[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-08-12 Thread the2nd
Am Samstag, 20. Mai 2017 21:42:50 UTC+2 schrieb Reg Tiangha:
> People may not have noticed, but there is now a 4.9 kernel in
> current-testing (4.9.28 to be specific).
> 
> If the release schedule holds, then that should be migrated to stable
> soon, however, before that happens, some feedback on that kernel would
> be useful before it gets pushed to the majority of users.
> 
> Specifically, it'd be nice to know if:
> 
> 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9.
> 
> 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work.

With 4.9 the touchpad of my Latitude E7470 (06DC) can be configured. This was 
not possible with any older kernel and i was forced to use "natural scrolling". 
Now i can configure all features via the KDE control center.
 

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-07-30 Thread lokedhs
On Monday, 31 July 2017 11:11:58 UTC+8, lok...@gmail.com  wrote:

> > 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work.
> 
> I can now disable tap-to-click. Finally!

Note that I quoted the wrong question here. It didn't work in the old version, 
but works with 4.9.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-07-30 Thread lokedhs
The machine I'm testing on is a Dell Latitude E7470.

> 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9.

The computer now greets me with a black screen (hung? I don't know) when coming 
out of sleep. Thankfully I don't usually put the machine to sleep, so I can 
live with it.

> 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work.

I can now disable tap-to-click. Finally!

> 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.

Other than the two things above, nothing has changed as far as I can tell.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-07-24 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 02:03:01AM -0700, Epitre wrote:
> Le mardi 11 juillet 2017 09:11:54 UTC+2, Epitre a écrit :
> >
> > Dear all, 
> >
> > I'm experiencing the same problem as described here 
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94990 since kernel 4.9 (even 
> > with 4.10 and 4.11) with Qubes. Nouveau driver crash at boot time (see 
> > screenshot attached to the message). I tried almost all the proposed debug 
> > options and solutions but it's still not working. Typically, removing 
> > Nouveau from the kernel (nouveau.modeset=0 or rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau) 
> > allows to boot in runlevel 3 only. 
> >
> > In consequence, I setup a Fedora 25 on another disk and Nouveau on kernel 
> > 4.9 and 4.11 works fine. It seems to be something related to Qubes (Xen?). 
> >
> > I also tried to setup the 4.0 released by Marek but, as expected, it did 
> > reach graphical Anaconda installer. 
> >
> > I tried to build NVIDIA drivers with all the methods provided on the Qubes 
> > website or google groups but without success. This methods would not have 
> > been satisfactory either due to the use of proprietary softwares. 
> >
> > For information, my cpu is an AMD Ryzen 1800, my motherboard an Asrock 
> > X370 and I have a Nvidia GTX970 with 4Go. 
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea how can I debug or options I can pass to the 
> > kernel to successfully boot? 
> >
> > I'm very bothered because I going to be block for setup Qubes 4.0. Thank 
> > you in advance, 
>
> Hello, just a small ping to know if it is the good place to ask this 
> question. Thank you.

Generally this is the right place to ask. According to quick google, the
first message(s) ("[Firmware Bug]: cpu 15, try to use APIC510 (LVT
offset 1) for vector 0xf9, but the register is already in use for vector
0x0 on this cpu") should be unrelated to graphics issues. Those with
"nouveau" prefix looks related. Especially "bus: MMIO write of 8130
FAULT at 10eb14 [ IBUS ]".
You may try luck asking on xen-de...@lists.xen.org (please cc me, or
this list), providing transcription of those "nouveau" messages - maybe
there is some xen command line option to work around this issue.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-07-19 Thread tsadowski
I have been trying to set up screen rotation on the Yoga 900. As far as I know, 
this requires the "iio/accel/hid-sensor-accel-3d" driver which is present in 
4.4.14 but not in 4.9.35.

Cheers,
Torsten

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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-29 Thread 0spinboson
fyi: this kernel built as-is will cause kernel panics on (some, common) Ryzen 
motherboards. Issue is described here among other places: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1671360
This happens as soon as config_pinctrl_amd is set to 'm' in the build config. 
Un-setting it should evade the issue (as I've not yet seen a proper fix for it).

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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-29 Thread Zrubi
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On 06/29/2017 04:57 AM, Chris Laprise wrote:

> I noticed this, too. So reverting a dispVM's template back to 4.4 
> should fix it?

Yes - but this is a general kernel changing issue, not related to any
specific kernel version.

Workaround:
After changing the kernel, you need to regenerate DispVM
savefile.



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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-28 Thread Chris Laprise

On 06/15/2017 04:51 PM, Zrubi wrote:

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On 06/15/2017 10:02 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:

On 06/15/2017 01:53 PM, Zrubi wrote:



Maybe it is a know issue, but: online netvm change on a
disposable VM is also broken on the latest 4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes
Manager shows it is changed, but not working in practice)


I've *never* ever had this work for me (although it might have
worked once in R3.0 or something old like that); I've always had to
shut down the Disp VM first, alter the dvm template, and then start
up a new one in order to change NetVMs.


well this is such a basic feature I would go crazy if that would not
work...

I'm using this feature from the beginning. And it was always working
in general. I remember for some broken kernel releases. But this
feature should work in general. As it is working with my setup, in
case of kernel VM 4.4 - but not in case of VM kernel 4.9


I noticed this, too. So reverting a dispVM's template back to 4.4 should 
fix it?


