Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-11-01 Thread Andrew David Wong

On 10/31/20 11:55 PM, Alex Smirnoff wrote:

I had to update it first. Also, removed rhgb to get around the password
prompt bug.
What an amazing system! I installed it to evaluate if it is suitable for
our company environment and instantly fell in love with it. However, the
answer to my main question is still "no" :(. Unless we buy certified
hardware for everyone, at least,


If certified hardware is prohibitive for your company, you might 
investigate the ThinkPad X and T series within the past few years, 
beginning around the time of the X1 Carbon Gen 5. There may be certain 
problems (e.g., AEM or suspend not working), but they might still work 
well enough, depending on what your needs are.



and some of us badly need properly working
Win10 guest with seamless desktop app integration and clipboard :(



Depending on why Win10 VMs are needed, there might be alternatives 
available, e.g., cloud apps or a Windows machine on your local network 
that can be accessed remotely from the Qubes machines.



On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:28:26 PM UTC+2 Ludovic Bellier wrote:


Le 30/10/2020 à 19:52, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :

Now, that's strange! my dom0 is on the latest kernel, but sys-net is
not, so, no network there.


Its normal, all VMs keep the default kernel, not the latest.

You should change the sys-net VM kernel to latest:

- open Qube Manager

- select sys-net

- right clic, choose Qube-settings

- Advanced tab, change the kernel to 5.x.x

- Apply and restart sys-net



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-31 Thread Alex Smirnoff
I had to update it first. Also, removed rhgb to get around the password 
prompt bug. 
What an amazing system! I installed it to evaluate if it is suitable for 
our company environment and instantly fell in love with it. However, the 
answer to my main question is still "no" :(. Unless we buy certified 
hardware for everyone, at least, and some of us badly need properly working 
Win10 guest with seamless desktop app integration and clipboard :(

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:28:26 PM UTC+2 Ludovic Bellier wrote:

> Le 30/10/2020 à 19:52, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
> > Now, that's strange! my dom0 is on the latest kernel, but sys-net is 
> > not, so, no network there.
> >
> Its normal, all VMs keep the default kernel, not the latest.
>
> You should change the sys-net VM kernel to latest:
>
> - open Qube Manager
>
> - select sys-net
>
> - right clic, choose Qube-settings
>
> - Advanced tab, change the kernel to 5.x.x
>
> - Apply and restart sys-net
>
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Ludovic Bellier

Le 30/10/2020 à 19:52, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
Now, that's strange! my dom0 is on the latest kernel, but sys-net is 
not, so, no network there.



Its normal, all VMs keep the default kernel, not the latest.

You should change the sys-net VM kernel to latest:

- open Qube Manager

- select sys-net

- right clic, choose Qube-settings

- Advanced tab, change the kernel to 5.x.x

- Apply and restart sys-net

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Alex Smirnoff
Now, that's strange! my dom0 is on the latest kernel, but sys-net is not, 
so, no network there.


>
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Alex Smirnoff
apparently I messed with the keyboard somehow, I cannot type in the password. 
it ignores all keystrokes :(




Sent from my BlackBerry -- I don't believe it's more secure, but I've got a 
physical keyboard!



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Le 30/10/2020 à 17:57, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
> Ah, apparently it was just a glitch, second time I tried my keyboard
> remained functional.

Good.

> However, still no luck: after I updated dom0 to the latest kernel, my
> Qubes system just got stuck on "Enter disk password" stage. I see some
> corrupted image below

It's same for me, I see the corrupted image on each boot (since 6 months
now), but (on my host) it's only a display problem, I can give the disk
password (you should see the bullet [3] for each character) and the boot
process continues. Note that this step concerns giving the LUKS
credentials (not the user password!), and the GUI you see is Plymouth
[1] with this artwork [2].

> which slightly changes over time, and that's it. And I cannot switch
> to text console to see what is happening there like I could on a
> regular linux. WIll try booting from a rescue image now. Anyway, Qubes
> on NUC10 is apparently very unstable. I wonder why there is no ISO
> image with the latest kernel already in place.
>
You can't switch to tty (text console) because the boot process is on
the LUKS uncryption step, so the rootfs isn't yet available (so the init
process isn't launch and neither the login process).

Don't worry, Qubes OS on NUC10 is stable, I use it daily.

I agree an ISO image with, on start, the choice between default or
latest kernel will be great.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Plymouth

[2] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-artwork/tree/master/plymouth/qubes-dark

[3]
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-artwork/blob/master/plymouth/qubes-dark/bullet.png

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Ludovic Bellier

Le 30/10/2020 à 17:57, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
Ah, apparently it was just a glitch, second time I tried my keyboard 
remained functional.


Good.

However, still no luck: after I updated dom0 to the latest kernel, my 
Qubes system just got stuck on "Enter disk password" stage. I see some 
corrupted image below


It's same for me, I see the corrupted image on each boot (since 6 months 
now), but (on my host) it's only a display problem, I can give the disk 
password (you should see the bullet [3] for each character) and the boot 
process continues. Note that this step concerns giving the LUKS 
credentials (not the user password!), and the GUI you see is Plymouth 
[1] with this artwork [2].


which slightly changes over time, and that's it. And I cannot switch 
to text console to see what is happening there like I could on a 
regular linux. WIll try booting from a rescue image now. Anyway, Qubes 
on NUC10 is apparently very unstable. I wonder why there is no ISO 
image with the latest kernel already in place.


You can't switch to tty (text console) because the boot process is on 
the LUKS uncryption step, so the rootfs isn't yet available (so the init 
process isn't launch and neither the login process).


Don't worry, Qubes OS on NUC10 is stable, I use it daily.

I agree an ISO image with, on start, the choice between default or 
latest kernel will be great.


