Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-12 Thread Unman
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 08:01:23AM -0800, qubesnewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Another update:
> 
> After pilfering a spare AMD Radeon 5850 video card from one of my other 
> computers and installing it into the new system, I was able to install Qubes 
> 3.2 successfully. I saw some video anomalies with 4k, but once I downgraded 
> to 2540x1600 resolution it worked like a charm. It looks like Qubes/Xen 
> doesn't like the on-board INTEL graphics on my motherboard.
> 
> A new problem has surfaced, however. I was unable to enable the root account 
> during setup even though I entered a password for it. I unchecked the "lock 
> root account" checkbox, but it kept re-checking itself. I am unsure how to 
> enable it, or if it's even possible.
> 
> Everything else seems to be working fine, but I am still planning to get a 
> newer video card, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have 
> read that AMD/Radeon cards work best, and I was looking at the AMD Radeon 
> RX400 series or R9 300 series because they both offer Ubuntu/Linux drivers.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your responses.
> 
> -- 

I think that's the best route to take - there are issues with some cards
and with the text installer - what you've done is the accepted
workaround.

On the question of the root account, I assume you have seen the comment
I think that's the best route to take - there are issues with some cards
and with the text insta;ller - what you've done is the accepted
workaround.

On the question of the root account, I assume you have seen the comment
in  the docs: www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo at bottom.
In a default install the root/user distinction is pretty meaningless, as
user has access to all the configuration of the Qubes machine, and has
full access to all the data held on it. This is really difficult for
some people to understand. (You can, of course, change this policy in
dom0 if you wish, trading convenience for a small gain
in security.)

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-12 Thread qubesnewbie17
Another update:

After pilfering a spare AMD Radeon 5850 video card from one of my other 
computers and installing it into the new system, I was able to install Qubes 
3.2 successfully. I saw some video anomalies with 4k, but once I downgraded to 
2540x1600 resolution it worked like a charm. It looks like Qubes/Xen doesn't 
like the on-board INTEL graphics on my motherboard.

A new problem has surfaced, however. I was unable to enable the root account 
during setup even though I entered a password for it. I unchecked the "lock 
root account" checkbox, but it kept re-checking itself. I am unsure how to 
enable it, or if it's even possible.

Everything else seems to be working fine, but I am still planning to get a 
newer video card, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have read 
that AMD/Radeon cards work best, and I was looking at the AMD Radeon RX400 
series or R9 300 series because they both offer Ubuntu/Linux drivers.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-12 Thread qubesnewbie17
Update:

Today I updated a few more settings in my BIOS (which for some reason got reset 
after the Fedora install), and I tried installing again.  This time, I got sent 
to the text-based install after seeing a message about "X startup failed - 
falling back to text mode"

I repeatedly encountered the following messages when trying to select 
destination media (for all options available):
"Storage configuration failed: auto partition failed"
"Encryption requested for LUKS device but no encryption key specified" 

I went down the road of investigating the "Rescue Qubes" option, but quickly 
discovered that's really only for an already installed OS, so I backed out of 
that.

I have a second PC that is older, and doesn't have an SSD drive so I knew it 
wouldn't work so well with Qubes but I tried installing anyway. I noticed a big 
difference in the startup routines between both systems. In the older system 
(which has a EVGA GeForce GTX780 Hydro Copper video card installed), when the 
installer started I had a nice graphical interface with a big "Q" on it. In the 
custom system, I see a varying colored blue bar crawling across the bottom of 
the screen with the text "Generic 23" on the bottom right.

At this point, I'm thinking my only option is to install a video card in the 
new system and try installing again. Does anyone have any suggestions for a 
card that will support a 4k monitor?

Thank you, I appreciate any and all responses.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-11 Thread qubesnewbie17
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 4:03:53 PM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:38:29 AM UTC-5, qubesn...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> > I am attempting to install Qubes, version 3.2, never having used any prior 
> > versions.
> > 
> > My computer is custom-built with the following components:
> > 
> > CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K Quad-core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 Processor
> > Motherboard: GIGABYTE Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 (rev 1.0)
> > RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB
> > Primary HDD: Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB 3-D Vertical Internal SSD
> > CD-ROM: Pioneer 16x BD-R Blu-ray Burner (BDR-209DBK)
> > 
> > I tried installing using the following types of media:
> > 
> > -ISO burned to DVD
> > -ISO burned to USB using Rufus in Windows and selecting dd mode
> > -ISO burned to USB using dd in Debian
> > 
> > When none of these worked, I started searching this newsgroup for similar 
> > problems.  I found one suggestion that I tried, which was to add 
> > "GRUB_CMDLINUX_XEN_DEFAULT iommu-no-igfx" to grub.cfg - I could not do this 
> > one because I could not get the USB device out of read-only mode
> > 
> > I removed the "quiet" option from the install, but still no success
> > 
> > Afterward, I disabled VT-d in BIOS, but again, no success
> > 
> > Every time, I get the splash screen with the options for installation. For 
> > any option I pick, it gets to the point where I believe Xen is launching 
> > the graphics for the installer. At that point, the screen goes completely 
> > black.  In the case where I use the DVD, the drive stops spinning, and 
> > nothing else happens.
> > 
> > I am at a loss, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> hmm  tried a diff usb stick,  checked the signatures of the downloaded iso, 
> used only onboard gpu unplug pcie one. check gpu bios options,unplug all 
> other usb devices,  check mobo for options,  update mobo bios,  does the 
> baremetal fedora 24 installer work?
> 
> That board looks like it should work good with qubes,  if I can think of 
> anything else I'll post back.
> 
> Also