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 2017-06-22 12:22 PM, motech man wrote:
> OK, sounds straightforward, I'll give it a shot.
> 
> As to the 4.11 offer, will that work for a kaby-lake system? Sound far older 
> than the 4.4 kernel in the current 3.2 Qubes ISO. Unless you mistyped the 
> version I suspect it would not work well.
>
Nope, didn't mistype anything. You can see the various
officially-supported-by-upstream kernels and what versions they're at by
visiting https://kernel.org. 4.11.6 is the latest in the 4.11 branch.

> Are there any specific options or patches in that 4.11 code that
relate to suspend issues?

No idea. But Kaby Lake is a relatively new platform and it usually takes
a few major kernel releases before hardware support in the kernel
catches up. So maybe it'll fix things for you, or maybe it won't (but
might later on). Video card support should be better, though, since the
Intel video driver is newer.




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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread motech man
On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 2:42:50 PM UTC-5, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> People may not have noticed, but there is now a 4.9 kernel in
> current-testing (4.9.28 to be specific).
> 
> If the release schedule holds, then that should be migrated to stable
> soon, however, before that happens, some feedback on that kernel would
> be useful before it gets pushed to the majority of users.
> 
> Specifically, it'd be nice to know if:
> 
> 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9.
> 
> 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work.
> 
> 3) If newer Intel platforms (i.e. Haswell or newer) works with this
> kernel (I took out the Intel ME driver and the newest machine I have
> access to is a Sandy Bridge machine; I have no issues, but I wonder if
> Haswell or newer is tied more strongly to the Intel ME such that it
> actually needs that driver in order t work properly). If there are Intel
> hardware issues with this kernel, then I'll re-enable the driver in my
> next Pull Request.
> 
> 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.
> 
> 4.9.29 was just released today, so before I send in a Pull Request, let
> me know how 4.9.28 performs and if changes to the kernel config may need
> to be made.

Doh! Sorry for the last reply, I see that 4.11 is > 4.4 

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread motech man
On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 1:05:38 PM UTC-5, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 2017-06-22 11:49 AM, motech man wrote:
> > I just used the qubes-dom9-update cli cmd. Still not sure how to change 
> > kernel config to tailor to my hardware. I have compiled any a Linux kernel 
> > but not sure the proper "qubes" way to do it. I'm just a newb after all ;-/
> 
> It's not hard. If you're familiar with compiling a normal kernel, all
> you need to do is to grab Qubes kernel source here:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/stable-4.9
> 
> Run 'make get-sources && make verify-sources' to download the vanilla
> kernel source.
> 
> Take the config file from the Qubes kernel root directory and run 'make
> menuconfig' on that (extract the kernel source with tar Jxf, copy that
> config file to .config in the kernel source directory, run 'make
> menuconfig') and customize it to your liking. When you're done, copy
> that updated .config file to replace the old config file in the root
> Qubes kernel directory.
> 
> Then run 'make rpms' to compile the whole thing. Outputted rpms will be
> in the rpms/x86_64 directory.
> 
> Finally, copy them to dom0 and install them using rpm -ivh --force.
> 
> If you're feeling adventurous, I've got a 4.11 branch on my GitHub
> account, if you want to see if that'll fix your suspend issues.
> 
> https://github.com/rtiangha/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/devel-4.11
> 
> I've been running it on my desktop since its release and it seems to
> work fine.

OK, sounds straightforward, I'll give it a shot.

As to the 4.11 offer, will that work for a kaby-lake system? Sound far older 
than the 4.4 kernel in the current 3.2 Qubes ISO. Unless you mistyped the 
version I suspect it would not work well.

Are there any specific options or patches in that 4.11 code that relate to 
suspend issues?

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 2017-06-22 11:49 AM, motech man wrote:
> I just used the qubes-dom9-update cli cmd. Still not sure how to change 
> kernel config to tailor to my hardware. I have compiled any a Linux kernel 
> but not sure the proper "qubes" way to do it. I'm just a newb after all ;-/

It's not hard. If you're familiar with compiling a normal kernel, all
you need to do is to grab Qubes kernel source here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/stable-4.9

Run 'make get-sources && make verify-sources' to download the vanilla
kernel source.

Take the config file from the Qubes kernel root directory and run 'make
menuconfig' on that (extract the kernel source with tar Jxf, copy that
config file to .config in the kernel source directory, run 'make
menuconfig') and customize it to your liking. When you're done, copy
that updated .config file to replace the old config file in the root
Qubes kernel directory.

Then run 'make rpms' to compile the whole thing. Outputted rpms will be
in the rpms/x86_64 directory.

Finally, copy them to dom0 and install them using rpm -ivh --force.

If you're feeling adventurous, I've got a 4.11 branch on my GitHub
account, if you want to see if that'll fix your suspend issues.

https://github.com/rtiangha/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/devel-4.11

I've been running it on my desktop since its release and it seems to
work fine.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread motech man
On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:49:59 PM UTC-5, motech man wrote:
> > 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.
> > 
> > 4.9.29 was just released today, so before I send in a Pull Request, let
> > me know how 4.9.28 performs and if changes to the kernel config may need
> > to be made.
> 
> I updated to 4.9.33 last night and it resolved low res display issue for my 
> 7th gen intel 7700 MSI "Bazoka" mobo. 

It is a "kaby-lake" CPU

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-22 Thread motech man
> 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.
> 
> 4.9.29 was just released today, so before I send in a Pull Request, let
> me know how 4.9.28 performs and if changes to the kernel config may need
> to be made.

