Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installing software.. deb-9 lists qubes-r4.list

2019-04-16 Thread unman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:16:57AM +, john s. wrote:
> On 3/23/19 6:31 PM, Jon deps wrote:
> > On 3/19/19 4:59 PM, Steven Walker wrote:
> > > I am still pretty new to Qubes. I have managed to create a new qube,
> > > but I want to install some software for use with this qube. I have
> > > read that it has to be installed to the template and not the actual
> > > qube. As the template has no actual network connection, how do I go
> > > about this?
> > > 
> > > Using 4.0.1, Fedora 29
> > > 
> > > Any help greatly appeciated.
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > 
> > pretty sure, there are different ways to skin the cat, though
> > 
> > 
> > the Templates are designed to obtain access indirectly, that is what the
> >  "salt" stuff is they talk about it seems by default to be setup to
> > use  sys-whonix-14  to  install updates  , somewhat magically
> > 
> > you can actually change the netvm without shutting down the templates
> > 
> > generally it's bad form  to give  the templates direct access,  though
> > may you might want to once in while  in order  to troubleshoot something
> > , etc  .testing it the morning ,  you should be able to install non
> > updates without  Direct  access
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > for me  Templates  aren't  worth backing up  , I'm not worried about my
> > system  melting down  much . and anyway  its going to be best to
> > fresh install , which is easy-ist  in Qubes, which is one of the
> > beauties of the technology 
> > 
> > hence, I clone for other reasons
> > 
> > one word of advice  is  keep a paper list of  custom  packages you
> > install so when it goes to Fedora-30  you install fresh and then add
> > back fresh packages ,  your files  will persist,
> > 
> > 
> > my problem  what few files I have end up spread out over  10 App Qubes
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> If  I do this :
> 
> echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main" |
> sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
> deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
> 
> 
> 
> 
> then I do NOT need to add anything  to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list
> ??
> 
> nor
> 
> /etc/apt/sources.list   ??
> 
> 
> for Debian-9  stretch ?
> 
> 
> ty
> 
> 

That's right.
'man sources.list' gives you chapter and verse.

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[qubes-users] Re: Installing software.. deb-9 lists qubes-r4.list

2019-04-16 Thread john s.

On 3/23/19 6:31 PM, Jon deps wrote:

On 3/19/19 4:59 PM, Steven Walker wrote:
I am still pretty new to Qubes. I have managed to create a new qube, 
but I want to install some software for use with this qube. I have 
read that it has to be installed to the template and not the actual 
qube. As the template has no actual network connection, how do I go 
about this?


Using 4.0.1, Fedora 29

Any help greatly appeciated.

Steve



pretty sure, there are different ways to skin the cat, though


the Templates are designed to obtain access indirectly, that is what the 
  "salt" stuff is they talk about it seems by default to be setup to 
use  sys-whonix-14  to  install updates  , somewhat magically


you can actually change the netvm without shutting down the templates

generally it's bad form  to give  the templates direct access,  though 
may you might want to once in while  in order  to troubleshoot something 
, etc  .testing it the morning ,  you should be able to install non 
updates without  Direct  access




for me  Templates  aren't  worth backing up  , I'm not worried about my 
system  melting down  much . and anyway  its going to be best to 
fresh install , which is easy-ist  in Qubes, which is one of the 
beauties of the technology 


hence, I clone for other reasons

one word of advice  is  keep a paper list of  custom  packages you 
install so when it goes to Fedora-30  you install fresh and then add 
back fresh packages ,  your files  will persist,



my problem  what few files I have end up spread out over  10 App Qubes






If  I do this :

echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial 
main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list

deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main




then I do NOT need to add anything  to 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list   ??


nor

/etc/apt/sources.list   ??


for Debian-9  stretch ?


ty


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