Re: [qubes-users] R4.0 testing: Widget shows spinners / Kill for running VMs

2018-03-08 Thread Yuraeitha 
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 4:42:55 AM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 03/07/2018 10:24 PM, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 3:53:48 AM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:
> >> On 03/07/2018 09:32 PM, 799 wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Am 08.03.2018 2:01 vorm. schrieb "Chris Laprise"  >>> >:
> >>>
> >>>  Having just upgraded dom0 with qubes*testing, I noticed that nearly
> >>>  all of my running VMs are being displayed by the 'Q' widget as if
> >>>  they were in a pre-started or pre-halted state.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wouldn't it makes sense to create one GitHub page for each new release,
> >>> where users can provide a quick feedback when there testing the new 
> >>> release.
> >>> I know it is also possible to raise an issue but it takes more time and
> >>> is not that convenient for users to look at and the list of open topics
> >>> could be placed on the Qubes Website, so that a user has a single
> >>> go-to-place to find out if he wants to take the chance testing out the
> >>> new release.
> >>>
> >>> I am currently reading all posts to make a decision, should I upgrade yet?
> >>> Having a bullet point list on a GitHub page would be nice, maybe later
> >>> referencing to the issue-tracker and deleted as soon the problem is fixed?
> >>> Could also be maintained by the community with a disclaimer (Warning:
> >>> blaba..)
> >>>
> >>> [799]
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm using the testing repo, not the regular rc5 release. I don't think
> >> this would impact you if you upgraded to rc5.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
> >> https://github.com/tasket
> >> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> >> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886
> > 
> > Same experience as this? https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3660
> > It's from RC-3 to RC-5, maybe as you suggested a pure RC-5 re-install 
> > doesn't have this issue? Albeit this particular bug seems to be a visual 
> > issue, did you find anything else bugging?
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the link. That appears to be it.
> 
> Its a bit more than visual, since my menus choices are adversely 
> affected (i.e. I should have 'Shutdown' available). Maybe this is the 
> kick I need to adapt my keyboard shortcut VM shutdown script.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
> https://github.com/tasket
> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886

Good point, that appears to work. I can shutdown with either "qvm-shutdown" in 
dom0 or "shutdown -h now" in the AppVM. This is a bit off-topic, but it shows 
an interesting perspective though, that it takes a while to shutdown when done 
from within the AppVM. I noticed the same on standalone VM's, such as windows. 
It could be problematic if Windows is shutdown via the widget and it shutsdown 
prematurely, which it seems like it might do after updates? But VM's like 
Windows are not made to handle that? Updates don't process unless shutdown via 
the windows own shutdown commands and give it some patience, by the looks of 
it. It's had me a bit puzzled. But anyway, didn't want to venture off-topic 
here, it just reminded me of this puzzling system VM shutdown behavior that I 
haven't figured out yet.

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Re: [qubes-users] R4.0 testing: Widget shows spinners / Kill for running VMs

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Laprise 

On 03/07/2018 10:24 PM, Yuraeitha wrote:

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 3:53:48 AM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 03/07/2018 09:32 PM, 799 wrote:

Hello,

Am 08.03.2018 2:01 vorm. schrieb "Chris Laprise" >:

 Having just upgraded dom0 with qubes*testing, I noticed that nearly
 all of my running VMs are being displayed by the 'Q' widget as if
 they were in a pre-started or pre-halted state.


Wouldn't it makes sense to create one GitHub page for each new release,
where users can provide a quick feedback when there testing the new release.
I know it is also possible to raise an issue but it takes more time and
is not that convenient for users to look at and the list of open topics
could be placed on the Qubes Website, so that a user has a single
go-to-place to find out if he wants to take the chance testing out the
new release.

I am currently reading all posts to make a decision, should I upgrade yet?
Having a bullet point list on a GitHub page would be nice, maybe later
referencing to the issue-tracker and deleted as soon the problem is fixed?
Could also be maintained by the community with a disclaimer (Warning:
blaba..)

[799]



I'm using the testing repo, not the regular rc5 release. I don't think
this would impact you if you upgraded to rc5.

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https://twitter.com/ttaskett
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Same experience as this? https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3660
It's from RC-3 to RC-5, maybe as you suggested a pure RC-5 re-install doesn't 
have this issue? Albeit this particular bug seems to be a visual issue, did you 
find anything else bugging?



Thanks for the link. That appears to be it.

Its a bit more than visual, since my menus choices are adversely 
affected (i.e. I should have 'Shutdown' available). Maybe this is the 
kick I need to adapt my keyboard shortcut VM shutdown script.


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Re: [qubes-users] R4.0 testing: Widget shows spinners / Kill for running VMs

2018-03-07 Thread Yuraeitha 
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 3:53:48 AM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 03/07/2018 09:32 PM, 799 wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Am 08.03.2018 2:01 vorm. schrieb "Chris Laprise"  > >:
> > 
> > Having just upgraded dom0 with qubes*testing, I noticed that nearly
> > all of my running VMs are being displayed by the 'Q' widget as if
> > they were in a pre-started or pre-halted state.
> > 
> > 
> > Wouldn't it makes sense to create one GitHub page for each new release, 
> > where users can provide a quick feedback when there testing the new release.
> > I know it is also possible to raise an issue but it takes more time and 
> > is not that convenient for users to look at and the list of open topics 
> > could be placed on the Qubes Website, so that a user has a single 
> > go-to-place to find out if he wants to take the chance testing out the 
> > new release.
> > 
> > I am currently reading all posts to make a decision, should I upgrade yet?
> > Having a bullet point list on a GitHub page would be nice, maybe later 
> > referencing to the issue-tracker and deleted as soon the problem is fixed?
> > Could also be maintained by the community with a disclaimer (Warning: 
> > blaba..)
> > 
> > [799]
> > 
> 
> I'm using the testing repo, not the regular rc5 release. I don't think 
> this would impact you if you upgraded to rc5.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
> https://github.com/tasket
> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886

Same experience as this? https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3660
It's from RC-3 to RC-5, maybe as you suggested a pure RC-5 re-install doesn't 
have this issue? Albeit this particular bug seems to be a visual issue, did you 
find anything else bugging?

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Re: [qubes-users] R4.0 testing: Widget shows spinners / Kill for running VMs

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Laprise 

On 03/07/2018 09:32 PM, 799 wrote:

Hello,

Am 08.03.2018 2:01 vorm. schrieb "Chris Laprise" >:


Having just upgraded dom0 with qubes*testing, I noticed that nearly
all of my running VMs are being displayed by the 'Q' widget as if
they were in a pre-started or pre-halted state.


Wouldn't it makes sense to create one GitHub page for each new release, 
where users can provide a quick feedback when there testing the new release.
I know it is also possible to raise an issue but it takes more time and 
is not that convenient for users to look at and the list of open topics 
could be placed on the Qubes Website, so that a user has a single 
go-to-place to find out if he wants to take the chance testing out the 
new release.


I am currently reading all posts to make a decision, should I upgrade yet?
Having a bullet point list on a GitHub page would be nice, maybe later 
referencing to the issue-tracker and deleted as soon the problem is fixed?
Could also be maintained by the community with a disclaimer (Warning: 
blaba..)


[799]



I'm using the testing repo, not the regular rc5 release. I don't think 
this would impact you if you upgraded to rc5.


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https://twitter.com/ttaskett
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Re: [qubes-users] R4.0 testing: Widget shows spinners / Kill for running VMs

2018-03-07 Thread 799 
Hello,

Am 08.03.2018 2:01 vorm. schrieb "Chris Laprise" :

Having just upgraded dom0 with qubes*testing, I noticed that nearly all of
my running VMs are being displayed by the 'Q' widget as if they were in a
pre-started or pre-halted state.


Wouldn't it makes sense to create one GitHub page for each new release,
where users can provide a quick feedback when there testing the new release.
I know it is also possible to raise an issue but it takes more time and is
not that convenient for users to look at and the list of open topics could
be placed on the Qubes Website, so that a user has a single go-to-place to
find out if he wants to take the chance testing out the new release.

I am currently reading all posts to make a decision, should I upgrade yet?
Having a bullet point list on a GitHub page would be nice, maybe later
referencing to the issue-tracker and deleted as soon the problem is fixed?
Could also be maintained by the community with a disclaimer (Warning:
blaba..)

[799]

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