[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Plymouth

[2] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-artwork/tree/master/plymouth/qubes-dark

[3] 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-artwork/blob/master/plymouth/qubes-dark/bullet.png


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Alex Smirnoff
Ah, apparently it was just a glitch, second time I tried my keyboard 
remained functional.
However, still no luck: after I updated dom0 to the latest kernel, my Qubes 
system just got stuck on "Enter disk password" stage. I see some corrupted 
image below which slightly changes over time, and that's it. And I cannot 
switch to text console to see what is happening there like I could on a 
regular linux. WIll try booting from a rescue image now. Anyway, Qubes on 
NUC10 is apparently very unstable. I wonder why there is no ISO image with 
the latest kernel already in place.

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 6:53:29 PM UTC+2 Ludovic Bellier wrote:

> Le 30/10/2020 à 16:37, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
> > How did you set up the sys-usb qube without losing the USB keyboard 
> > and mouse?
> >
> Hi Alex,
>
> I followed the Qubes documentation, first I added the sys-usb Qube 
> [1], then I added my USB keyboard available for login [2].
>
>
> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb-qubes/#creating-and-using-a-usb-qube
>
> dom0/Terminal : sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.sys-usb
>
> [2] 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb-qubes/#enable-a-usb-keyboard-for-login
>
> dom0/Terminal : sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.usb-keyboard
>
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-10-30 Thread Ludovic Bellier

Le 30/10/2020 à 16:37, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
How did you set up the sys-usb qube without losing the USB keyboard 
and mouse?



Hi Alex,

    I followed the Qubes documentation, first I added the sys-usb Qube 
[1], then I added my USB keyboard available for login [2].



[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb-qubes/#creating-and-using-a-usb-qube

dom0/Terminal : sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.sys-usb

[2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb-qubes/#enable-a-usb-keyboard-for-login

dom0/Terminal : sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.usb-keyboard

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-07-24 Thread zhao...@gmail.com
Thank you ! I realy need it!  :)

在2020年7月25日星期六 UTC+8 上午2:01:26 写道:

> On 7/24/20 5:51 PM, Zhao Jx wrote:
>
>
> 在 2020年4月14日星期二 UTC+8上午2:07:16,Max Andersen写道: 
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> NUC's are promising. 64GB memory with 1TB NVMe is acceptable for a Qubes 
>> installation and takes up zero space.
>>
>> Got 800x600 with the 4.19 kernel. no wifi. Upgraded kernel to 5.5.13-1 
>> and got my 4K monitor working. no wifi. wifi device flapping for a few 
>> minutes, then stop. Hoping for some upgrades at some point.
>>
>> Runs current-testing repo.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Max
>>
>
> Thanks for the post!
> I also have nuc 10i7fnk. but I have problems installing qubes OS 4.0.  I 
> hope I can get answers from you.
> I Set legecy mode, security booting off, use USB stick to install OS.
> The following warning maseges&error is displayed when installing.
> "WARN anaconda: 
> /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages/pyanaconda/pwpolicy.py:101:PendingDeprecationWarning:
>  
> add_option is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use 
> add_argument instead.
>op.add.option("--minlen",type="int")
> ..
> WARN anaconda.stdout:Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network
> .. 
> WARN anaconda:X startup failed: Xorg exited with status 1
> WARN anaconda.stdout:X startup failed,aborting installation
> ERR anaconda.stdout:X startup failed, aboting installation"
>
> Do I miss setting something in bios or do I need to install the OS with 
> DVD?
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
> I recently moved to Xubuntu on this device, since QubesOS suddenly would 
> not boot anymore. Just hung and my 4K support dissapeared suddenly a few 
> weeks prior to that.
>
> I am sorry it's such a hassle. Kali, Ubuntu, etc. has no issues with 
> wireless so it seems to be Qubes specific.
>
> Good luck. You will need it. 
>
> Sincerely
>
> Max
>
>
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Intel NUC10i7FNK

2020-07-24 Thread 'Max Andersen' via qubes-users
On 7/24/20 5:51 PM, Zhao Jx wrote:
>
> 在 2020年4月14日星期二 UTC+8上午2:07:16,Max Andersen写道:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> NUC's are promising. 64GB memory with 1TB NVMe is acceptable for a
> Qubes installation and takes up zero space.
>
> Got 800x600 with the 4.19 kernel. no wifi. Upgraded kernel to
> 5.5.13-1 and got my 4K monitor working. no wifi. wifi device
> flapping for a few minutes, then stop. Hoping for some upgrades at
> some point.
>
> Runs current-testing repo.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Max
>
>
> Thanks for the post!
> I also have nuc 10i7fnk. but I have problems installing qubes OS 4.0. 
> I hope I can get answers from you.
> I Set legecy mode, security booting off, use USB stick to install OS.
> The following warning maseges&error is displayed when installing.
> "WARN anaconda:
> /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages/pyanaconda/pwpolicy.py:101:PendingDeprecationWarning:
> add_option is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use
> add_argument instead.
>    op.add.option("--minlen",type="int")
> ..
> WARN anaconda.stdout:Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network
> ..
> WARN anaconda:X startup failed: Xorg exited with status 1
> WARN anaconda.stdout:X startup failed,aborting installation
> ERR anaconda.stdout:X startup failed, aboting installation"
>
> Do I miss setting something in bios or do I need to install the OS
> with DVD?
> Thanks a lot!


I recently moved to Xubuntu on this device, since QubesOS suddenly would
not boot anymore. Just hung and my 4K support dissapeared suddenly a few
weeks prior to that.

I am sorry it's such a hassle. Kali, Ubuntu, etc. has no issues with
wireless so it seems to be Qubes specific.

Good luck. You will need it.

Sincerely

Max


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