Re: [qubes-users] Debian 8 Template, can't install printers

2016-06-02 Thread Chris Laprise



On 06/02/2016 12:32 AM, Drew White wrote:



On Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:11:32 UTC+10, Chris Laprise wrote:



On 06/01/2016 10:29 PM, Drew White wrote:
>
> The UI he is describing is system-config-printer (Red Hat). He
> could try
> gnome-control-center ->Printers instead. That works for me.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Chris, that is essentially what I did. But not through the
> control center, just directly through the menu system and
> running that exact section.

The gnome utility is not the same as the system-config-printer
utility
(written by Red Hat). The former works fine for me in debian. BTW, I
setup my debian template using 'tasksel' and chose both debian
desktop
and gnome.


Isn't Gnome the Debian Dektop GUI?


All/most of gnome was missing back when I installed the debian template.



>
> I did the same thing in Fedora (RedHat) and it worked fine.
>
> After it detected the printer, it searched for the drivers, didn't
> find them, so I put the OpenDriver file on and installed it.
> RedHat based, easy. Debian based, crashed.

I have been manually choosing from the built-in drivers. For many
printers, you can use a driver with a model number that's close if
there's no exact match.


There is the problem in the first place. That's the bit I can't get 
to, as per my OP.

I can't get THAT far. If I could then I wouldn't be having the issue
and be here trygin to get an answer.


Its only about the 5th step when I do it. I suggest you go in through 
the gnome-control-center, click on the Plus sign, enter the printer IP 
address in the search dialog (printer should then appear, perhaps more 
than once), then select the LPD entry and 'Add'.  At that point you 
should have a driver selection dialog, with manufacturers on the left 
and drivers on the right.




>
> Currently on Debian 8. I don't know if it's a bug in Debian 8
> or not though.

Either in debian or the driver.

It could be something in Debian OR the Qubes Drivers. Not the Printer 
drivers, as I can't even get to the point to select them.




Its also possible something about your debian template became corrupt. 
If so, you could reinstall it.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Debian 8 Template, can't install printers

2016-06-01 Thread Drew White


On Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:11:32 UTC+10, Chris Laprise wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/01/2016 10:29 PM, Drew White wrote: 
> > 
> > The UI he is describing is system-config-printer (Red Hat). He 
> > could try 
> > gnome-control-center ->Printers instead. That works for me. 
> > 
> > Chris 
> > 
> > 
> > Chris, that is essentially what I did. But not through the 
> > control center, just directly through the menu system and 
> > running that exact section. 
>
> The gnome utility is not the same as the system-config-printer utility 
> (written by Red Hat). The former works fine for me in debian. BTW, I 
> setup my debian template using 'tasksel' and chose both debian desktop 
> and gnome. 
>
 
Isn't Gnome the Debian Dektop GUI?

> 
> > I did the same thing in Fedora (RedHat) and it worked fine. 
> > 
> > After it detected the printer, it searched for the drivers, didn't 
> > find them, so I put the OpenDriver file on and installed it. 
> > RedHat based, easy. Debian based, crashed. 
>
> I have been manually choosing from the built-in drivers. For many 
> printers, you can use a driver with a model number that's close if 
> there's no exact match. 
>

There is the problem in the first place. That's the bit I can't get to, as 
per my OP.
I can't get THAT far. If I could then I wouldn't be having the issue
and be here trygin to get an answer.

 

> > 
> > Currently on Debian 8. I don't know if it's a bug in Debian 8 
> > or not though. 
>
> Either in debian or the driver. 
>
It could be something in Debian OR the Qubes Drivers. Not the Printer 
drivers, as I can't even get to the point to select them. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Debian 8 Template, can't install printers

2016-06-01 Thread raahelps
On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 9:12:49 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Saturday, 28 May 2016 04:01:57 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> what printer model?  if its networked as been said you have to temp allow 
> network access.  Maybe you dont' realize your fedora template is being 
> allowed network acess for some reason but the debian one is not?   double 
> check the firewall settings for each.
> 
> It's a Konica Minolta.
> 
> I'll go into more detail for you since you may not be understanding what I 
> meant because I didn't go into enough detail.
> 
> 1. start Print Settings
> 2. click Add button
> 3. click on Network Printer.
> 4. Find Network Printer.
> 6. Enter Host IP of Printer.
> 7. Click Find
> 8. Select Konica Minolta from found printers list.
> 9. Make sure hostname is correct for printer.
> 10. Chance it to the IP instead of hostname and click Probe.
> 11. Ensure the Queue is correct and Connection as well.
> 12. Click Forward
> 13. "Searching for Drivers" dialogue pops up, then vanishes, New Printer 
> window vanishes, Print Settings vanishes.
>   -- All other windows open stay there, it's only the print settings and sub 
> windows that vanish.
>   -- That was the first thing I checked.
>   -- If I perform the same thing in an AppVM, the whole Print Settings and 
> Add Printer all just lock up. instead of vanishing.

How are you starting "print settings"? Did you try system-config-printer 
command from the terminal?  And So it finds the printer on the network but 
crashes when it says searching for drivers?I'm not sure what you mean by 
print settings and sub windows.  Wouldn't print settings be after you install 
it?  Never even heard of that model maybe you have to manually download the 
driver from their website for fedora? not sure.  You could also try asking on 
fedora forums.

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Re: [qubes-users] Debian 8 Template, can't install printers

2016-05-27 Thread raahelps
On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 8:17:22 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> Fedora method: 
> 
> 1. Start Template
> 2. Open Printers Dialog
> 3. Install printer by normal method
> 4. Shut down template.
> complete.

what printer model?  if its networked as been said you have to temp allow 
network access.  Maybe you dont' realize your fedora template is being allowed 
network acess for some reason but the debian one is not?   double check the 
firewall settings for each.

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Re: [qubes-users] Debian 8 Template, can't install printers

2016-05-26 Thread Drew White

Fedora method: 

1. Start Template
2. Open Printers Dialog
3. Install printer by normal method
4. Shut down template.
complete.

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