Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-11-17 22:57, Sec Tester wrote:
> Just pointing out that there documentation here needs updating to include 
> commands for fedora-24:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/
> 

Do you mean just the numbers ("23" to "24"), or have some actual commands 
changed?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-17 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 21:30:25 UTC+1 użytkownik Grzesiek 
Chodzicki napisał:
> W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> > On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> > > qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> > > qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."
> > 
> > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > 
> > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
> > command:
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> > 
> > -- 
> > yaqu
> 
> I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I installed 
> Qubes on my PC.

Okay, I found a fix. I deleted fedora-23 folder from the templates directory 
and then deleted its entry from qubes.xml. Afterwards I rebuilt the dvm image 
using the qvm-create-default-dvm. All works fine now.

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[qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-16 Thread blyt9910

> 
> 
> I installed the Fedora 24 template and set all VMs that were using 23 to 24.
> However, I'm unable to remove the Fedora 23 template and dom0 is still 
> fetching updates for it.
> Anyone else having this problem?

Nevermind I got it. Attempted to remove the template before I set dependent VMs 
to the new one.

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[qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-16 Thread blyt9910
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 10:53:00 PM UTC-5, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Fedora 24 template is now available for direct installation. This means
> there are now two ways to have it on Qubes 3.2 system:
> 
> 1. Upgrade existing Fedora 23 template according to this instruction:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/fedora-template-upgrade-23/
> 
> 2. Install a fresh one using:
> 
> qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-24
> 
> The later option will get you fresh template. If you made any
> modifications there, you'll need to do them again (if you want).
> The same is available for fedora-24-minimal template.
> 
> In any case, after getting new template using any method, the next step
> is switching some/all qubes (VMs) to the new one. This can be done using
> either Qubes Manager (in qube settings), or using qvm-prefs command line
> tool.
> 
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I installed the Fedora 24 template and set all VMs that were using 23 to 24.
However, I'm unable to remove the Fedora 23 template and dom0 is still fetching 
updates for it.
Anyone else having this problem?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-16 Thread yaqu
On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:14:24 +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
 wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:28:17AM +0100, yaqu wrote:
> > > You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs
> > > still were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error,
> > > but also it has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and
> > > not cleaning template's directory).
> > 
> > Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.
> > 
> > Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):
> > 
> > $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> > $ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
> > $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> 
> Yes, you're right. Previously (before Fedora introduced DNF), failure
> in %preun script aborted the operation, now it results just in a
> message. Not sure if this is a bug of a feature of DNF...

Removing package using plain rpm gives the same result, so it's not
dnf's fault.

There is an interesting entry in rpm changelog:
* Fix %preun scriptlet not aborting package erase
http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.13.0

So it's fixed in rpm 4.13.0, but in dom0 we have broken rpm 4.13.0-rc1.

BTW it was fixed in commit:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/commit/1ac507f15f014e69b926a1c2bf9a46a2a4dcaff3
And broken in:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/commit/f4a49c3d446bb180ca6b30a4337065fb6511e641

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-15 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:28:17AM +0100, yaqu wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:06:48 +0100, yaqu 
> wrote:
> 
> > You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs still
> > were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error, but also it
> > has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and not cleaning
> > template's directory).
> 
> Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.
> 
> Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
> $ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
> $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal

Yes, you're right. Previously (before Fedora introduced DNF), failure in
%preun script aborted the operation, now it results just in a message.
Not sure if this is a bug of a feature of DNF...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-15 Thread yaqu
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:06:48 +0100, yaqu 
wrote:

> You have tried to remove fedora-23 using dnf, while some appVMs still
> were using it as a template. Dnf has displayed an error, but also it
> has removed package, leaving it in qubes config (and not cleaning
> template's directory).

Anyway, I think it should be considered as a bug.

Steps to reproduce (assuming fedora-23-minimal is not installed):

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal
$ qvm-create -t fedora-23-minimal -l red test-vm
$ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23-minimal

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-15 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 23:26:10 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:30:25 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
>  wrote:
> 
> > W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu
> > napisał:
> > > 
> > > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > > 
> > > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use
> > > this command:
> > > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> > 
> > I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I
> > installed Qubes on my PC.
> 
> Please, check if your fedora-23 template was really installed from rpm
> (and it wasn't cloned from previous version and upgraded to f23):
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs fedora-23 | grep rpm
> installed_by_rpm   : True
> 
> You can also check this using Qubes VM Manager (in VM settings, tab
> Basic, under "General").
> 
> If your fedora-23 template was not installed from rpm, you can remove
> it using Qubes VM Manager or using command:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-remove fedora-23
> 
> -- 
> yaqu

qvm-prefs does return true for installed_by_rpm, moreover using qvm-remove 
causes the "this package was installed by rpm" message to appear.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-13 Thread yaqu
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:30:25 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
 wrote:

> W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu
> napisał:
> > 
> > It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> > executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> > 
> > To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use
> > this command:
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> 
> I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I
> installed Qubes on my PC.

Please, check if your fedora-23 template was really installed from rpm
(and it wasn't cloned from previous version and upgraded to f23):

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs fedora-23 | grep rpm
installed_by_rpm   : True

You can also check this using Qubes VM Manager (in VM settings, tab
Basic, under "General").

If your fedora-23 template was not installed from rpm, you can remove
it using Qubes VM Manager or using command:

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-remove fedora-23

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-13 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 20:54:06 UTC+1 użytkownik yaqu napisał:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
>  wrote:
> 
> > Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> > qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> > qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."
> 
> It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
> executed this command in VM instead of dom0).
> 
> To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
> command:
> [user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template
> 
> -- 
> yaqu

I did execute it in dom0, fedora-23 was installed by default when I installed 
Qubes on my PC.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-13 Thread yaqu
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:23:35 -0800 (PST), Grzesiek Chodzicki
 wrote:

> Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove
> qubes-template-fedora-23: "No match for argument:
> qubes-template-fedora-23 Error: No packages marked for removal."

It looks like you do not have this package installed (or you have
executed this command in VM instead of dom0).

To get a list of templates installed from rpm in dom0, you can use this
command:
[user@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep template

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[qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-13 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu niedziela, 13 listopada 2016 05:01:37 UTC+1 użytkownik Sec Tester 
napisał:
> NICE!!
> 
> Any specific improvements or fixes running Fedora-24?
> 
> I noticed F-23 seemed to have trouble playing flash videos for me.
> 
> F-24 Min template coming?
> A Deb-8 min template would also be nice :)

Following error message is printed after running sudo dnf remove 
qubes-template-fedora-23:
"No match for argument: qubes-template-fedora-23
Error: No packages marked for removal."

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-12 Thread Sec Tester
> Yes, it is also available - as noted in the message.

And i read too quickly, doh :o)

Look forward to taking 24 for a spin.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-12 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 08:01:37PM -0800, Sec Tester wrote:
> NICE!!
> 
> Any specific improvements or fixes running Fedora-24?

Nothing specific to Qubes, see upstream release notes for non-Qubes
changes:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/24/html/Release_Notes/

> I noticed F-23 seemed to have trouble playing flash videos for me.
> 
> F-24 Min template coming?

Yes, it is also available - as noted in the message.

> A Deb-8 min template would also be nice :)

Actually, default debian-8 template is already pretty minimal.

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[qubes-users] Re: Fedora 24 template available for Qubes 3.2

2016-11-12 Thread Sec Tester
NICE!!

Any specific improvements or fixes running Fedora-24?

I noticed F-23 seemed to have trouble playing flash videos for me.

F-24 Min template coming?
A Deb-8 min template would also be nice :)

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