[qubes-users] Re: How to add "nouveau.modeset=0" to boot settings in Qubes 4.x? (ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM141 laptop)

2018-02-25 Thread @LeeteqXV
On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 9:29:55 PM UTC+1, Yuraeitha wrote:
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 12:10:03 AM UTC+1, @LeeteqXV wrote:
> > Hi all. I initially thought to save some time and cleared a reply
> >   to an existing thread to do a new post, but that did not work.
> >   Sorry about the wrong post. Reposting it here now. Thanks for the
> >   reply and pointing it out, Yuraeitha.
> > 
> > See my reply + follow-up question at the bottom, below the quoted
> >   posts:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ##
> > 
> > My original post, incl. a reply by "Yuraeitha" below..:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "I am considering Qubes 4.x for an ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM141 laptop
> >   with NVIDIA graphics and built-in/onboard "fallback" Intel
> >   graphics.
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   In order to get for example Ubuntu Mate installed onto it, to get
> >   past the installer incompatibilities with NVidia, it is necessary
> >   to edit the boot menu and add "nouveau.modeset=0" to the startup
> >   command. Then Ubuntu boots fine.
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   Can this be done with Qubes 4.x?
> >   
> > 
> >   How/where to affect such boot commands; can that be done from the
> >   boot media/USB stick directly, as we do with other Linux live USB
> >   sticks?
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   Thanks,
> >   "
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > https://mastodon.technology/@LeeteqXV/
> > 
> > ###
> > 
> > Reply from "Yuraeitha" on Feb. 19th..:
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > - show
> > quoted text -
> > 
> > 
> > "@LeeteqXV
> > 
> >   It's probably best you start a new thread, this thread is
> >   about a whole different issue altogether.
> > 
> > But since this is an old thread, I'll briefly answer
> >   you. 
> > 
> >   This what you seek, directing a GPU directly into an
> >   AppVM, or any other work arounds, can currently be done in
> >   Qubes 3.2. nor Qubes 4.0.
> > 
> > However, it is planned for Qubes 4.1, which may reach
> >   release. Just don't get hyped yet, things can change, 4.0.
> >   is barely finished and 4.1. is currently only on the
> >   drawing board. Look here for quick information about 4.1. 
> > https://github.com/rootkovska/qubes-roadmap you
> >   can see the GTX passthrough ability on the map.
> > 
> > Also, you don't really need Ubuntu for these kind of
> >   things, it can easily be fixed up in both Debian and
> >   Fedora. You can use Intel graphics just fine for 4k
> >   videos, you don't need nvidia for stuff like that on
> >   modern motherboard/CPU systems. You may need powerful
> >   graphic cards for gaming and high end graphics, but this
> >   too isn't possible, at least before Qubes 4.1. anyway. If
> >   you didn't need these in Qubes 4, then it will likely make
> >   no difference to you to use Intel graphics. Also Qubes
> >   dom0 frequently has nvidia graphic issues and may require
> >   a full properitary driver download/install, with a manual
> >   install.
> > 
> > To get a bit back on-topic, it saves you whole lot of
> >   hassle if you get adjusted to not be depending too much on
> >   Ubuntu and others that give everything on a silverplate.
> >   Although DVM protected content is never stable regardless
> >   of the Linux distribution, unless you download the Google
> >   Chrome browser from Google (Not Chromium), which usually
> >   always have working DVM videos in any Linux. Issue being,
> >   that Firefox and others, often loose the ability to play
> >   the video, especially Microsoft silverlight videos, which
> >   the work-arounds frequently break.
> > 
> > Essentially you can play the codecs fine, HTML5 is for
> >   example extremely easy to install in Fedora through
> >   enabling the RPMFusion repositories, which can easily be
> >   done in Qubes fedora template (best make a copy first).
> >   But it does not include HTML5-DVM.
> > 
> > Essentially, DVM is so messed up, you ma/y just want to
> >   download the Google Browser specifically for these videos,
> >   and just be done with the crapware copyright protectors
> >   throw at us. It's not like they care about Linux anyway,
> >   so why would changing to Ubuntu make any difference?
> >   

