Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
ModemManager-glib NetworkManager-wifi anaconda-gui anaconda-widgets enchant fros geoclue2 glade-libs harfbuzz-icu hunspell hunspell-en-US initial-setup-gui libgnomekbd libicu libnm-gtk libreport-gtk libtimezonemap mobile-broadband-provider-info nm-connection-editor python3-meh-gui webkitgtk3 wpa_supplicant yelp yelp-libs yelp-xsl + keybinder3 in my list. Can we remove all of this? -- Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b47349b3-26d0-3a41-da01-93cfa83c0a1c%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-03-06 06:40, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Andrew David Wong > wrote: >> from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen >> related package. So is it safe to drop all other from >> above w/ rpm -e ? > > Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - > it will propose additional packages not needed anymore. > But carefully review that list before confirming. >>> Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? >>> May I add this (and above sentence as subject) as a feature >>> request in github? >> I waited a couple of days for this but didn't see anything >> submitted, so I've created an issue for it: >> >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2670 >> >> Didn't mean to steal your thunder, but I was afraid it would end >> up falling through the cracks (as so many important issues do). > Thank you. :) I was quite busy a few days including weekends. Also > it was unclear for me into which repo I should report this (yes, > this is probably documented in report bugs). %) > :) > btw: i18n regression should be reported there too? > I'm not sure which regression you're referring to. Please post a detailed comment on that issue if you think there's a relevant regression. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYvgamAAoJENtN07w5UDAwhgkP/Re+MN5uQMVlZKL6SZgSqoxk 9MYoGAyEWFX/ywKBo9hwGIwp/qziDWQQWgfN7F6eGXZ9nZGlqfdOB8CuvwvmIw9B LENrKDN7KIS+kwRI9ryx6ebdlDNWfR8L331omdn4VZ3XFDIirRCSxXBTwvhstihJ M16y3o+ddqllpQv7RunkVEUyrcQvW6bsgqDUYE3FpqbX/BFmQTLayJcdWXwXZ8OD 136sxNS1CzPsvn0fIEEZacbK5s9/h2GrJbWD/Tn4yIJubvEXil8pXd/KlHrhQ3zZ B0NdH8siTiwuOf/Mv9I5YYp7Uqtr/Hbjl8dQNVoUYg1Mjz0CYeK8sTu2JM9kXP/c 6EgLHJeb0U2bc89JSn8QkmtHs3Vi/wNFPgdDfFpjNjfYOBfmM6l1dDSlDme3goy/ 5RO3fTFx4o0dVH4+yKbnxrV6k1MczfzmXl9ODUVgwYuaMkWcY3/iyu/fws1ZhsSY RzdOixiibfzHQJFnTQRo8aRYK3JkuqUMMRr+TwpRNbM7A1AL4al//e2uppWGXRHI fPzTlcNGM+vKI5K1P5Oxulgx8QvnatIvzPB7zJff4U40aq30TaSTto3MXEbcU90E L4SamnMCFLzCp86H7oqWT1tQchSPhKicZNDpvJmId/oeICYpIoEWZTICQUhTYtID FlhnSGl3Vpn8tRTJSOPi =UuOa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b6e49c6-b97a-949d-8f7a-2269e8566184%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen > related package. So is it safe to drop all other from above > w/ rpm -e ? Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that list before confirming. >> >>> Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? >> May I add this (and above sentence as subject) as a feature >> request in github? > I waited a couple of days for this but didn't see anything submitted, > so I've created an issue for it: > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2670 > > Didn't mean to steal your thunder, but I was afraid it would end up > falling through the cracks (as so many important issues do). Thank you. :) I was quite busy a few days including weekends. Also it was unclear for me into which repo I should report this (yes, this is probably documented in report bugs). %) btw: i18n regression should be reported there too? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABunX6Ncmc3EM3kvNyCYS8Y99-ffYkSF_sv%2BucSWEdpXDz0diw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-03-03 04:15, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Oleg Artemiev > wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki >> wrote: >>> [...] from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? >>> >>> Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it >>> will propose additional packages not needed anymore. But >>> carefully review that list before confirming. > >> Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? > > May I add this (and above sentence as subject) as a feature > request in github? > I waited a couple of days for this but didn't see anything submitted, so I've created an issue for it: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2670 Didn't mean to steal your thunder, but I was afraid it would end up falling through the cracks (as so many important issues do). > We should not have non-required packages in Dom0 by default, > right? > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYu+h/AAoJENtN07w5UDAwLbkP/1rbrYwkBIaQ1DK9OkS/39H5 9k0Fb2HPTtLIBhByuPstVvN5VGh9eQzxJ33RGy6T0zpsza9Jydvj+vaHGoD2gUQ8 a0/WnR0xHBEIhNU+7AUdrXnJlm1nuOwqcXRMdzdHKAypIAjp1pYB0dCg+WWQbz7D UGUCIxmQMhViFxBvnXqrQkUYTUCdhPPe7+0bAnw/kbAwSsZlpAL5MtS9Nd3+kjzj eBo+KMYXdPSOWVoiGN9F0b+HS+wwUUrD7pocWZQPm/DOLnvOPmZZrHxeZwqVGp4M AN0YmGUgBpNakakYv7hqVpApLkLrsQCSXguPpdaf7pGESzhSDvVDA+9JU4SWderO Cj2x8q37LFskVbglZZRjnM8mByCIyWiyR6Lrmwkpw/+QjHTRBHDMa5y34/0UC5OM +G5RW5m+czilqNI/AkJ0dKPgoiBDYnXmvOi78uh6isqlAFuWphYrDfQkmaDvp730 FkX8+fjPopCa+NKz6oihTVTCUN7C9qaY/y96hO9aWeXnGrbB0ra+2XF/IdRd91PG VTLhiYFsfV48mtbtLOwBZuN4yOwWJSBRXeqmp86eQUlDbQz9Uzog+8cNW2jQ4kyw rPAF735oD1G4As9vWkjTICQLW3zEw0DMI5xbaRVMO+3lwbFUVeS/dOV2yvCIm0Lx bQlF0XYgUCQ8AJDvHF1q =BzHB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b2750b0-3be5-0cc2-95ae-8be53327dd69%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
