Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
Andrew David Wong: > On 2016-12-15 05:40, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB >>> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. >>> >>> Why that high? > >> since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to >> much but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did >> set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > >> Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > > > The default initial memory value should be 400 MB. At least, that's > what mine is. > >>> Have you disabled dynamic memory management for this VM? > >> No > >>> Otherwise it needs to be only that high to allow booting the VM, >>> until dynamic memory management kicks in. > > > > For future reference, there was a similar report on Whonix.org last month. Initial memory adjusted to 3.4 GB. Some debug info included - unresolved. https://forums.whonix.org/t/dvm-fails-to-start-after-whonix-update-dist-upgrade/3109/4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a08a6400-40f2-7157-9cee-3584f9e6b1a2%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/15/16 05:58, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:49:18AM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> On 2016-12-15 05:45, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:40:00PM +, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: >>> >> When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: >> ~2800MB > >> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. > > Why that high? >>> since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to much but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). >>> Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? >>> >>> Ah, I forgot it's adjusted at qvm-create-default-dvm call time. >>> Based on memory usage inside of VM. > >> I don't understand. Isn't the target TemplateVM shut down when >> qvm-create-default-dvm is called? How could it be using any memory >> while it's shut down? > > It's about whonix-ws-dvm - it is started to create savefile out of it. > On 12/15/16 06:05, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > This is not about the initial memory of the used templateVM (in this > case whonix-ws) but about whonix-ws-dvm. (qubes manger -> show interal VMs) > Ok, but why would a DVM template require so much memory just upon starting up? Is that expected for some reason? - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUsvSAAoJENtN07w5UDAwC/oP/igbdy+faDGuiLYcN0Gxq1iw 932f5TbcRshc11HVrhSLFlixs0roXE3ayW7aOVk8o5pN8Yf5wC4YNQCeRkoLWveT DfyNsXNFnP+DuP/6yZWQPA8df7NaVea+Sqqk+Hh7TyyP4SmDobGtMx+HKjb9KWa3 UvMF+HckEFLO2YS/aUffMy63lKIHuLR8YQYTseiYcjQ5uadKLWaCWmcXBNONqLAR /Ong4l9QKczlIIpzB59WN7SSAWzr8s5ARiO94d9fefxAolATUaFOngHQFAIdKCn2 ZRtXlIIHdCD9THwWAruGwtpR1o+8PkJ+ml+XiUq02+rdolLGV3StZs/DfrB1kZv6 gTIQPjhkY/pL4ERrjoOtgbRz47MA3PP7IGJrBT3ZUVqfep/V/Aw/gWKChMUJR7Y6 ScVfbKHh7B+T5/PGylN/CMU1M97tTHawNEbCjQ+DepXcvTOcdqbum68KhzgdAa7f sdi/72FPKjOfllP+WgnCEdau/hD2hkN72CkHmrHXYm3E2mcVX7j8wuTXWd0K1CRX ldfCQcm/n0m6YV7z5vUlShJgtYiy+H9pVzZ8q6rFRZhxteS9lM/9REljxJi0VQJY r3R764828FmvnnFEX/g0lNDivWYcgI+CDWJUng5IXNkhd9guWdNjLLlurRv6vkKy +ehHz/h20Ptb8dAD0a0t =eOC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c74986ee-e797-e1dd-ccfe-c97296bd817f%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB >>> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. >>> >>> Why that high? > >> since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to much >> but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did set it to >> 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > >> Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > > Ah, I forgot it's adjusted at qvm-create-default-dvm call time. Based on > memory usage inside of VM. It looks something use that much memory in > Whonix-ws based DVM... Try running 'top' there (switch to sorting by > memory with '>' key). OK I played around some more and when setting initial memory to 400MB it gets only increased to >420MB, that should be fine. When starting a xterm-dvm 'top' says only 315MB memory are used. I consider this as solved and I will reset it to 400MB from time to time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dfb65df7-990a-b340-901a-b58efa31ff09%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
