[qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2017-03-15 Thread thinkpad user
On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 8:25:33 PM UTC+4, pixel fairy wrote: > poured some epoxy over where the ram connects to the motherboard modern RAM keeps data after hours after disconnecting in from MB. (wont search that paper now, plz search on your own). there are also physical traces of RAM

[qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-02 Thread Anon
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki: > If you (or someone else) plug a malicious USB device that will exploit > some bug in one of million USB device drivers, it can do whatever it > want with the other USB devices on the same bus. And if that USB > controller live in dom0, it's game over even without

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-02 Thread johnyjukya
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 10:40:23 AM UTC-7, grzegorz@gmail.com > wrote: > >> An actual protection would be some kind of a chemical that would destroy >> the ram chips if they ever reach certain (lower than room) temperature. > > the epoxy is likely to damage them in most means of

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-01 Thread johnyjukya
>> https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/FAQ/#index15h3 > > I've looked at it few years ago and it was outdated/unmaintained at that > time already. I gave up on setting this on Win 7. I bet now it's even > harder. Yes, weird how neglected it is. Do people not write utility software

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 06:55:05AM -, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:05:59PM -, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> I'm curious to some mentions-in-passing about Andrew's hate for USB > >> keyboards.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-01 Thread johnyjukya
> This is scary: > > https://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/usb-rubber-ducky/products/usb-rubber-ducky-deluxe?variant=353378649 Related, and (disturbingly) informative: https://github.com/brandonlw/Psychson JJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-09-01 Thread johnyjukya
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:05:59PM -, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote: >> I'm curious to some mentions-in-passing about Andrew's hate for USB >> keyboards. USB-anything isn't good for security, but what in particular >> so much worse about USB? Both USB and PS/2 can keylog, or play >>

Re: [qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-08-31 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:05:59PM -, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote: > I'm curious to some mentions-in-passing about Andrew's hate for USB > keyboards. USB-anything isn't good for security, but what in particular > so much worse about USB? Both

[qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-08-31 Thread pixel fairy
On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 10:40:23 AM UTC-7, grzegorz@gmail.com wrote: > An actual protection would be some kind of a chemical that would destroy the > ram chips if they ever reach certain (lower than room) temperature. the epoxy is likely to damage them in most means of removal.

[qubes-users] Re: epoxy on ram to prevent cold boot attacks?

2016-08-31 Thread grzegorz . chodzicki
W dniu środa, 31 sierpnia 2016 18:25:33 UTC+2 użytkownik pixel fairy napisał: > poured some epoxy over where the ram connects to the motherboard, and where > the clips are that you would use to take it out. the chips themselves dont > have any, just the surrounding pcb. > > this was couple days