> Marek wrote: > Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose > additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that > list before confirming. While this is true, it is of no help for a lot of people, myself included. The following packets are proposed for deletion. ModemManager-glib NetworkManager-wifi anaconda-gui anaconda-widgets enchant fros geoclue2 glade-libs harfbuzz-icu hunspell hunspell-en-US initial-setup-gui libgnomekbd libicu libnm-gtk libreport-gtk libtimezonemap mobile-broadband-provider-info nm-connection-editor python3-meh-gui webkitgtk3 wpa_supplicant yelp yelp-libs yelp-xsl While I can easily see that hunspell is not needed in dom0, for packages named "lib*" this much more delicate ... so, according to you Marek, is there something important I should not delete? Thanks, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e85a6f01-afca-b39b-bff5-37a5c0ae8aad%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 03:15:59PM +0300, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA256 > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:23:22AM +0300, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > >>> After installing qubes 3.2 looked into dom0 updates. > >>> > >>> Found some that I possibly ok to remove: > >>> > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires tigervnc-server-minimal > >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-gui > >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui > >>> no package requires initial-setup-gui > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ > >> > >> It is used during fist system startup. Later can be removed. > >> > >>> Also, do I really need this in Dom0: > >>> > >>> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh > >>> openssh-askpass-7.2p2-3.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh-askpass > >>> no package requires openssh-askpass > >>> [root@dom0 olli]# > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Also I've Network Manager in Dom0 - why - it is designed never have > >>> networking. It is left by anaconda - setup program. Why not to delete > >>> it? > >> > >> See above. > >> > >>> lli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i net > >>> NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > >>> NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > >>> NetworkManager-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > >>> NetworkManager-glib-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > >>> glib-networking-2.46.1-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-5.fc23.x86_64 > >>> nettle-3.2-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> netcf-libs-0.2.8-3.fc23.x86_64 > >>> NetworkManager-team-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > >>> libnfnetlink-1.0.1-7.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-wifi > >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-libnm > >>> no package requires NetworkManager-libnm > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-glib > >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> nm-connection-editor-1.0.10-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nm-connection-editor > >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-core > >>> anaconda-tui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-tui > >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> initial-setup-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup > >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> initial-setup-launcher-1.0-1.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui > >>> no package requires initial-setup-gui > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-launcher > >>> no package requires initial-setup-launcher > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-team > >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nettle > >>> no package requires nettle > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires libnfnetlink > >>> no package requires libnfnetlink > >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ > >>> > >>> from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related > >>> package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? > >> > >> Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose > >> additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that list > >> before confirming. > > > Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? > > May I add this (and above sentence as subject) as a feature request in github? > > We should not have non-required packages in Dom0 by default, right? Yes, good idea. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYuZfOAAoJENuP0xzK19cs+toH/i2xDVPufQry6fe1DZYqGmep GXGRxg0nx5U1VQL7+NoKwnoum3bh3n0jvNr57WNMdAoE1obD9oZO1jF6wGqkF6Rw z7mOWSOmFUAe8LN5WqWSauywEFavLxf09PrjXUdJt6wjDJ5gQM+JChXUKwNsTsoL vlfx1cpeG4/dcB/Klm6KeIQ7h3hyCeQGtrvw0ZhevHQpbzQWT3ldto8ChKj0DlPo ts536c/zpFkVc/uL84o/tSr/VtcncLewH/U4TBuYZxuGenKYpLoPihm3pcsZa+Jm Czd8wktZsmp8fGaAzQMNeHnCx+0r9oom6x4WlP3HQl+hpkUVHVKujzFz3kYtqcY= =3HAH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170303162030.GA13371%40mail-itl. For more options, visit ht
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:23:22AM +0300, Oleg Artemiev wrote: >>> After installing qubes 3.2 looked into dom0 updates. >>> >>> Found some that I possibly ok to remove: >>> >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires tigervnc-server-minimal >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-gui >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui >>> no package requires initial-setup-gui >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ >> >> It is used during fist system startup. Later can be removed. >> >>> Also, do I really need this in Dom0: >>> >>> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh >>> openssh-askpass-7.2p2-3.fc23.x86_64 >>> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh-askpass >>> no package requires openssh-askpass >>> [root@dom0 olli]# >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Also I've Network Manager in Dom0 - why - it is designed never have >>> networking. It is left by anaconda - setup program. Why not to delete >>> it? >> >> See above. >> >>> lli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i net >>> NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >>> NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >>> NetworkManager-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >>> NetworkManager-glib-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >>> glib-networking-2.46.1-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-5.fc23.x86_64 >>> nettle-3.2-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> netcf-libs-0.2.8-3.fc23.x86_64 >>> NetworkManager-team-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >>> libnfnetlink-1.0.1-7.