I updated to 4.9.33 last night and it resolved low res display issue for my 7th 
gen intel 7700 MSI "Bazoka" mobo. It did NOT resolve returning from suspend 
however, which leaves USB keyboard & mouse dead. I need a hard reset to get the 
system back. Seems to work well in all other respects as far as I can tell.

I just used the qubes-dom9-update cli cmd. Still not sure how to change kernel 
config to tailor to my hardware. I have compiled any a Linux kernel but not 
sure the proper "qubes" way to do it. I'm just a newb after all ;-/

Probably not related, but in following one of the tutorial videos I added a 
package to the debian 8 template. When I created a VM from that template I had 
to run apt-get install in the created VM or the app wouldn't show up in the 
path. The apt-get said nothing to do however, 0 updates, 0 removals - already 
up to date etc.

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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-19 Thread Zrubi
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On 06/18/2017 11:04 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

> Make sure you have up to date qubes-gui-agent (qubes-gui-vm). There
> were some issues recently affecting integrity of window content
> affecting F24 (or F25 - depending on gui-agent version ;) ).

Now I'm pretty sure I hit by bug describe in #1495


> After changing netvm for fedora-25-dvm you need to regenerate
> DispVM savefile.

FYI: that was the missing step. which is a general issue about
changing VM kernels, which is not 4.9 specific issue.


>>> i915.preliminary_hw_support=0


> I've seen some graphics issues (different than yours) on
> Broadwell-based hardware, on 4.9 kernel. Adding iommu=no-igfx to
> Xen cmdline helped. See here: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2836

Thanks, will try both xen and the mentioned kernel parameters.



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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-18 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 09:53:11PM +0200, Zrubi wrote:
> On 06/15/2017 06:34 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> 
> > Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they
> > running on Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?
> 
> Nope.
> Fedora 24 mainly, and Debian 8
> The later is only for sys-net, so all my taskbar icons coming from a
> F24 based template.

Make sure you have up to date qubes-gui-agent (qubes-gui-vm). There were
some issues recently affecting integrity of window content affecting
F24 (or F25 - depending on gui-agent version ;) ).

> > Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any 
> > Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an
> > issue with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I
> > guess if it works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the
> > three; don't know how to fix it though).
> 
> Maybe it is a know issue, but:
> online netvm change on a disposable VM is also broken on the latest
> 4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes Manager shows it is changed, but not working in
> practice)

Can you provide more details (and even better: create an issue on
github)?

I've just tried and cannot reproduce. I've tried two scenarios:

1. fedora-25-dvm with netvm=sys-firewall, then new DispVM switched to
another netvm (sys-whonix) - it works
2. fedora-25-dvm with netvm=none, then new DispVM switched to
sys-firewall - it works

After changing netvm for fedora-25-dvm you need to regenerate DispVM
savefile.
All of this using 4.9 kernel (some .28, some .31).

> > I can't play around with this until later today, but in the
> > meantime, what graphics hardware are you running, Zrubi? And which
> > version of 4.4 are you running where things work fine? And finally
> > if you can, if it's an Intel card, can you try booting with this
> > kernel option to see if it makes a difference?
> > 
> > i915.preliminary_hw_support=0
> 
> I believe this setting will not affect this chipset. But will try if I
> have a chance. (This is my only Qubes Laptop atm and using it for
> production)
> 
> HW details:
> 
> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5300U CPU @ 2.30GHz
> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI [8086:1604] (rev 09)
> Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09) (prog-if 00
> 
> SW versions:
> Qubes 3.2
> xen: 4.6.5
> kernel: 4.4.62-12

I've seen some graphics issues (different than yours) on Broadwell-based
hardware, on 4.9 kernel. Adding iommu=no-igfx to Xen cmdline helped. See
here:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2836

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-18 Thread Qubed One
Reg Tiangha:
> On 06/15/2017 01:53 PM, Zrubi wrote:
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>>
>> On 06/15/2017 06:34 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
>>
>>> Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they
>>> running on Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?
>> Nope.
>> Fedora 24 mainly, and Debian 8
>> The later is only for sys-net, so all my taskbar icons coming from a
>> F24 based template.
>>
> Thanks. I don't really use Fedora, but I'll set up a test VM once my
> laptop is finished converting this Debian 8 template to 9. Can you list
> some apps that this happens with so I can test across a variety of
> templates? I'm still leaning towards an X issue, but maybe it's always
> been there since Fedora 24, even under kernel 4.9. But I would assume if
> that was the case, then more people would have spoken up by now.
>>> Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any 
>>> Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an
>>> issue with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I
>>> guess if it works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the
>>> three; don't know how to fix it though).
>> Maybe it is a know issue, but:
>> online netvm change on a disposable VM is also broken on the latest
>> 4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes Manager shows it is changed, but not working in
>> practice)
>>
> I've *never* ever had this work for me (although it might have worked
> once in R3.0 or something old like that); I've always had to shut down
> the Disp VM first, alter the dvm template, and then start up a new one
> in order to change NetVMs.

I have no problem with this myself. 3.2, kernels 4.4, 4.9, 4.10. The
difference I think is that my dvm templates net-vm is set to none, so
each dispvm I start which requires net access is set manually. Is it
common for you or others to change a given dispvms net-vm more than
once? Im just curious.

