Re: [qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

2020-09-28 Thread Stumpy

On 2020-09-28 09:15, unman wrote:

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:54:46PM -0400, Stumpy wrote:

On 2020-09-27 21:42, Stumpy wrote:

On 2020-09-27 19:59, Stumpy wrote:

The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal
with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or
app finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that
didnt help. Thoughts?


The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an
app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it
possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important
info off of it?


new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in this
case.
I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and viola! it
opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 template and,
no go, nothing would start?
what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?



What have you done to the template?


AFAIK nothing.


There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
mistake) Qubes packages etc. 


well anything is possible but i am pretty sure i did not delete any 
packages lately, qubes or otherwise.



This is why it's generally a good idea to
keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
necessary.


noted.

Regardless, i thought in the past i was able to reinstall or install 
another but now that is giving me problems?



[bob@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall 
qubes-template-debian-10
WARNING: Replacing a template will erase all files in template's /home 
and /rw !
usage: qvm-shutdown [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--all] [--exclude 
EXCLUDE]

[--wait] [--timeout TIMEOUT] [--force]
[VMNAME [VMNAME ...]]
qvm-shutdown: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Using sys-whonix as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take 
some time...
fedora/metalink | 5.8 kB 
00:00
fedora  | 4.3 kB 
00:00
fedora/primary_db   |  26 MB 
04:48
qubes-dom0-current/metalink | 2.7 kB 
00:00
qubes-dom0-current  | 3.8 kB 
00:00
qubes-dom0-current/primary_db   | 3.9 MB 
00:51
qubes-templates-itl/metalink| 2.7 kB 
00:00
qubes-templates-itl | 3.0 kB 
00:00
qubes-templates-itl/primary_db  |  21 kB 
00:00
updates/metalink| 5.5 kB 
00:00
updates | 4.7 kB 
00:00
updates/primary_db  |  12 MB 
02:02

--> Running transaction check
---> Package qubes-template-debian-10.noarch 0:4.0.1-201910230150 will 
be reinstalled

--> Finished Dependency Resolution
https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/qubes/repo/yum/r4.0/templates-itl/rpm/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm: 
[Errno 14] curl#56 - "GnuTLS recv error (-9): Error decoding the 
received TLS packet."

Trying other mirror.
qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm | 840 MB 
237:54
Successfully verified 
/var/lib/qubes/dom0-updates/packages/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm

usage: qvm-prefs [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--help-properties]
 [--hide-default] [--get] [--set] [--default]
 VMNAME [PROPERTY] [VALUE]
qvm-prefs: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 
 25 
MB/s |  26 kB 00:00

No match for argument: qubes-template-debian-10
Error: Nothing to do.

huh?


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Re: [qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

2020-09-28 Thread unman
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:54:46PM -0400, Stumpy wrote:
> On 2020-09-27 21:42, Stumpy wrote:
> > On 2020-09-27 19:59, Stumpy wrote:
> > > The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal
> > > with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or
> > > app finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that
> > > didnt help. Thoughts?
> > > 
> > The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an
> > app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it
> > possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important
> > info off of it?
> > 
> new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in this
> case.
> I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and viola! it
> opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 template and,
> no go, nothing would start?
> what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?
> 

What have you done to the template?
There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
mistake) Qubes packages etc. This is why it's generally a good idea to
keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
necessary.

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Re: [qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

2020-09-27 Thread Stumpy

On 2020-09-27 21:42, Stumpy wrote:

On 2020-09-27 19:59, Stumpy wrote:
The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal 
with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or app 
finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that didnt 
help. Thoughts?


The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an 
app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it 
possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important 
info off of it?


new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in 
this case.
I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and 
viola! it opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 
template and, no go, nothing would start?

what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?

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Re: [qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

2020-09-27 Thread Stumpy

On 2020-09-27 19:59, Stumpy wrote:
The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal with 
qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or app 
finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that didnt 
help. Thoughts?


The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an 
app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it 
possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important 
info off of it?


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[qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

2020-09-27 Thread Stumpy
The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal with 
qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or app 
finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that didnt 
help. Thoughts?


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