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-wifi >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-libnm >>> no package requires NetworkManager-libnm >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-glib >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> nm-connection-editor-1.0.10-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nm-connection-editor >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-core >>> anaconda-tui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-tui >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> initial-setup-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> initial-setup-launcher-1.0-1.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui >>> no package requires initial-setup-gui >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-launcher >>> no package requires initial-setup-launcher >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-team >>> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nettle >>> no package requires nettle >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires libnfnetlink >>> no package requires libnfnetlink >>> [olli@dom0 ~]$ >>> >>> from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related >>> package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? >> >> Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose >> additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that list >> before confirming. > Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? May I add this (and above sentence as subject) as a feature request in github? We should not have non-required packages in Dom0 by default, right? -- Bye.Olli. gpg --search-keys grey_olli , use key w/ fingerprint below: Key fingerprint = 9901 6808 768C 8B89 544C 9BE0 49F9 5A46 2B98 147E Blog keys (the blog is mostly in Russian): http://grey-olli.livejournal.com/tag/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABunX6OZiHRa67N7g%3DQTzX3%3DUnRum1fLYz9fdEpjBNwiFQFeGw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:23:22AM +0300, Oleg Artemiev wrote: >> After installing qubes 3.2 looked into dom0 updates. >> >> Found some that I possibly ok to remove: >> >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires tigervnc-server-minimal >> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-gui >> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui >> no package requires initial-setup-gui >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ > > It is used during fist system startup. Later can be removed. > >> Also, do I really need this in Dom0: >> >> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh >> openssh-askpass-7.2p2-3.fc23.x86_64 >> [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh-askpass >> no package requires openssh-askpass >> [root@dom0 olli]# >> >> ? >> >> Also I've Network Manager in Dom0 - why - it is designed never have >> networking. It is left by anaconda - setup program. Why not to delete >> it? > > See above. > >> lli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i net >> NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >> NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >> NetworkManager-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >> NetworkManager-glib-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >> glib-networking-2.46.1-1.fc23.x86_64 >> libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-5.fc23.x86_64 >> nettle-3.2-1.fc23.x86_64 >> netcf-libs-0.2.8-3.fc23.x86_64 >> NetworkManager-team-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 >> libnfnetlink-1.0.1-7.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-wifi >> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-libnm >> no package requires NetworkManager-libnm >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-glib >> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> nm-connection-editor-1.0.10-1.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nm-connection-editor >> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-core >> anaconda-tui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-tui >> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> initial-setup-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup >> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >> initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 >> initial-setup-launcher-1.0-1.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui >> no package requires initial-setup-gui >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-launcher >> no package requires initial-setup-launcher >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-team >> anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nettle >> no package requires nettle >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires libnfnetlink >> no package requires libnfnetlink >> [olli@dom0 ~]$ >> >> from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related >> package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? > > Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose > additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that list > before confirming. Shouldn't those be removed by default as a postinstall step? -- Bye.Olli. gpg --search-keys grey_olli , use key w/ fingerprint below: Key fingerprint = 9901 6808 768C 8B89 544C 9BE0 49F9 5A46 2B98 147E Blog keys (the blog is mostly in Russian): http://grey-olli.livejournal.com/tag/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABunX6Pj4h-Gjimd9VeXoJGjpE10pjSpisJgtE%3DipMkV3vvNAg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:23:22AM +0300, Oleg Artemiev wrote: > After installing qubes 3.2 looked into dom0 updates. > > Found some that I possibly ok to remove: > > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires tigervnc-server-minimal > anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-gui > initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui > no package requires initial-setup-gui > [olli@dom0 ~]$ It is used during fist system startup. Later can be removed. > Also, do I really need this in Dom0: > > [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh > openssh-askpass-7.2p2-3.fc23.x86_64 > [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh-askpass > no package requires openssh-askpass > [root@dom0 olli]# > > ? > > Also I've Network Manager in Dom0 - why - it is designed never have > networking. It is left by anaconda - setup program. Why not to delete > it? See above. > lli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i net > NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > NetworkManager-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > NetworkManager-glib-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > glib-networking-2.46.1-1.fc23.x86_64 > libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-5.fc23.x86_64 > nettle-3.2-1.fc23.x86_64 > netcf-libs-0.2.8-3.fc23.x86_64 > NetworkManager-team-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 > libnfnetlink-1.0.1-7.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-wifi > anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-libnm > no package requires NetworkManager-libnm > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-glib > anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > nm-connection-editor-1.0.10-1.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nm-connection-editor > anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-core > anaconda-tui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-tui > anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > initial-setup-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup > initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 > initial-setup-launcher-1.0-1.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui > no package requires initial-setup-gui > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-launcher > no package requires initial-setup-launcher > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-team > anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nettle > no package requires nettle > [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires libnfnetlink > no package requires libnfnetlink > [olli@dom0 ~]$ > > from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related > package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? Yes. You can start with 'dnf remove initial-setup-gui' - it will propose additional packages not needed anymore. But carefully review that list before confirming. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYuHoEAAoJENuP0xzK19csTcsIAIjwVAaWfPUOr4Fl01Dg60rA OERnEoiFtEBwjPsHksDLuA1EiNWFUg8Rzh9hNtG0KlPjbBxNct8fzMGlfPtn8W4j 1ZXMaif+RaQiEYWDECSFTOL4g7rWcZ2Pk7blJ5ytPFCIGQ1aaivlA7EvPBPkOQlb +2vQ4zl6f0VenDbFX8gB9fInjySbMeBefMDe9HHQW3cdOn0cSix53WUqZ2KZ0W1f UBVm6nSqZGA49bPcXrs/YtD1sz+PED0GinW/xsxAStxRL5ao1ZNVwyzjLMWyeWwr 0rEMEkXaMLlvVQHNqenKEXODmPlHcGL1OjgL1zi0pe/Sh2xi2rS3Q0Ab68yzF1Q= =FnPv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170302200109.GB2506%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] do I really need these packages in dom0 :?
After installing qubes 3.2 looked into dom0 updates. Found some that I possibly ok to remove: [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires tigervnc-server-minimal anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-gui initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui no package requires initial-setup-gui [olli@dom0 ~]$ Also, do I really need this in Dom0: [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh openssh-askpass-7.2p2-3.fc23.x86_64 [root@dom0 olli]# rpm -q --whatrequires openssh-askpass no package requires openssh-askpass [root@dom0 olli]# ? Also I've Network Manager in Dom0 - why - it is designed never have networking. It is left by anaconda - setup program. Why not to delete it? lli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep -i net NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 NetworkManager-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 NetworkManager-glib-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 glib-networking-2.46.1-1.fc23.x86_64 libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-5.fc23.x86_64 nettle-3.2-1.fc23.x86_64 netcf-libs-0.2.8-3.fc23.x86_64 NetworkManager-team-1.0.12-2.fc23.x86_64 libnfnetlink-1.0.1-7.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-wifi anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-libnm no package requires NetworkManager-libnm [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-glib anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 nm-connection-editor-1.0.10-1.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nm-connection-editor anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-core anaconda-tui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 anaconda-gui-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires anaconda-tui anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 initial-setup-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 initial-setup-gui-0.3.37-1.fc23.x86_64 initial-setup-launcher-1.0-1.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-gui no package requires initial-setup-gui [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires initial-setup-launcher no package requires initial-setup-launcher [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires NetworkManager-team anaconda-core-23.19.10-4.fc23.x86_64 [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires nettle no package requires nettle [olli@dom0 ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires libnfnetlink no package requires libnfnetlink [olli@dom0 ~]$ from above only netcf-libs is required indirectly by xen related package. So is it safe to drop all other from above w/ rpm -e ? -- Bye.Olli. gpg --search-keys grey_olli , use key w/ fingerprint below: Key fingerprint = 9901 6808 768C 8B89 544C 9BE0 49F9 5A46 2B98 147E Blog keys (the blog is mostly in Russian): http://grey-olli.livejournal.com/tag/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABunX6PvoftmsNpoDJ3sAjtgxd%2Bma55Mnq5aRQUPAqE%2Bp4HpOg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