>>> I can't play around with this until later today, but in the
>>> meantime, what graphics hardware are you running, Zrubi? And which
>>> version of 4.4 are you running where things work fine? And finally
>>> if you can, if it's an Intel card, can you try booting with this
>>> kernel option to see if it makes a difference?
>>>
>>> i915.preliminary_hw_support=0
>> I believe this setting will not affect this chipset. But will try if I
>> have a chance. (This is my only Qubes Laptop atm and using it for
>> production)
>>
>> HW details:
>>
>> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5300U CPU @ 2.30GHz
>> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI [8086:1604] (rev 09)
>> Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09) (prog-if 00
>>
>> SW versions:
>> Qubes 3.2
>> xen: 4.6.5
>> kernel: 4.4.62-12
>>
> It might; if you could try it in both dom0 and vm (and maybe different
> combinations if you have the time), that'd be useful to help rule things
> out. It's toggled on by default to work around this:
> 
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=intel-skl-prelim-support
> 
> but maybe it's no longer an issue with 4.9.
> 
> 
> 

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-17 Thread motech man
On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 11:02:48 AM UTC-5, Vít Šesták wrote:
> Not using i915 driver on new CPU is my experience with i7-7500U (Intel HD 
> graphics 620). But Haswell is not so new and I believe even Skylakes should 
> be covered by i915.preliminary_hw_support=1.
> 
> Regards,
> Vít Šesták 'v6ak'

I have a kabi-xxx??? cpu 7700 4.2GHz system with a 4.4 kernel. It uses the i915 
driver with the Intel HD 630 mobo graphics. I'g going to recompile the kernel 
after I get more familiar with Qubes. I just got it installed for the first 
time only a couple of hours ago.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-16 Thread Vít Šesták
Not using i915 driver on new CPU is my experience with i7-7500U (Intel HD 
graphics 620). But Haswell is not so new and I believe even Skylakes should be 
covered by i915.preliminary_hw_support=1.

Regards,
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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 06/15/2017 03:02 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 06/15/2017 02:51 PM, Zrubi wrote:
>> Do we already have any git issues about 4.9 and its currently known
>> problems?
>>
> Nothing centralized that tracks all 4.9 issues/regressions that I'm
> aware of, outside of this message thread. Some tickets have been opened
> up as needed for specific issues (for example, full-range slub_debug
> being enabled exposing a kernel bug that breaks SSL connections) though.
>
> Sometimes comments or feedback are posted under the relevant kernel
> update ticket whenever a new one is pushed out:
>
> https://github.com/QubesOS/updates-status/issues
>
> One thing to test would be a variety of different 4.9 releases; while
> I'm still leaning towards an X or interaction with newer X issue, it
> could also be a regression that was introduced upstream. And it would be
> nice to know if this issue is happening on video cards that *aren't*
> Intel. Really, the only kernel config option that changed between 4.4
> and 4.9 for Intel cards is that preliminary hardware support option
> being changed to enabled by default. If disabling that doesn't fix it,
> there there are either bigger issues at play in the kernel *or* the
> issue is somewhere else.
>
> Also, a greater list of specific KDE apps to test would be helpful if
> you could provide that.
>
>
Finally, another idea: I believe it was Vik who said that on newer Intel
video cards, the i915 driver actually *wasn't* being used in 4.4 because
it did not support newer cards, and a generic video driver was being
automatically used instead. So maybe that i915 support for newer
hardware exists in 4.9 and is actually being used, but is buggy on
Haswell or newer which is why it only appears now.

That said, again, I've been running 4.9 on Sandy Bridge for months and
the issue didn't show up until I started using Debian 9 templates, so
I'm not completely convinced yet that it's 4.9 alone that is the issue.
It could be a combination of things, or Qubes video code interacting
with newer X alongside the i915 driver included in the 4.9 kernel.

Which is why it would really be useful if someone with an AMD or Nvidia
video card could try the same set up and see if this rendering issue
appears or not. If it doesn't, then it'd help rule out if this is a
general problem, or just a problem that appears with Intel video cards.

Another thing you could test is running that app suite on a Fedora 23
template (and even Debian 8 if those apps exist there) to see if the
problem appears. If it does not, then it's more evidence that newer
versions of X might be part of the issue.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Zrubi
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On 06/15/2017 10:02 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 06/15/2017 01:53 PM, Zrubi wrote:

>> Maybe it is a know issue, but: online netvm change on a
>> disposable VM is also broken on the latest 4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes
>> Manager shows it is changed, but not working in practice)
>> 
> I've *never* ever had this work for me (although it might have
> worked once in R3.0 or something old like that); I've always had to
> shut down the Disp VM first, alter the dvm template, and then start
> up a new one in order to change NetVMs.

well this is such a basic feature I would go crazy if that would not
work...

I'm using this feature from the beginning. And it was always working
in general. I remember for some broken kernel releases. But this
feature should work in general. As it is working with my setup, in
case of kernel VM 4.4 - but not in case of VM kernel 4.9


Do we already have any git issues about 4.9 and its currently known
problems?

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 06/15/2017 01:53 PM, Zrubi wrote:
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>
> On 06/15/2017 06:34 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
>
>> Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they
>> running on Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?
> Nope.
> Fedora 24 mainly, and Debian 8
> The later is only for sys-net, so all my taskbar icons coming from a
> F24 based template.
>
Thanks. I don't really use Fedora, but I'll set up a test VM once my
laptop is finished converting this Debian 8 template to 9. Can you list
some apps that this happens with so I can test across a variety of
templates? I'm still leaning towards an X issue, but maybe it's always
been there since Fedora 24, even under kernel 4.9. But I would assume if
that was the case, then more people would have spoken up by now.
>> Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any 
>> Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an
>> issue with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I
>> guess if it works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the
>> three; don't know how to fix it though).
> Maybe it is a know issue, but:
> online netvm change on a disposable VM is also broken on the latest
> 4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes Manager shows it is changed, but not working in
> practice)
>
I've *never* ever had this work for me (although it might have worked
once in R3.0 or something old like that); I've always had to shut down
the Disp VM first, alter the dvm template, and then start up a new one
in order to change NetVMs.

