Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-08 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-07 15:12, jefferson_pla...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I realised I had been making a mistake when following the "whonix
> 12 to 13" guide. I deleted my post so that I could probe some
> other issues before returning with a revised and updated reply.
> However I found my other issues to be resolved.
> 
> The meta packages problem is resolved. However each boot up the 
> sys-firewall NetworkManager issue returns. Hoping this is not a
> risk to security or function. Everything else at this time seems in
> order
> 

- From what I gather, the extra nm-applet issue seems to be mainly
cosmetic. (Normally it's hidden, but in some cases for some reason
there is a failure to hide it.) Thank you for your report. We're
tracking the issue here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2159

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Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-07 Thread jefferson_plague
Hello all,

I realised I had been making a mistake when following the "whonix 12 to 13" 
guide. I deleted my post so that I could probe some other issues before 
returning with a revised and updated reply. However I found my other issues to 
be resolved. 

The meta packages problem is resolved. However each boot up the sys-firewall 
NetworkManager issue returns. Hoping this is not a risk to security or 
function. Everything else at this time seems in order

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Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-07 Thread Qubed One
Qubed One:
> jefferson_pla...@hotmail.com:
>> Hello Andrew 
>>
>>> This is the NetworkManager applet running in sys-firewall. Normally,
>>> sys-firewall is connected to sys-net for network access, and the
>>> NetworkManager applet only runs in sys-net. (The situation can be
>>> different if you're running things like VPN VMs, but we'll set those
>>> aside here.)
>>>
>>> In short: the NetworkManager applet shouldn't be visible in
>>> sys-firewall in the first place, but it's not a big problem (just a
>>> confusing one). There's normally a script that hides it, but in your
>>> case, that's not working for some reason.
>>
>> My set up is standard with the only change from fresh installation being the 
>> updating of templates and dom0. Is this difference of NetworkManager 
>> appearing an indication of any loss of function or security?
>>
>>> So, are you still having problems updating dom0 and your templates? If 
>>> so, can you explain the problems? 
>>
>> There were issues with dom0. The link below give the solution:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/errno$2014$20curl$2337/qubes-users/zMETrlPMqng/GcwIPcZ8BQAJ
>>
>> The whonix templates were difficult. I was able to update them however I 
>> still get a whonixcheck error for the whonix gateway. It reads "WARNING: 
>> Whonix Meta Packages Test Result: Whonix-Gateway detected, but the meta 
>> package qubes-whonix-gateway is not installed. Did you accidentally 
>> uninstall it?"
>>
>> I followed the steps from this discussion:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/meta$20package$20qubes-whonix-gateway$20is$20not$20installed/qubes-users/P2BTCOPcTnU/xHXxMEzLPwAJ
>>
>> This did not work:
>> "sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-workstation" on WS template
>> "sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-gateway" on GW template. 
>>
>> Another similar command to the two above worked. However the autoremove 
>> command did not work. I was root and met the requirements it seemed to need. 
>>
>> The sanity check from here did not work, returning 1 instead of 0. The 
>> command was not recognised:
>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whonix.org%2Fwiki%2FUpgrading_Whonix_12_to_Whonix_13=D=1=AFQjCNGFl1_nVVp9x0MIL9am3BnI9-vOlA
>>
>> I would like to learn how to fix this meta package error. From what I have 
>> read here it would be a risk to my security to bypass this issue.
>> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Whonix_Debian_Packages#What_is_the_disadvantage_of_removing_a_meta_package.3F
> 
> 
> These steps worked for me (sorry, can't find the source that directed me
> here. It mentioned something about upgrading Whonix from 12 to 13
> without realizing it.):
> 
> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Upgrading_Whonix_12_to_Whonix_13


Sorry again, it appears you've already tried that. I need to read more
thoroughly before replying...


>> Thank you for providing some sources. Are there any that I can learn to 
>> better navigate qubes and use basic code? I will keep looking through the 
>> documentation. Aside for running an update on a VM is there anyway to check 
>> if the VM (or dom0) is up to date?
>>
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-07 Thread Qubed One
jefferson_pla...@hotmail.com:
> Hello Andrew 
> 
>> This is the NetworkManager applet running in sys-firewall. Normally,
>> sys-firewall is connected to sys-net for network access, and the
>> NetworkManager applet only runs in sys-net. (The situation can be
>> different if you're running things like VPN VMs, but we'll set those
>> aside here.)
>>
>> In short: the NetworkManager applet shouldn't be visible in
>> sys-firewall in the first place, but it's not a big problem (just a
>> confusing one). There's normally a script that hides it, but in your
>> case, that's not working for some reason.
> 
> My set up is standard with the only change from fresh installation being the 
> updating of templates and dom0. Is this difference of NetworkManager 
> appearing an indication of any loss of function or security?
> 
>> So, are you still having problems updating dom0 and your templates? If 
>> so, can you explain the problems? 
> 
> There were issues with dom0. The link below give the solution:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/errno$2014$20curl$2337/qubes-users/zMETrlPMqng/GcwIPcZ8BQAJ
> 
> The whonix templates were difficult. I was able to update them however I 
> still get a whonixcheck error for the whonix gateway. It reads "WARNING: 
> Whonix Meta Packages Test Result: Whonix-Gateway detected, but the meta 
> package qubes-whonix-gateway is not installed. Did you accidentally uninstall 
> it?"
> 
> I followed the steps from this discussion:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/meta$20package$20qubes-whonix-gateway$20is$20not$20installed/qubes-users/P2BTCOPcTnU/xHXxMEzLPwAJ
> 
> This did not work:
> "sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-workstation" on WS template
> "sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-gateway" on GW template. 
> 
> Another similar command to the two above worked. However the autoremove 
> command did not work. I was root and met the requirements it seemed to need. 
> 
> The sanity check from here did not work, returning 1 instead of 0. The 
> command was not recognised:
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whonix.org%2Fwiki%2FUpgrading_Whonix_12_to_Whonix_13=D=1=AFQjCNGFl1_nVVp9x0MIL9am3BnI9-vOlA
> 
> I would like to learn how to fix this meta package error. From what I have 
> read here it would be a risk to my security to bypass this issue.
> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Whonix_Debian_Packages#What_is_the_disadvantage_of_removing_a_meta_package.3F


