Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-12-07 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Andrew David Wong: Since I never planned to use the voice features, I simply found a sewing needle, inserted it into the mic hole, and used a flat piece of hard plastic on the other end to apply moderate force. There was a single "click" sound. After that, voice commands were no longer

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-28 Thread Andrew David Wong
On 11/27/20 7:08 PM, Steve Coleman wrote: [...] 1. TV's are often encoded to deliberately export use intelligence data to be utilized by the advertisers and ratings organizations. The camera and microphone, if installed, are actually designed and used to watch and listen to the family watching

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-27 Thread River~~
hi Steve Steve: > Without a Nation State being involved, the most likely threat would come > from a permiscuous WiFi in the TV auto-connecting to any open networks in > your area. Good point. Which links to my thought if you wanted to keep a Qubes box secure it would be a really BAD idea to plug

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-27 Thread Steve Coleman
On Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 6:01 PM Alex Smirnoff wrote: > Assuming poor software quality of typical TV firmware and codecs, DVB > should be pretty easy exploitable. However, I doubt a compromised TV could > do serious harm to your computer via HDMI. Speaking on your demo.. there is > a lot of factors

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-27 Thread Alex Smirnoff
Assuming poor software quality of typical TV firmware and codecs, DVB should be pretty easy exploitable. However, I doubt a compromised TV could do serious harm to your computer via HDMI. Speaking on your demo.. there is a lot of factors to be involved. Chaining a Xen exploit to Chrome might be

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-27 Thread Steve Coleman
Without a Nation State being involved, the most likely threat would come from a permiscuous WiFi in the TV auto-connecting to any open networks in your area. If you are sure that is not the case then it should be 'safe enough' for most people. Side channel attacks take tools, skills, and physical

Re: [qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-26 Thread Andrew David Wong
On 11/25/20 6:31 AM, River~~ wrote: Hi all In the days of CRT monitors one way the security of a computer system could be compromised non-intrusively (ie without amending the installed code) was by picking up the radio-frequency leakage from the tube in the monitor. This could only be done from

[qubes-users] Are "smart" monitors/TVs a security issue?

2020-11-25 Thread River~~
Hi all In the days of CRT monitors one way the security of a computer system could be compromised non-intrusively (ie without amending the installed code) was by picking up the radio-frequency leakage from the tube in the monitor. This could only be done from near by, but where possible it