Hi,

Thank you for writing back.  I have not tried a different USB stick, as I don't 
have any others large enough for the image, however I have downloaded the ISO / 
checked all signatures & digests on two separate occasions.  They checked out 
as good both times.  I also burned the ISO to 2 different DVDs.  I have only 
been using the on-board video, and don't have any separate PCI-E cards for the 
system.  I only have the mouse & keyboard plugged in as USB when I am booting 
from the DVD.

I will check on the GPU BIOS options again, but I couldn't really find much to 
change... 

As far as updating the BIOS, I went to the Gigabyte site and it looks like 
there's only 3 releases - the first release, and two beta releases, so I think 
I am good there.

I am downloading Fedora now, but it looks like they're up to version 25.  I'll 
let you know if that boots up and installs.

I am trying to figure out how to boot into legacy mode, and will try that as 
well, and I didn't see much in the way of USB settings - I tinkered with a few 
of them and it didn't seem to help any.

I'll keep trying...

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-11 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 4:03:53 PM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:38:29 AM UTC-5, qubesn...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> > I am attempting to install Qubes, version 3.2, never having used any prior 
> > versions.
> > 
> > My computer is custom-built with the following components:
> > 
> > CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K Quad-core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 Processor
> > Motherboard: GIGABYTE Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 (rev 1.0)
> > RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB
> > Primary HDD: Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB 3-D Vertical Internal SSD
> > CD-ROM: Pioneer 16x BD-R Blu-ray Burner (BDR-209DBK)
> > 
> > I tried installing using the following types of media:
> > 
> > -ISO burned to DVD
> > -ISO burned to USB using Rufus in Windows and selecting dd mode
> > -ISO burned to USB using dd in Debian
> > 
> > When none of these worked, I started searching this newsgroup for similar 
> > problems.  I found one suggestion that I tried, which was to add 
> > "GRUB_CMDLINUX_XEN_DEFAULT iommu-no-igfx" to grub.cfg - I could not do this 
> > one because I could not get the USB device out of read-only mode
> > 
> > I removed the "quiet" option from the install, but still no success
> > 
> > Afterward, I disabled VT-d in BIOS, but again, no success
> > 
> > Every time, I get the splash screen with the options for installation. For 
> > any option I pick, it gets to the point where I believe Xen is launching 
> > the graphics for the installer. At that point, the screen goes completely 
> > black.  In the case where I use the DVD, the drive stops spinning, and 
> > nothing else happens.
> > 
> > I am at a loss, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> hmm  tried a diff usb stick,  checked the signatures of the downloaded iso, 
> used only onboard gpu unplug pcie one. check gpu bios options,unplug all 
> other usb devices,  check mobo for options,  update mobo bios,  does the 
> baremetal fedora 24 installer work?
> 
> That board looks like it should work good with qubes,  if I can think of 
> anything else I'll post back.
> 
> Also

oh and legacy boot mode.  check usb controller options too.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot install Qubes 3.2 - black screen of death

2017-02-11 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:38:29 AM UTC-5, qubesn...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am attempting to install Qubes, version 3.2, never having used any prior 
> versions.
> 
> My computer is custom-built with the following components:
> 
> CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K Quad-core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 Processor
> Motherboard: GIGABYTE Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 (rev 1.0)
> RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB
> Primary HDD: Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB 3-D Vertical Internal SSD
> CD-ROM: Pioneer 16x BD-R Blu-ray Burner (BDR-209DBK)
> 
> I tried installing using the following types of media:
> 
> -ISO burned to DVD
> -ISO burned to USB using Rufus in Windows and selecting dd mode
> -ISO burned to USB using dd in Debian
> 
> When none of these worked, I started searching this newsgroup for similar 
> problems.  I found one suggestion that I tried, which was to add 
> "GRUB_CMDLINUX_XEN_DEFAULT iommu-no-igfx" to grub.cfg - I could not do this 
> one because I could not get the USB device out of read-only mode
> 
> I removed the "quiet" option from the install, but still no success
> 
> Afterward, I disabled VT-d in BIOS, but again, no success
> 
> Every time, I get the splash screen with the options for installation. For 
> any option I pick, it gets to the point where I believe Xen is launching the 
> graphics for the installer. At that point, the screen goes completely black.  
> In the case where I use the DVD, the drive stops spinning, and nothing else 
> happens.
> 
> I am at a loss, and any help would be greatly appreciated.

hmm  tried a diff usb stick,  checked the signatures of the downloaded iso, 
used only onboard gpu unplug pcie one. check gpu bios options,unplug all 
other usb devices,  check mobo for options,  update mobo bios,  does the 
baremetal fedora 24 installer work?

That board looks like it should work good with qubes,  if I can think of 
anything else I'll post back.

Also

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