[qubes-users] Re: How to add "nouveau.modeset=0" to boot settings in Qubes 4.x? (ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM141 laptop)

2018-02-23 Thread Yuraeitha
On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 12:10:03 AM UTC+1, @LeeteqXV wrote:
> Hi all. I initially thought to save some time and cleared a reply
>   to an existing thread to do a new post, but that did not work.
>   Sorry about the wrong post. Reposting it here now. Thanks for the
>   reply and pointing it out, Yuraeitha.
> 
> See my reply + follow-up question at the bottom, below the quoted
>   posts:
> 
> 
> 
> ##
> 
> My original post, incl. a reply by "Yuraeitha" below..:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "I am considering Qubes 4.x for an ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM141 laptop
>   with NVIDIA graphics and built-in/onboard "fallback" Intel
>   graphics.
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   In order to get for example Ubuntu Mate installed onto it, to get
>   past the installer incompatibilities with NVidia, it is necessary
>   to edit the boot menu and add "nouveau.modeset=0" to the startup
>   command. Then Ubuntu boots fine.
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   Can this be done with Qubes 4.x?
>   
> 
>   How/where to affect such boot commands; can that be done from the
>   boot media/USB stick directly, as we do with other Linux live USB
>   sticks?
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   Thanks,
>   "
> 
> 
> -- 
> https://mastodon.technology/@LeeteqXV/
> 
> ###
> 
> Reply from "Yuraeitha" on Feb. 19th..:
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>   
> - show
> quoted text -
> 
> 
> "@LeeteqXV
> 
>   It's probably best you start a new thread, this thread is
>   about a whole different issue altogether.
> 
> But since this is an old thread, I'll briefly answer
>   you. 
> 
>   This what you seek, directing a GPU directly into an
>   AppVM, or any other work arounds, can currently be done in
>   Qubes 3.2. nor Qubes 4.0.
> 
> However, it is planned for Qubes 4.1, which may reach
>   release. Just don't get hyped yet, things can change, 4.0.
>   is barely finished and 4.1. is currently only on the
>   drawing board. Look here for quick information about 4.1. 
> https://github.com/rootkovska/qubes-roadmap you
>   can see the GTX passthrough ability on the map.
> 
> Also, you don't really need Ubuntu for these kind of
>   things, it can easily be fixed up in both Debian and
>   Fedora. You can use Intel graphics just fine for 4k
>   videos, you don't need nvidia for stuff like that on
>   modern motherboard/CPU systems. You may need powerful
>   graphic cards for gaming and high end graphics, but this
>   too isn't possible, at least before Qubes 4.1. anyway. If
>   you didn't need these in Qubes 4, then it will likely make
>   no difference to you to use Intel graphics. Also Qubes
>   dom0 frequently has nvidia graphic issues and may require
>   a full properitary driver download/install, with a manual
>   install.
> 
> To get a bit back on-topic, it saves you whole lot of
>   hassle if you get adjusted to not be depending too much on
>   Ubuntu and others that give everything on a silverplate.
>   Although DVM protected content is never stable regardless
>   of the Linux distribution, unless you download the Google
>   Chrome browser from Google (Not Chromium), which usually
>   always have working DVM videos in any Linux. Issue being,
>   that Firefox and others, often loose the ability to play
>   the video, especially Microsoft silverlight videos, which
>   the work-arounds frequently break.
> 
> Essentially you can play the codecs fine, HTML5 is for
>   example extremely easy to install in Fedora through
>   enabling the RPMFusion repositories, which can easily be
>   done in Qubes fedora template (best make a copy first).
>   But it does not include HTML5-DVM.
> 
> Essentially, DVM is so messed up, you ma/y just want to
>   download the Google Browser specifically for these videos,
>   and just be done with the crapware copyright protectors
>   throw at us. It's not like they care about Linux anyway,
>   so why would changing to Ubuntu make any difference?
>   Ubuntu is just as unstable in this regard of protected
>   content due to lack of developer support of protected
>   contents.
> 
> However, Fedora+Firefox+RPMFusionRepositories+ffmpeg+Firefox's
>   own DVM = Netflix and all HTML5 videos on youtube, and
>