>> I can't play around with this until later today, but in the
>> meantime, what graphics hardware are you running, Zrubi? And which
>> version of 4.4 are you running where things work fine? And finally
>> if you can, if it's an Intel card, can you try booting with this
>> kernel option to see if it makes a difference?
>>
>> i915.preliminary_hw_support=0
> I believe this setting will not affect this chipset. But will try if I
> have a chance. (This is my only Qubes Laptop atm and using it for
> production)
>
> HW details:
>
> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5300U CPU @ 2.30GHz
> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI [8086:1604] (rev 09)
> Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09) (prog-if 00
>
> SW versions:
> Qubes 3.2
> xen: 4.6.5
> kernel: 4.4.62-12
>
It might; if you could try it in both dom0 and vm (and maybe different
combinations if you have the time), that'd be useful to help rule things
out. It's toggled on by default to work around this:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=intel-skl-prelim-support

but maybe it's no longer an issue with 4.9.



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Zrubi
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On 06/15/2017 06:34 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote:

> Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they
> running on Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?

Nope.
Fedora 24 mainly, and Debian 8
The later is only for sys-net, so all my taskbar icons coming from a
F24 based template.


> Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any 
> Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an
> issue with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I
> guess if it works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the
> three; don't know how to fix it though).

Maybe it is a know issue, but:
online netvm change on a disposable VM is also broken on the latest
4.9 VM kernel. (Qubes Manager shows it is changed, but not working in
practice)


> I can't play around with this until later today, but in the
> meantime, what graphics hardware are you running, Zrubi? And which
> version of 4.4 are you running where things work fine? And finally
> if you can, if it's an Intel card, can you try booting with this
> kernel option to see if it makes a difference?
> 
> i915.preliminary_hw_support=0

I believe this setting will not affect this chipset. But will try if I
have a chance. (This is my only Qubes Laptop atm and using it for
production)

HW details:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5300U CPU @ 2.30GHz
Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI [8086:1604] (rev 09)
Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 [8086:1616] (rev 09) (prog-if 00

SW versions:
Qubes 3.2
xen: 4.6.5
kernel: 4.4.62-12



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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 06/15/2017 10:34 AM, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 06/15/2017 05:40 AM, Zrubi wrote:
>> My Lenovo T450 working fine with kernel 4.4
>> Jut tried the latest 4.9.31 and has some interesting graphic related
>> issues:
>>
>> Under KDE, the application icons in the taskbar are messed up. Means
>> broken application images are displayed. Broken means some kind of
>> transition between the last visited desktop icons and the current one.
>> The problem disappear (probably refreshing to a valid icon) by the
>> time. But messing up again if I switch virtual desktops. Which I do
>> very often.
>>
>> A refresh is surely occures if I switch out to a CLI terminal and
>> back. But the result is just temporary, as if I switching virtual
>> desktops the icons are getting messed up again and again.
>>
>> Switched back to kernel 4.4 solved these problems, so it is less
>> likely a hardware bug.
>>
> Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they running on
> Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?
>
> I'll be honest, I primarily run Debian templates and in anticipation of
> the official release of Debian 9 this week, I've been slowly migrating
> my Debian 8 templates to Debian 9, and I've started to notice that
> behaviour as well. It does *not* happen under Debian 8 on kernel 4.9.
> And I've been running 4.9 kernels in dom0 since December. I *have* been
> running Debian 9 as my sys-net for months, though, and the
> NetworkManager applet seems fine. I haven't tested extensively, but for
> me, the IBus (for keyboard langauge switching) icon has a black overlay,
> and when I play music through Rhythmbox on Debian 9, the pop up message
> that displays when a new song is played is a little corrupted (but that
> never happened on the same kernel on Debian 8).
>
> Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any
> Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an issue
> with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I guess if it
> works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the three; don't know
> how to fix it though).
>
> Intel Sandy Bridge is my system; haven't tested on other hardware.
>
>
And to follow up, I just installed 4.9.32 and haven't noticed it as
much, but I've only put in 10 minutes of testing so I can't say for sure
if it was a regression in 4.9.31.

I can't play around with this until later today, but in the meantime,
what graphics hardware are you running, Zrubi? And which version of 4.4
are you running where things work fine? And finally if you can, if it's
an Intel card, can you try booting with this kernel option to see if it
makes a difference?

i915.preliminary_hw_support=0



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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-15 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 06/15/2017 05:40 AM, Zrubi wrote:
> My Lenovo T450 working fine with kernel 4.4
> Jut tried the latest 4.9.31 and has some interesting graphic related
> issues:
>
> Under KDE, the application icons in the taskbar are messed up. Means
> broken application images are displayed. Broken means some kind of
> transition between the last visited desktop icons and the current one.
> The problem disappear (probably refreshing to a valid icon) by the
> time. But messing up again if I switch virtual desktops. Which I do
> very often.
>
> A refresh is surely occures if I switch out to a CLI terminal and
> back. But the result is just temporary, as if I switching virtual
> desktops the icons are getting messed up again and again.
>
> Switched back to kernel 4.4 solved these problems, so it is less
> likely a hardware bug.
>
Curious:  For those apps that exhibit that behavior, are they running on
Debian 9 or Fedora 25 templates?

