[qubes-users] Re: Maybe a silly question

2019-08-19 Thread hongkongwillbefree


On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:36:23 AM UTC-7, Manuel Cornejo wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> As Qubes works by means of the principle of security by isolation and 
> every part of the hardware is running in a virtual machine. Does it make 
> any sense to use Kaspersky Security for virtualization over the xen 
> hypervisor  to improve security and antihacker security?
>
>
Reply: Kaspersky is incorporated in and obeys th elaws of the Russian 
Federation, which is controlled by the FSB, formerly knowen as the KGB. Man 
security flaws of record, most recently August 2019 breaking news.   
https://www.techradar.com/news/kaspersky-antivirus-left-millions-customers-open-to-online-tracking

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[qubes-users] Re: Maybe a silly question

2017-03-31 Thread cooloutac
I gave up on Virus scans a couple years ago.   I turned into one of the grey 
bears that use to tell me in the late 90s they were useless... 

Actually revelations nowadays are that they are not just useless since they 
can't keep up with literally millions of viruses released every month, 
according to head of IAD for the NSA like 5 years ago... probably way more now.

But the fact is they are more of a security risk then they are worth. There is 
a security researcher Tavis Ormandy? who has exposed kapersky and exploits 
Norton quite frequently.  Norton once took one of my suggestion when they 
started their 2009 I think was the year, a symantec employee contacted me and I 
was psyched to see they included my suggestion.  With a brand new revamped 
norton that was destroying everyone else with the lightest foot print.  Then I 
caught them hiding processses in the kernel and their own program, which ahd a 
feature who listed which cpu use was from norton or other on system,  was lying 
haha.  And after like 2 or 3 years they were back to raping hdd's and using 
resources again.

Rumours from the 90s about them making their own viruses to promote their own 
software has also been proven not too long ago.  Especially related to Kapersky 
being caught as well.  Some of them are so blatantly corrupt nowadays you know 
its them when they pop up on your windows machine out of nowhere lol...cough 
personal antivirus...cough..

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[qubes-users] Re: Maybe a silly question

2017-03-30 Thread J. Eppler
> As Qubes works by means of the principle of security by isolation and every 
> part of the hardware is running in a virtual machine. Does it make any sense 
> to use Kaspersky Security for virtualization over the xen hypervisor  to 
> improve security and antihacker security?

The KasperskyOS uses a hosted hypervisor (type-2 hypervisor). The KasperskyOS 
is based on a reliable proprietary microkernel. They use device emulation or 
where possible paravirtualization. KasperskyOS is able to use hardware 
virtualization extensions, but does not require them [1]. I assume they use an 
mixed approach of binary translation and kernel based virtualization. However, 
everything is proprietary. This is the reason what makes a technical and 
security comparison between KasperksyOS and QubesOS impossible.

However, it is easy to argue why Xen is a good choice as hypervisor for 
security projects such as QubesOS:

- Xen is open source, which means everybody can audit and anylze it
- Xen is used by several large companies in their cloud data center (Amazon 
AWS, Netflix etc.) -> Industrial proven
- Xen was developed and maintained for over a decade and has proven to be 
reasonable secure and flexible.
- Xen itself has a very small code base, which means less code running higher 
privileged CPU modes (Intel VT + AMD-V ring -1, ARM "HYP" mode).

> Is going KasperskyOS to suppose a big concurrency to Qubes?

No, QubesOS has a very high security standard driven by excellent research from 
Invsible Things labs. Furthermore, QubesOS is open source, which means people 
can extend QubesOS for their own use cases. Larger community projects which 
extend QubesOS are Whonix, the Archlinux-Template, the Mirage-Firewall 
Unikernel. In addition there are a couple of smaller projects.

By the way, KasperskyOS is not the only solution. Bromium vSentry for example 
is another endpoint virtualization solution.

[1] 
https://os.kaspersky.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/02/Kaspersky-Secure-Hypervisor-En.pdf

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