe-af807f55af56%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
On 01/01/2019 02:37 PM, gone wrote: Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. Installing from Debian testing is much easier and it has Python 3.7. Just set the default release as in the following link, then add a line for "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list (and then 'apt update'): https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1b441a34-6082-32e3-95ad-8b8913199ac0%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Thanks and howto install Python version >= 2.6.4 on debian-9 template?
Hello, 1st of all, I want to thank all the developers and supporters for that great stuff called Qubes OS. My first question here after some hard time of setting up version 4.0, updating it step by step and studying is the following: I have a debian-9 template running and for some application to get installed on it I need Python with Version >= 3.6 as a prerequisite. Since the preinstalled versions in debian-9 are 2.7 and 3.5 I attempted to install version 3.6.4 from source as described at https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-python-3-6-4-on-debian-9/ in order not to run into problems with incompatibilities when switching to another repo. Installing the build tools with "sudo apt-get install -y ..." worked fine but the next step, downloading the source file, with "wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.4/Python-3.6.4.tgz; brings "... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.python.org’ " As I am neither an expert nor an experienced from-source-installer I need some help and hope to get it here. Thanks very much in advance and all the best for 2019. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c66d759d-5955-bcec-22e0-37af00a7fd08%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