I'll be honest, I primarily run Debian templates and in anticipation of
the official release of Debian 9 this week, I've been slowly migrating
my Debian 8 templates to Debian 9, and I've started to notice that
behaviour as well. It does *not* happen under Debian 8 on kernel 4.9.
And I've been running 4.9 kernels in dom0 since December. I *have* been
running Debian 9 as my sys-net for months, though, and the
NetworkManager applet seems fine. I haven't tested extensively, but for
me, the IBus (for keyboard langauge switching) icon has a black overlay,
and when I play music through Rhythmbox on Debian 9, the pop up message
that displays when a new song is played is a little corrupted (but that
never happened on the same kernel on Debian 8).

Since it works fine in Debian 8 (I haven't tested much with any
Fedoras), I'm wondering if it's less a kernel issue and more of an issue
with newer X or how Qubes integrates with newer X (but I guess if it
works properly on 4.4, it may be a combination of the three; don't know
how to fix it though).

Intel Sandy Bridge is my system; haven't tested on other hardware.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-02 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 06/01/2017 06:55 AM, Pablo Di Noto wrote:
> Oh, yeah... I have started experiencing quite annoying internet connectivity 
> issues, very, very difficulty to troubleshot. Symptoms are:
>
> - Web browsing fails with ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE, pages load partially never 
> reaching some of the content.
> - SSH sessions can hang while exchanging keys, and if the recover can last 
> for hours.
> - Pinging sys-net from sys-firewall sometimes stops responding, but that does 
> not happen consistently with the higher level issues (browsing from any VM 
> can be impossible, and still ping works) 
>
> After 4 days of troubleshooting (switching browser versions, browser brands, 
> changing templates, replacing openwrt+mwan3 home router with direct 
> connections from ISP demarc to the machine, using different ISPs, doing all 
> the same on a brand new R3.2 + "--enablerepo=qubes*testing", creating new 
> sys-net+sys-firewall based on different templates, and so on...) y have just 
> found that taking a failing setup and setting the kernels of all involved VMs 
> to 4.4.67-12 makes the problem disappear.


For anyone encountering SSL issues with the 4.9.29 kernel, could you add
slub_debug=- to your VM's kernelopts and restart the VM to see if that
helps and report back? The issue may have been identified, but it could
use more feedback.


View your current kernel options:

qvm-prefs -l  kernelopts

Set new kernel options:

qvm-prefs -s  kernelopts "slub_debug=- (and anything else that
was output above)"


Thanks.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-06-01 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 2017-06-01 6:55 AM, Pablo Di Noto wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>> 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9.
> 
> Using it on a Lenovo X250 (i3-5010U), and other desktops.
> 
> Experiencing consistently the "no wifi after resume" which was working fine 
> with 4.4.x

There's a 4.9.29 in current-testing now, try that and see if that works
better. Otherwise, blacklist your module like Patrik Hagara suggested in
his follow up.

The reason why I *think* this is happening is that somewhere in between
4.4 and 4.9, Intel introduced some power management functionality for
wifi cards, but it's buggy. Users of other distros blacklist those
modules to work around it, and other distros like Fedora and Ubuntu have
now resorted to not enabling that option in their kernels. So I took it
out of this one. So try 4.9.29 if you haven't installed it already and
see if that works, although it'll probably not affect wifi cards from
other manufacturers that are having the same issue since it's an
Intel-only option.


>> 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.
> 
> Oh, yeah... I have started experiencing quite annoying internet connectivity 
> issues, very, very difficulty to troubleshot. Symptoms are:
> 
> - Web browsing fails with ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE, pages load partially never 
> reaching some of the content.
> - SSH sessions can hang while exchanging keys, and if the recover can last 
> for hours.
> - Pinging sys-net from sys-firewall sometimes stops responding, but that does 
> not happen consistently with the higher level issues (browsing from any VM 
> can be impossible, and still ping works) 
> 
> After 4 days of troubleshooting (switching browser versions, browser brands, 
> changing templates, replacing openwrt+mwan3 home router with direct 
> connections from ISP demarc to the machine, using different ISPs, doing all 
> the same on a brand new R3.2 + "--enablerepo=qubes*testing", creating new 
> sys-net+sys-firewall based on different templates, and so on...) y have just 
> found that taking a failing setup and setting the kernels of all involved VMs 
> to 4.4.67-12 makes the problem disappear.

Honestly, I have been encountering SSH issues with GitHub recently, but
I've been running 4.9/4.10 and 4.11 kernels on my two machines for
months now, and it's only started happening in the last couple of weeks.
Since it clears up if I wait for a bit (and it's intermittent), I'm not
confident it's a kernel issue unless a regression was introduced
upstream recently. Are your SSH issues just with GitHub, or are they
with other sites as well?