These steps worked for me (sorry, can't find the source that directed me
here. It mentioned something about upgrading Whonix from 12 to 13
without realizing it.):

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Upgrading_Whonix_12_to_Whonix_13


> Thank you for providing some sources. Are there any that I can learn to 
> better navigate qubes and use basic code? I will keep looking through the 
> documentation. Aside for running an update on a VM is there anyway to check 
> if the VM (or dom0) is up to date?
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-07 Thread jefferson_plague
Hello Andrew 

> This is the NetworkManager applet running in sys-firewall. Normally,
> sys-firewall is connected to sys-net for network access, and the
> NetworkManager applet only runs in sys-net. (The situation can be
> different if you're running things like VPN VMs, but we'll set those
> aside here.)
> 
> In short: the NetworkManager applet shouldn't be visible in
> sys-firewall in the first place, but it's not a big problem (just a
> confusing one). There's normally a script that hides it, but in your
> case, that's not working for some reason.

My set up is standard with the only change from fresh installation being the 
updating of templates and dom0. Is this difference of NetworkManager appearing 
an indication of any loss of function or security?

>So, are you still having problems updating dom0 and your templates? If 
>so, can you explain the problems? 

There were issues with dom0. The link below give the solution:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/errno$2014$20curl$2337/qubes-users/zMETrlPMqng/GcwIPcZ8BQAJ

The whonix templates were difficult. I was able to update them however I still 
get a whonixcheck error for the whonix gateway. It reads "WARNING: Whonix Meta 
Packages Test Result: Whonix-Gateway detected, but the meta package 
qubes-whonix-gateway is not installed. Did you accidentally uninstall it?"

I followed the steps from this discussion:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/meta$20package$20qubes-whonix-gateway$20is$20not$20installed/qubes-users/P2BTCOPcTnU/xHXxMEzLPwAJ

This did not work:
"sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-workstation" on WS template
"sudo apt-get install qubes-whonix-gateway" on GW template. 

Another similar command to the two above worked. However the autoremove command 
did not work. I was root and met the requirements it seemed to need. 

The sanity check from here did not work, returning 1 instead of 0. The command 
was not recognised:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whonix.org%2Fwiki%2FUpgrading_Whonix_12_to_Whonix_13=D=1=AFQjCNGFl1_nVVp9x0MIL9am3BnI9-vOlA

I would like to learn how to fix this meta package error. From what I have read 
here it would be a risk to my security to bypass this issue.
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Whonix_Debian_Packages#What_is_the_disadvantage_of_removing_a_meta_package.3F

Thank you for providing some sources. Are there any that I can learn to better 
navigate qubes and use basic code? I will keep looking through the 
documentation. Aside for running an update on a VM is there anyway to check if 
the VM (or dom0) is up to date?

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Re: [qubes-users] Networking Disabled - cannot enable NetworkManager Applet [sys-firewall]

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-06 00:04, Marco D'emet wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Recently I have installed Qubes-whonix. To begin with I had
> trouble updating dom0 and the VM templates, alongside this I had
> tor bootstrapping errors which highlighted an issue with not being
> able to download the meta packages for both whonix-gw and
> whonix-ws templates. I resolved this issue and lastly updated the
> fedora template VM. After reboot tor was then able to connect
> however in the system tray a new icon appeared with two desktops
> and a red cross square, hovering over it read  'Networking
> disabled'. What is this issue and how do I resolve it?
> 
> Further details, When I right click the icon the prompt to 'enable 
> networking' is shaded out. When I click the 'about' prompt I get
> the window title '[sys-firewall] About NetworkManager Applet',
> inside it reads that it is NetworkManager Applet 1.0.10.
> 

This is the NetworkManager applet running in sys-firewall. Normally,
sys-firewall is connected to sys-net for network access, and the
NetworkManager applet only runs in sys-net. (The situation can be
different if you're running things like VPN VMs, but we'll set those
aside here.)

In short: the NetworkManager applet shouldn't be visible in
sys-firewall in the first place, but it's not a big problem (just a
confusing one). There's normally a script that hides it, but in your
case, that's not working for some reason.

You should be able to kill the applet by opening a terminal in
sys-firewall, then running:

$ sudo kill $(pidof nm-applet)

See this thread for a similar discussion:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/DMqWMAi8EP0/discussion

> I have read many other discussions in this group and none have a 
> solution that works. I am very new so I apologise for not being
> able to provide more information. As an aside it would be helpful
> if in addition to helping me solve this problem I might also be
> directed to sources which will let me better learn how to
> understand and work with qubes.
> 

The main sources are our documentation:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/

And our mailing lists:

https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/

> Lastly, I have tried updating all templates and dom0, as I said I 
> have tried the solutions found elsewhere regarding enabling 
> networkmanager.dispatcher. I have tried as much as I know or 
> understand. Looking forward to some resolution to diminish 
> frustrations of qubes.
> 

So, are you still having problems updating dom0 and your templates? If
so, can you explain the problems?

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