Andrew David Wong: > I don't understand. Isn't the target TemplateVM shut down when > qvm-create-default-dvm is called? How could it be using any memory > while it's shut down? This is not about the initial memory of the used templateVM (in this case whonix-ws) but about whonix-ws-dvm. (qubes manger -> show interal VMs) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5b4d6550-be8c-25ab-c39c-906ef6519539%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:49:18AM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 2016-12-15 05:45, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:40:00PM +, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > > > When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: > ~2800MB > >>> > I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. > >>> > >>> Why that high? > > > >> since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it > >> to much but I just found out that something changes that value. > >> (I did set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > > > >> Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > > > > Ah, I forgot it's adjusted at qvm-create-default-dvm call time. > > Based on memory usage inside of VM. > > I don't understand. Isn't the target TemplateVM shut down when > qvm-create-default-dvm is called? How could it be using any memory > while it's shut down? It's about whonix-ws-dvm - it is started to create savefile out of it. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYUqGHAAoJENuP0xzK19csIZAH/AwKtI/f3s6q16MAL2CU4Zj9 qaaRtOpYn3fkOb5c7CDUdfxM7gD63BqR6DE8xGFBsAbRUOcH0K8ezOi80cRoifG0 oHmQuDKgs1hWG4awY/WZs/zcIYJlACp1AQC+vlNd8e4I+du4CQ88zwC+6Re2br3a xnsNm7lcAgvPvGEoONxecrmteMCNVO73yOVmVAfW+ZGx0/CW9qrg4oQX0eqE0bk0 WD8qd5bcOu5rc3VneYuXzAzhaFhNsoB+jsYGoSgN/WFI9nUDYZSdeBEwqfXdXSYJ mzUtfjx8zefIPMfi01gOvPgx6bY1cSM9Aic2lTnkhYYZxtc4FT+QwOZhbxMWD/o= =Zgkg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161215135832.GP1239%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-15 05:45, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:40:00PM +, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB >>> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. >>> >>> Why that high? > >> since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it >> to much but I just found out that something changes that value. >> (I did set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > >> Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > > Ah, I forgot it's adjusted at qvm-create-default-dvm call time. > Based on memory usage inside of VM. I don't understand. Isn't the target TemplateVM shut down when qvm-create-default-dvm is called? How could it be using any memory while it's shut down? > It looks something use that much memory in Whonix-ws based DVM... > Try running 'top' there (switch to sorting by memory with '>' > key). > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUp9dAAoJENtN07w5UDAwUcsQAIceeQ+APPDNleqeR91l/KBA LGwiLuAXJkBg7WhvkbjujF/sn6xXwk+DOOlq8hg79Ug/rZooEPqgHxuQdY5qcAZS 5YCCv879IdGqeSD/D5zDG+iNddnfVIE1k2dGnFU2jZ3AV7kQH+TqU7Vp5HAktaTd VA/+twCB0+DrgsyhcaPJguRSEle/0PYsYbjPL9o1uV03AtuAMIQD26nSf33K9ERu YZi7pZif7tN7C/INurTGFGaORoQzBqFErpLBN5xBrdrZ4/JkF2LsUzD36qVqZvLx SfnOpzh9oejYqkxH3ZcPmM4sU8RHp40DXz4u9otVoeGQmPCrQZAwBw7cFP/t/qiF fU3MX+llM1hz/tp457CAIuG3YyimPTSr2VAfAWCxzReH4K9NrnEaxTK5Z/UGvP5w qXTA+ja3xUCZ9rsBvoa7qoWmCE98zRhyQm5twSQfneHCe6Q9RxhohU//lDbeR537 U3tW2bVnl6+ZWlB6W1UMoYyIwgLkakijN/megjPZ7h2BYNMYQCApDMBepsVVMrAs 