I haven't really noticed the web browsing issues either, so more info or
reports would be useful. Off the top of my head, I can't see how the
kernel would affect that, although I haven't looked into it in depth too
much yet. But my gut tells me that could be a different issue not
related to the kernel.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-24 Thread cyrinux
Thanks I have done this, i will try next 4.9.29 ;)

Le mercredi 24 mai 2017 20:43:11 UTC+2, Reg Tiangha a écrit :
> On 05/24/2017 12:37 PM, cyrinux wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a T450s, and it works well, just this:
> >
> > Seems to have a problem for me, i often miss wireless after suspend.
> > I need to stop firewall and wlan vm to reload iwlwifi driver.
> > No easy to unload iwlwifi, faster to stop and start.
> > I don't remember i have this problem before.
> >
> > No other problems.
> >
> > Thx
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. There should be a work-around in the next
> kernel release, so keep an eye out for a 4.9.29 or higher to appear in
> one of the Qubes repositories and try that one when it comes out. I
> *think* the kernel workaround will work, but it could use some testing
> when it's out.
> 
> In the meantime, you can also work around it locally by blacklisting the
> iwlwifi power management module. In your sys-net, edit
> /rw/config/suspend-module-blacklist and add:
> 
> iwlmvm iwlwifi
> 
> and then reboot the vm. According to other people, that should make the
> wifi stuff work again too.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-24 Thread Cyril
Problem disappears 
following https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/wireless-troubleshooting/ 


Le mercredi 24 mai 2017 20:37:05 UTC+2, Cyril a écrit :
>
> Hi, 
>
> I have a T450s, and it works well, just this: 
>
> Seems to have a problem for me, i often miss wireless after suspend. 
> I need to stop firewall and wlan vm to reload iwlwifi driver. 
> No easy to unload iwlwifi, faster to stop and start. 
> I don't remember i have this problem before. 
>
> No other problems. 
>
> Thx 
>
> Le samedi 20 mai 2017 21:42:50 UTC+2, Reg Tiangha a écrit : 
> > People may not have noticed, but there is now a 4.9 kernel in 
> > current-testing (4.9.28 to be specific). 
> > 
> > If the release schedule holds, then that should be migrated to stable 
> > soon, however, before that happens, some feedback on that kernel would 
> > be useful before it gets pushed to the majority of users. 
> > 
> > Specifically, it'd be nice to know if: 
> > 
> > 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9. 
> > 
> > 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work. 
> > 
> > 3) If newer Intel platforms (i.e. Haswell or newer) works with this 
> > kernel (I took out the Intel ME driver and the newest machine I have 
> > access to is a Sandy Bridge machine; I have no issues, but I wonder if 
> > Haswell or newer is tied more strongly to the Intel ME such that it 
> > actually needs that driver in order t work properly). If there are Intel 
> > hardware issues with this kernel, then I'll re-enable the driver in my 
> > next Pull Request. 
> > 
> > 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel. 
> > 
> > 4.9.29 was just released today, so before I send in a Pull Request, let 
> > me know how 4.9.28 performs and if changes to the kernel config may need 
> > to be made. 
>
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-24 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 05/24/2017 12:37 PM, cyrinux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a T450s, and it works well, just this:
>
> Seems to have a problem for me, i often miss wireless after suspend.
> I need to stop firewall and wlan vm to reload iwlwifi driver.
> No easy to unload iwlwifi, faster to stop and start.
> I don't remember i have this problem before.
>
> No other problems.
>
> Thx

Thanks for the feedback. There should be a work-around in the next
kernel release, so keep an eye out for a 4.9.29 or higher to appear in
one of the Qubes repositories and try that one when it comes out. I
*think* the kernel workaround will work, but it could use some testing
when it's out.

In the meantime, you can also work around it locally by blacklisting the
iwlwifi power management module. In your sys-net, edit
/rw/config/suspend-module-blacklist and add:

iwlmvm iwlwifi

and then reboot the vm. According to other people, that should make the
wifi stuff work again too.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-24 Thread cyrinux
Hi,

I have a T450s, and it works well, just this:

Seems to have a problem for me, i often miss wireless after suspend.
I need to stop firewall and wlan vm to reload iwlwifi driver.
No easy to unload iwlwifi, faster to stop and start.
I don't remember i have this problem before.

No other problems.

Thx

Le samedi 20 mai 2017 21:42:50 UTC+2, Reg Tiangha a écrit :
> People may not have noticed, but there is now a 4.9 kernel in
> current-testing (4.9.28 to be specific).
> 
> If the release schedule holds, then that should be migrated to stable
> soon, however, before that happens, some feedback on that kernel would
> be useful before it gets pushed to the majority of users.
> 
> Specifically, it'd be nice to know if:
> 
> 1) Hardware that used to work with 4.4 or 4.8 no longer works with 4.9.
> 
> 2) Hardware that didn't work with 4.4 or 4.8 still doesn't work.
> 
> 3) If newer Intel platforms (i.e. Haswell or newer) works with this
> kernel (I took out the Intel ME driver and the newest machine I have
> access to is a Sandy Bridge machine; I have no issues, but I wonder if
> Haswell or newer is tied more strongly to the Intel ME such that it
> actually needs that driver in order t work properly). If there are Intel
> hardware issues with this kernel, then I'll re-enable the driver in my
> next Pull Request.
> 
> 4) General feedback on the 4.9 kernel.
> 
> 4.9.29 was just released today, so before I send in a Pull Request, let
> me know how 4.9.28 performs and if changes to the kernel config may need
> to be made.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 05/23/2017 01:16 PM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:40:47 PM UTC+2, Reg Tiangha wrote:
>> On 05/23/2017 10:37 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
>>> It failed to load that module on my PC. (That is, modprobe gave a 'not 
>>> found' error, and keyboard didn't work.)
>> Would you be willing to compile the version found here and help test to
>> see if it also occurs with this version of the tree:
>>
>> https://github.com/rtiangha/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/stable-4.9
>>
>> It's updated to 4.9.29 but I could use a sanity check for this issue
>> before I start digging deeper.
> That one works here
>
Thanks! I'll assume things are good then, at least when it comes to this.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:40:47 PM UTC+2, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 05/23/2017 10:37 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> > It failed to load that module on my PC. (That is, modprobe gave a 'not 
> > found' error, and keyboard didn't work.)
> 
> Would you be willing to compile the version found here and help test to
> see if it also occurs with this version of the tree:
> 
> https://github.com/rtiangha/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/stable-4.9
> 
> It's updated to 4.9.29 but I could use a sanity check for this issue
> before I start digging deeper.

