Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2021-10-02 Thread Franz
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:38 PM unman  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:20:31AM -0800, R A F wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm trying to find a way to sync firefox bookmarks but I do not want to
> use firefox account. So my question to all of you is:
> > Does anyone knows if there is a possible way to create local account
> that will be hosted on standalone VM so I could connect all Firefox Apps to
> connect to that source ans sync bookmarks, plugins, etc. The whole point
> here is to keep all bookmarks in safe place that same way some people keep
> their passwords keys etc.
> > Maybe if there is no such a solution someone could start new project? I
> would do that myself, but currently do not have advanced coding skills :-(
> >
> > Thanks for all replays
> > BR
> > Raf
> >
>
> Search the archives of this list for discussions on this topic: Firefox
> Bookmarks should get you relevant posts, and links to some sample
> scripts.
> The biggest danger is that your bookmarks will carry identifying
> information between qubes, breaking the isolation model. If you plan for
> this and are aware of the risks then you can adopt anything between
> storing/syncing whole profiles between one "storage" qube and other
> qubes, and copy/pasting bookmarks from storage qube in to other firefox
> qubes as needed.
>
>
A "storage" qubes for bookmarks would need to be "charged"  with bookmarks
from various other qubes, which is both cumbersome and potentially risky.

So why not use a cloud system, such as the Bookmark app for Nextcloud,
which is convenient for that and  seems to be available for Android too.
The only risk I see is that the owner of different VMs may be identified as
the same. But if the problem is anonymity at this level, then, when
required, it is better to use a Wonix qube with a different list of
bookmarks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-22 Thread John Goold
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 11:57:26 AM UTC-6, R A F wrote:
> I understand your point here but what if I simply do not want to sync my 
> bookmarks, history etc with the cloud. What if I do not want to share those 
> bookmarks between AppVMs. But what if I need to sync this offline inside 
> AppVM that I use in specific domain? The problem here is that in many cases 
> users are forgetting to backup their goodies and not everyone want to sync 
> all this with cloud account. I'm not expert in that area and trying to find 
> out if anyone know it this type of sync is even possible.
> 
> Thanks Guys.
> Raf

You could set up a local file server of your own, such as “ownCloud” 
https://owncloud.org/

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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-22 Thread John Goold
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 11:57:26 AM UTC-6, R A F wrote:
> I understand your point here but what if I simply do not want to sync my 
> bookmarks, history etc with the cloud. What if I do not want to share those 
> bookmarks between AppVMs. But what if I need to sync this offline inside 
> AppVM that I use in specific domain? The problem here is that in many cases 
> users are forgetting to backup their goodies and not everyone want to sync 
> all this with cloud account. I'm not expert in that area and trying to find 
> out if anyone know it this type of sync is even possible.
> 
> Thanks Guys.
> Raf

If you are using Firefox synchronization, then you can selectively 
enable/disable sync., in each qube. So disable (or do not enable it in the 
first place) in all of your domains EXCEPT the one and only one you want to use 
it in for "backup".  Oh, and ONLY set Firefox to synchronize bookmarks (no 
history, passwords, etc.).

Particularly if you are treating that domain as untrusted, I do not see what 
the problem is. Or am I missing the point of your wanting to synchronize 
bookmarks in that one domain?

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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-21 Thread R A F
I understand your point here but what if I simply do not want to sync my 
bookmarks, history etc with the cloud. What if I do not want to share those 
bookmarks between AppVMs. But what if I need to sync this offline inside AppVM 
that I use in specific domain? The problem here is that in many cases users are 
forgetting to backup their goodies and not everyone want to sync all this with 
cloud account. I'm not expert in that area and trying to find out if anyone 
know it this type of sync is even possible.

Thanks Guys.
Raf

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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-20 Thread 22rip
I am sure there are different opinions out there, but my thoughts would be:

1) Using a "cloud" account to sync is not as secure (somebody can get access, 
change URLs in your book mark account and your potentially owned)
2) Using other 3rd parties is less secure (Personally I don't trust LastPass, I 
also don't think it is open source)
3) Using the 'cloud" to circumvent Qubes isolation is less secure (i.e. 
Password plugin with my passwords in a cloud)

I really like the convenience of a plugin for my passwords but unfortunately I 
don't want to compromise my security even if it is slightly less...I am open 
for another opinion!

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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-20 Thread R A F
What if this could be done that same way as we keep password using keypass?
Identification that wold by separated don't you think and we could have
some more automation ;-)

Raf

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:38 AM unman  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:20:31AM -0800, R A F wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm trying to find a way to sync firefox bookmarks but I do not want to
> use firefox account. So my question to all of you is:
> > Does anyone knows if there is a possible way to create local account
> that will be hosted on standalone VM so I could connect all Firefox Apps to
> connect to that source ans sync bookmarks, plugins, etc. The whole point
> here is to keep all bookmarks in safe place that same way some people keep
> their passwords keys etc.
> > Maybe if there is no such a solution someone could start new project? I
> would do that myself, but currently do not have advanced coding skills :-(
> >
> > Thanks for all replays
> > BR
> > Raf
> >
>
> Search the archives of this list for discussions on this topic: Firefox
> Bookmarks should get you relevant posts, and links to some sample
> scripts.
> The biggest danger is that your bookmarks will carry identifying
> information between qubes, breaking the isolation model. If you plan for
> this and are aware of the risks then you can adopt anything between
> storing/syncing whole profiles between one "storage" qube and other
> qubes, and copy/pasting bookmarks from storage qube in to other firefox
> qubes as needed.
>
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Firefox Account SyncVM

2019-01-17 Thread unman
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:20:31AM -0800, R A F wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I'm trying to find a way to sync firefox bookmarks but I do not want to use 
> firefox account. So my question to all of you is:
> Does anyone knows if there is a possible way to create local account that 
> will be hosted on standalone VM so I could connect all Firefox Apps to 
> connect to that source ans sync bookmarks, plugins, etc. The whole point here 
> is to keep all bookmarks in safe place that same way some people keep their 
> passwords keys etc.
> Maybe if there is no such a solution someone could start new project? I would 
> do that myself, but currently do not have advanced coding skills :-(
> 
> Thanks for all replays 
> BR
> Raf
> 

Search the archives of this list for discussions on this topic: Firefox
Bookmarks should get you relevant posts, and links to some sample
scripts.
The biggest danger is that your bookmarks will carry identifying
information between qubes, breaking the isolation model. If you plan for
this and are aware of the risks then you can adopt anything between
storing/syncing whole profiles between one "storage" qube and other
qubes, and copy/pasting bookmarks from storage qube in to other firefox
qubes as needed.



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