4lwRA8Rd0xisana5nK/mK/JIAgQq/GHBuJGqx0ztbr2bMFm0FybT4/OhsLCszrIZ SkPfyMhMAjaFC4cqIECiC7sEsJu8e8CmgyaU/Zm6eHJpUdbqp47LGREdgdmUonEX dI25jiZEY4Y76ZSgJAAq =LLf7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d55f8dad-ef80-9165-7afc-6f198cfcdf6d%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-15 05:40, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > >>> When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB >> >>> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. >> >> Why that high? > > since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to > much but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did > set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > > Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > The default initial memory value should be 400 MB. At least, that's what mine is. >> Have you disabled dynamic memory management for this VM? > > No > >> Otherwise it needs to be only that high to allow booting the VM, >> until dynamic memory management kicks in. > > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUp6rAAoJENtN07w5UDAwOcIP/jH+xCUjsbX4Ipl52+4bvgv5 GXYalAUjMktdHLKOVLniS+4BpGfcKecufRtz68FEZOhnpKmuB1icSlPM7Z6Kq/3a dmwKcjdoKrLVDRFuGfTxbTTrXOTmiRa5rE/eU0pxDUmRnqtFemM1+3f88mYXrL2t eCz7FFpHNjDTUTzpmv8Iphi4y1TvzaUX25KypP63Jeb6JsNLnrW3/kBSAB0q2j0K RUCUP5QOuTMh2tcONvIXqTqatm24SIRmruHrvzmCWly6kLOigINU280TDInW8nKI ht/lU+oVq4yD5bXtV+Dnv3OQcVn3aUz48n1d2eESWgcK7s0NLjfBW8my+kVJVUs3 O79yOFcFKb+UPZB/L+DNTnx6+/SJq4YVZ7RbZYqGrU+lslZ5wRKH6BTcXqA3qX3N GyAASaQuBta7xnuMLzPSFEHOM9IYh4S8KYCxWYEwcU4/5yM2h0LNk8VnwYmuEl3R v694TYwsed6WiXLbSkhuIbhmyYDzP/YOQ1u37y5ozNAKM1v5Z2NB4vZL1xaAKsoM QEWom5u7mQMtgP/oYtSSi6sCyjtvE9sP8ViEjBgNoC7H7UhdVGDTkg5la15RTkIJ zypsiUlUK73o9pGsd2rep1gWy20jhTPoHtF36dWfKEVtFIHBw7mHnbygAW90tbPw RoYLDEsm2KkHQo5rDYr+ =OUQ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3cb95221-aef1-302d-d0ff-5e7382f7bc64%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:40:00PM +, Joonas Lehtonen wrote: > > >> When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB > > > >> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. > > > > Why that high? > > since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to much > but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did set it to > 1000 it is now at >1500MB). > > Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? Ah, I forgot it's adjusted at qvm-create-default-dvm call time. Based on memory usage inside of VM. It looks something use that much memory in Whonix-ws based DVM... Try running 'top' there (switch to sorting by memory with '>' key). - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYUp6DAAoJENuP0xzK19csUmsH/iW+5j0CZKbJY3q8snfRZgag A+UaXXuDP96JFyw52fbcmQp/iOuu+Me7PKWces+GVrnPsSr4LkGkmrwIsTvOnRlc oCqoIakzseoTjUV4wHdev8tpboRVTzzfAAUFTtna1ULzOKvZpDCcSaztimXyQ/LZ Lz5Zk6RLiBmSyaXzdM197XvTfB1eh7uTRCPctKvO1w62a1aTRGDL9wfl0KmTVusp zOyGqOgrYEolRLWQQO8ugizjzN959CP6n9KVPTzBUDsOKdwQcKDBCQ4ohYJPBEKh GvRti/MEXxFMtoGk/Z2lX2jAoVDMSqLW8h5Sc0IFriHgekFgUPYfdiWW4+kezs4= =cXCm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161215134540.GO1239%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] qvm-create-default-dvm modifying initial memory value?
>> When I look at whonix-ws-dvm "initial memory" it says: ~2800MB > >> I changed that to 1000MB and everything works again. > > Why that high? since its preset value was over 2800 I didn't want to reduce it to much but I just found out that something changes that value. (I did set it to 1000 it is now at >1500MB). Is this a bug? Or can I disable this auto-adjustment? > Have you disabled dynamic memory management for this VM? No > Otherwise it needs to be only that high to allow booting the VM, until > dynamic memory management kicks in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b5042939-0501-4624-60c6-072c3adb6b66%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