That one works here

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 05/23/2017 10:37 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> It failed to load that module on my PC. (That is, modprobe gave a 'not found' 
> error, and keyboard didn't work.)

Would you be willing to compile the version found here and help test to
see if it also occurs with this version of the tree:

https://github.com/rtiangha/qubes-linux-kernel/tree/stable-4.9

It's updated to 4.9.29 but I could use a sanity check for this issue
before I start digging deeper.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:11:07 PM UTC+2, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 05/23/2017 09:59 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> > mouse+kb connected through sys-usb, yes. I have a ps/2 keyboard for 
> > 'emergencies', but since it's shit, I prefer not to use it. :)
> > Anyway, have rebuilt my own kernel with the option Marek mentioned enabled, 
> > and now it's working as intended.
> 
> 
> That's good to know. So the 4.9.28 that's in current-testing then, does
> that work properly too, or does it fail to load the uinput module?
> Looking at the kernel .config file in the tree, CONFIG_UINPUT=m so that
> module should be present. And module loading is enabled too, so there
> shouldn't be any obvious reason why uinput wouldn't load. But there
> might be some corner cases that I hadn't considered in my testing, so it
> would be nice to iron those out if they're present before the 4.9 branch
> gets pushed out to the masses.

It failed to load that module on my PC. (That is, modprobe gave a 'not found' 
error, and keyboard didn't work.)

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 05/23/2017 09:59 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> mouse+kb connected through sys-usb, yes. I have a ps/2 keyboard for 
> 'emergencies', but since it's shit, I prefer not to use it. :)
> Anyway, have rebuilt my own kernel with the option Marek mentioned enabled, 
> and now it's working as intended.


That's good to know. So the 4.9.28 that's in current-testing then, does
that work properly too, or does it fail to load the uinput module?
Looking at the kernel .config file in the tree, CONFIG_UINPUT=m so that
module should be present. And module loading is enabled too, so there
shouldn't be any obvious reason why uinput wouldn't load. But there
might be some corner cases that I hadn't considered in my testing, so it
would be nice to iron those out if they're present before the 4.9 branch
gets pushed out to the masses.


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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:08:50 PM UTC+2, Reg Tiangha wrote:
> On 05/23/2017 04:41 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> > Done and did run into something somewhat important (usb keyboard/mouse 
> > pass-through no longer functioning properly). I have the same issue with my 
> > own kernel/vm-kernel builds, not yet figured out what's causing this.
> >
> 
> Do you use a sys-usb and have your keyboard/mouse piped in through that,
> or do you use the USB devices connected directly to dom0?
> 
> I have a sys-usb with a USB mouse on both my desktop and laptop, and it
> works as expected. But I use a PS/2 keyboard on the desktop and whatever
> the laptop uses for its keyboard and haven't tested much with a USB
> keyboard. But I would assume that if the USB mouse works, the keyboard
> will too. That said, I haven't tested at all with a USB set up that uses
> dom0 directly, so maybe that's the difference?

mouse+kb connected through sys-usb, yes. I have a ps/2 keyboard for 
'emergencies', but since it's shit, I prefer not to use it. :)
Anyway, have rebuilt my own kernel with the option Marek mentioned enabled, and 
now it's working as intended.

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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 05/23/2017 04:41 AM, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> Done and did run into something somewhat important (usb keyboard/mouse 
> pass-through no longer functioning properly). I have the same issue with my 
> own kernel/vm-kernel builds, not yet figured out what's causing this.
>

Do you use a sys-usb and have your keyboard/mouse piped in through that,
or do you use the USB devices connected directly to dom0?

I have a sys-usb with a USB mouse on both my desktop and laptop, and it
works as expected. But I use a PS/2 keyboard on the desktop and whatever
the laptop uses for its keyboard and haven't tested much with a USB
keyboard. But I would assume that if the USB mouse works, the keyboard
will too. That said, I haven't tested at all with a USB set up that uses
dom0 directly, so maybe that's the difference?


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 3:26:11 PM UTC+2, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
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> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 03:41:37AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> > Done and did run into something somewhat important (usb keyboard/mouse 
> > pass-through no longer functioning properly). I have the same issue with my 
> > own kernel/vm-kernel builds, not yet figured out what's causing this.
> 
> Do you have 'uinput' kernel module loaded in dom0?
> 
> - -- 
> Best Regards,
> Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
> Invisible Things Lab
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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No. Am currently building a new kernel myself to see if that is the problem. 
Will post once I know more 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 03:41:37AM -0700, Foppe de Haan wrote:
> Done and did run into something somewhat important (usb keyboard/mouse 
> pass-through no longer functioning properly). I have the same issue with my 
> own kernel/vm-kernel builds, not yet figured out what's causing this.

Do you have 'uinput' kernel module loaded in dom0?

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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-users] Re: Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-05-23 Thread Foppe de Haan
Done and did run into something somewhat important (usb keyboard/mouse 
pass-through no longer functioning properly). I have the same issue with my own 
kernel/vm-kernel builds, not yet figured out what's causing this.

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