Re: [qubes-users] Hardware Report & "fast SSD" Question

2020-03-25 Thread unman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:15:19AM +0100, haaber wrote:
> On 3/25/20 9:08 AM, tsc.v...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi - I didn't see my laptop in the list so looked everything up. It
> > seems the Lenovo Ideapad 131 151KB supports everything but SSD. I assume
> > I would have to replace my internal hard drive with the SSD since an
> > external SSD would, I assume, get bottlenecked by any USB connection to
> > the motherboard. I need Qubes for only a few select simple tasks that
> > require few resources, so my question is - could I get by under these
> > conditions or is SSD considered absolutely necessary? Thanks for any advice!
> 
> Hi qubes does work without ssd (my first installs did not have one). But
> speed, especially booting-times (xen & vm's) are 3-4 times longer. If
> you open a temporary vm every minute, that is annoying, but for 'normal'
> use no ssd is required to my best knowedge. Just a bit of patience :)
> Bernhard

Second this - you can indeed use HDD and Qubes will work fine. For what
you describe it will work well.
You wont need to *make* a cup of coffee while opening a new qube, but
perhaps *take a sip* .
A while back I posted comparison times between SSD and HDD, RAM - you'll
see that the HDD is slower but works

Incidentally, working off USB is (relatively) fine. I have a few sticks
including a live Qubes that runs in RAM and they all perform  fine. For
your use case dont exclude that.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Hardware Report & "fast SSD" Question

2020-03-25 Thread haaber

On 3/25/20 9:08 AM, tsc.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi - I didn't see my laptop in the list so looked everything up. It
seems the Lenovo Ideapad 131 151KB supports everything but SSD. I assume
I would have to replace my internal hard drive with the SSD since an
external SSD would, I assume, get bottlenecked by any USB connection to
the motherboard. I need Qubes for only a few select simple tasks that
require few resources, so my question is - could I get by under these
conditions or is SSD considered absolutely necessary? Thanks for any advice!


Hi qubes does work without ssd (my first installs did not have one). But
speed, especially booting-times (xen & vm's) are 3-4 times longer. If
you open a temporary vm every minute, that is annoying, but for 'normal'
use no ssd is required to my best knowedge. Just a bit of patience :)
Bernhard

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