Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-11-19 04:48, Achim Patzner wrote: > Am 19.11.2016 um 12:58 schrieb Andrew David Wong: >>> These requirements are probably the worst you can do for corporate >> users; they prefer "standard hardware"; even I would rather stop using >> Qubes

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-11-16 02:35, Achim Patzner wrote: > Am 15.11.2016 um 14:46 schrieb Andrew David Wong: >> If you plan to be using the same machines for Qubes 4.x, you should also >> take into consideration the updated requirements for Qubes-certified >>

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread raahelps
the desktop mobo i bought was because it had txt and vt-d specified as enabled by default in the manual. So I didn't even need the picture lol. but imo thats what to look for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread raahelps
You don't always have to buy the newest computer. I wouldn't recommend doing that for a linux system. I built an i5 desktop for qubes I expect it to last for years to come. I would say a i7 for laptop though, just check what people say about the model on linux forums. or what they have

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread raahelps
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 5:36:06 AM UTC-5, Achim Patzner wrote: > Am 15.11.2016 um 14:46 schrieb Andrew David Wong: > > If you plan to be using the same machines for Qubes 4.x, you should > > also take into consideration the updated requirements for > > Qubes-certified hardware, which

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread raahelps
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 5:02:36 AM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > I have purchased systems that had just that but the proprietary bios > still did not properly implement the iommu. > > This is considered a "pro" level technology and you are generally SOL if > you buy a consumer level

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread pixel fairy
so far dell is the only company thats said yes to this, but no one ive talked to has actually tried qubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
If you really do belong to some massive enterprise I am sure your dell/hpe/whatever rep will be able to give you a yes/no answer on what laptops support IOMMU. There is no "uncertainty", if it supports linux plus IOMMU and SLAT or RVI (any recent cpu) it supports qubes. Ask your rep and get it

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 16.11.2016 um 11:53 schrieb taii...@gmx.com: The "certified" program is stupid in its current form I agree but what is stopping you from buying a dell business or hpe machine with iommu/TPM and using that? The uncertainty whether it will work with Qubes 4.0 at all as it is very improbable

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
The "certified" program is stupid in its current form I agree but what is stopping you from buying a dell business or hpe machine with iommu/TPM and using that? Nobody says you have to buy stuff from whatever company gives kickbacks. (purism "coreboot" with FSP is just a shimboot loader, FSP

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 15.11.2016 um 14:46 schrieb Andrew David Wong: If you plan to be using the same machines for Qubes 4.x, you should also take into consideration the updated requirements for Qubes-certified hardware, which will go into effect for 4.x:

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I have purchased systems that had just that but the proprietary bios still did not properly implement the iommu. This is considered a "pro" level technology and you are generally SOL if you buy a consumer level laptop (even some "enterprise" ones) - If you don't care about ME the best choice

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-16 Thread Salmiakki
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 2:46:51 PM UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-11-15 03:52, pixel fairy wrote: > > management is interested in qubes, but still need windows for some tasks. > > this means buying a laptop that comes with

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread raahelps
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 10:45:06 PM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 7:44:53 PM UTC-5, pixel fairy wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > > > > > As far as I'm aware, any laptop with VT-x should be able

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread raahelps
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 7:44:53 PM UTC-5, pixel fairy wrote: > On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > > > As far as I'm aware, any laptop with VT-x should be able to handle a > > Windows VMs, and in general, most laptops comes with Windows. So,

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread pixel fairy
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > As far as I'm aware, any laptop with VT-x should be able to handle a Windows > VMs, and in general, most laptops comes with Windows. So, you're basically > just looking for a laptop that has good Qubes

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread Unman
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 03:39:15PM +0100, Zrubi wrote: > On 11/15/2016 02:46 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > > Licensing is a tricky issue. I'm not sure whether the Windows license > > allows you to clone Windows VMs or to run multiple Windows AppVMs from a > > single Windows TemplateHVM.

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread Zrubi
On 11/15/2016 02:46 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > Licensing is a tricky issue. I'm not sure whether the Windows license allows > you to clone Windows VMs or to run multiple Windows AppVMs from a single > Windows TemplateHVM. That's a question for the lawyers. Maybe others around > here have

Re: [qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-11-15 03:52, pixel fairy wrote: > management is interested in qubes, but still need windows for some tasks. > this means buying a laptop that comes with windows, but still can run qubes > well. any recommendations? any license issues to be

[qubes-users] recommendation for a laptop to use windows in qubes?

2016-11-15 Thread pixel fairy
management is interested in qubes, but still need windows for some tasks. this means buying a laptop that comes with windows, but still can run qubes well. any recommendations? any license issues to be aware of? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups