Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread Franz
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 4:14 PM, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users < qubes-users@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:10:44 CET Yuraeitha wrote: > > Also it's been explicitly said that no Qubes 4 existing features will be > > added to the new-old Qube Manager. Which might also hint

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Dubois
On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:22:26 UTC, awokd wrote: > On Tue, February 6, 2018 11:09 pm, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > I do not address the main part because I believe there is a bug with > > /rw/config/qubes-firewall-user-script not triggering on network change > > that I want to report and get

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Tue, February 6, 2018 11:09 pm, Alex Dubois wrote: > I do not address the main part because I believe there is a bug with > /rw/config/qubes-firewall-user-script not triggering on network change > that I want to report and get an understanding on how it will be > addressed. This one?

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Dubois
On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:04:52 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 10:32:16 UTC, awokd wrote: > > On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:18 pm, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > > On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:01 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > > > > >> If someone can figure

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Dubois
On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 10:32:16 UTC, awokd wrote: > On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:18 pm, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:01 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > > >> If someone can figure out how to port-forward in 4.0, please do update > >> the docs. I never

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Dubois
On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:26:36 UTC, Tom Zander wrote: > On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:55:34 CET Unman wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:14:57PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users > wrote: > > > * Having nothing but python APIs for your operating system is something > > > that makes no

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 11:32:07 CET 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > I'm not getting past the first step of: > > Verify you are cutting through the sys-net VM firewall by looking at its > counters (column 2) Yes, that sounds familiar. The problem isn't limited to sys-net either, using

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-06 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:18 pm, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:01 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: >> If someone can figure out how to port-forward in 4.0, please do update >> the docs. I never managed to get that working. I see what you mean. If I follow

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, February 5, 2018 6:01 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > On Monday, 5 February 2018 04:34:35 CET Tim W wrote: > >> People complain about doc being outdated..then fix them. >> > > If someone can figure out how to port-forward in 4.0, please do update > the docs. I never managed

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Mon, February 5, 2018 5:57 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > On Monday, 5 February 2018 08:00:35 CET 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > Release candidates are, like the word describes, not made unless the > developers are thinking that its ready to release but needs more > real-world

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Monday, 5 February 2018 04:34:35 CET Tim W wrote: > People complain about doc being outdated..then fix them. If someone can figure out how to port-forward in 4.0, please do update the docs. I never managed to get that working. The firewall page can also be a bit more detailed as-is, it

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Monday, 5 February 2018 08:00:35 CET 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > Why are you complaining about bugs when running a ".0rc" version? They're > to be expected; if not the point of release candidates. Actually... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:00:55 CET 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > Working on it (where other contributors haven't already)! Am about halfway > through now. Sweet! -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-05 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Monday, 5 February 2018 02:33:02 CET Unman wrote: > You are, of > course, free to rewrite Qubes and its components in a language you're > comfortable with. Don't be so dramatic, I m not suggesting any such thing. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog:

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Why are you complaining about bugs when running a ".0rc" version? They're to be expected; if not the point of release candidates. If you want stable, run R3.2. I'm still using that as my daily driver, but from what I see of R4.0rc4 it's to the point where I'm comfortable switching as soon as I

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread Unman
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 01:26:28AM +0100, Tom Zander wrote: > On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:55:34 CET Unman wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:14:57PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users > wrote: > > > * Having nothing but python APIs for your operating system is something > > > that makes no

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:55:34 CET Unman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:14:57PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > > * Having nothing but python APIs for your operating system is something > > that makes no sense. Python was never meant for servers, or even big > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread Unman
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:14:57PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > * Having nothing but python APIs for your operating system is something that > makes no sense. Python was never meant for servers, or even big > applications. Finding a full-stack python developer is more rare than

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread Yuraeitha
@Tom Zander On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 8:15:05 PM UTC+1, Tom Zander wrote: > On Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:10:44 CET Yuraeitha wrote: > > Also it's been explicitly said that no Qubes 4 existing features will be > > added to the new-old Qube Manager. Which might also hint towards no > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Sun, February 4, 2018 7:14 pm, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users wrote: > The biggest issue i ran into is that Qubes4 is just too immature to > actually use for more than browsing and email. It was too painful for my > desktop full-time work machine. I tried for 2 months, my significant other >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Manager / Qubes 4.0 R3 ?

2018-02-04 Thread 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users
On Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:10:44 CET Yuraeitha wrote: > Also it's been explicitly said that no Qubes 4 existing features will be > added to the new-old Qube Manager. Which might also hint towards no > changes coming to Qube Manager. If anything, it has to be re-made almost > entirely to work