Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-16 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 11:02:13 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 2:07:44 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:48:29 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:38:23 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > > On

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-14 Thread Sean Dilda
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:53 AM Sean Dilda wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:23 AM ora...@riseup.net > wrote: > > >> for me fresh install on x230 using legacy boot and there is no grub, so >> how make the iommu=no-igfx edit? >> > > I had to make the

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-14 Thread Sean Dilda
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:23 AM ora...@riseup.net wrote: > for me fresh install on x230 using legacy boot and there is no grub, so > how make the iommu=no-igfx edit? > I had to make the same edit.. however, I did see the grub screen for a few seconds until it started the

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-11 Thread 'PhR' via qubes-users
Hello, On 08/11/17 21:54, Foppe de Haan wrote: Question: should windows-7 HVMs imported from R3.2 Just Work™ in R4? additional questions: 1) Can I install Windows at all, since it seems that there are no qubes-windows-tools available . 2) What is the strategy with Windows Support in Qubes

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-11 Thread Foppe de Haan
Question: should windows-7 HVMs imported from R3.2 Just Work™ in R4? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-11 Thread blacklight
On Friday, 11 August 2017 17:02:13 UTC+2, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 2:07:44 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:48:29 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:38:23 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > > On

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-11 Thread yuraeitha
On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 2:07:44 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:48:29 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:38:23 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-11 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:48:29 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:38:23 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:15:43 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-08 Thread Franz
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki < marma...@invisiblethingslab.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 12:42:01PM -0700, mikihonz...@gmail.com wrote: > > Some bugs, one pretty deal breaking: > > Thanks for the report. >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-06 Thread 'PhR' via qubes-users
On 08/06/17 09:16, Foppe de Haan wrote: Notifications - I haven't seen any notifications at all, like starting/stopping of VMs or when a new USB-device has been attached. Would like to see the notification from Qubes 3.2 in Qubes 4 Agreed.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-06 Thread Foppe de Haan
On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 2:11:41 AM UTC+2, PR wrote: > Hello, hi. :) > Notifications - I haven't seen any notifications at all, like > starting/stopping of VMs or when a new USB-device has been > attached. Would like to see the notification from Qubes 3.2 in >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread 'PhR' via qubes-users
Hello, after having problems to install Qubes on my X200 I have installed 4rc1 on my other laptop (Lenovo W540). Installation was sucessfull and the only tweak I needed was to remove iommu=no-igfx from grub boot. I have uses Qubes 4rc1 now for ~2,5 hours, my feedback so far: positive: *

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:38:23 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:15:43 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:15:43 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:56:25 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:15:43 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:56:25 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:56:25 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:56:25 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > I'll be disappointed but I'm not going to be mad at them for trying to > > > get

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
ever hear of the saying cut your nose to spite your face? Linux communities are the epitome of that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
The reason why redhat, ubuntu, and gentoo jumped on the secure boot train, not just for the security benefits, but because they know if they didn't linux would indeed be left out in the cold with nothing to live on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:59:19 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:50:18 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-4, PR wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:50:18 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-4, PR wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we (different user > > types/groups) would like to see, instead of having some kind of 'flame

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > I'll be disappointed but I'm not going to be mad at them for trying to get > > paid, they deserve it. > > > > But I also wouldn't mind if they turned

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-4, PR wrote: > Hello, > > > I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we (different user > types/groups) would like to see, instead of having some kind of 'flame war' > GUI vs. Terminal. > > > The good thing was always that you can

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:31:27 PM UTC, PR wrote: > Hello, > > > I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we (different user > types/groups) would like to see, instead of having some kind of 'flame war' > GUI vs. Terminal. > > > The good thing was always that you can built

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:26:05 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > I'll be disappointed but I'm not going to be mad at them for trying to get > paid, they deserve it. > > But I also wouldn't mind if they turned me into a money asset like windows so > they can keep designing it for home

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread 'P R' via qubes-users
Hello, I think it makes sense to concentrate more on what we (different user types/groups) would like to see, instead of having some kind of 'flame war' GUI vs. Terminal. The good thing was always that you can built very complicated workflows using the terminal/bash scrips make life easier and

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
I'll be disappointed but I'm not going to be mad at them for trying to get paid, they deserve it. But I also wouldn't mind if they turned me into a money asset like windows so they can keep designing it for home users...lol I look at things differently. You are referring to linux

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:02:53 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 10:48:22 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:34:53 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > > > > On Wed,

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
I remember when the tor dev Isis on irc, when I asked if anyone used Qubes, told me she was going to try it out but thought it was too hard to use. She started asking me how easy it was to install and use. I was in total shock! This someone who is a genius compared to me and she thought

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 10:48:22 AM UTC-4, yura...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:34:53 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread yuraeitha
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:34:53 PM UTC, cooloutac wrote: > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > > > > > On

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 9:25:03 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Unman wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 12:43:31AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 08/02/2017 03:04 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > > oh ok I see,  so a taskbar widget

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-05 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 08/02/2017 03:04 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > > oh ok I see,  so a taskbar widget

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-04 Thread yuraeitha
A worry I've been thinking about regarding the backup feature missing, is that it seems like it's intended to be used through the AdminVM over a network. In other words, this seems more like a move towards business users, rather than the regular every day user that might prefer an external USB

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-04 Thread Franz
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Unman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 12:43:31AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star > wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > > > On

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-02 Thread Franz
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 08/02/2017 03:04 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > > oh ok I see, so a taskbar widget or something to replace the > > manager. I thought they lost their minds for a

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-02 Thread Eva Star
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/02/2017 03:04 AM, cooloutac wrote: > oh ok I see, so a taskbar widget or something to replace the > manager. I thought they lost their minds for a second. My > immediate thought was what about attaching drives, and seeing if > updates

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 7:53:45 PM UTC-4, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:46 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > am I reading this right? There is no qubes-manager in 4.0? Does that mean > > everything must be done in a terminal? Tell me I read that wrong

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:46 PM, cooloutac wrote: > am I reading this right? There is no qubes-manager in 4.0? Does that mean > everything must be done in a terminal? Tell me I read that wrong lol. tl;dr - https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2132 -- You

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 12:42:01PM -0700, mikihonz...@gmail.com wrote: > Some bugs, one pretty deal breaking: Thanks for the report. > If I remove an application from the appmenu, I am unable to set it again. > More specifically I can set it in

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:10:08PM -0700, miki wrote: > > Hi, > HVM Standalone option is greyed out. Also the --cdrom option no longer exists > with the qvm-start command. Does anyone know if this is related to some > Stubdom changes/problems and

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread tiopaul1958 via qubes-users
Why not include the Qubes Manager? It's a good simple tool, and those who wish to use the CLI instead would still be free to do so. Thanks for all the work on 4.0 BTW. And 3.2. And 3.1 ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-08-01 Thread f . tuttmann
Am Montag, 31. Juli 2017 22:12:06 UTC+2 schrieb PR: > Hello, > > > > Am 31.07.2017 9:42 nachm. schrieb : > > > I was able to restore all of my VMs via CLI but after restoring I couldn't > start any VM. > > Will downgrade to 3.2 and will wait for final release of 4.0 and

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-07-31 Thread 'P R' via qubes-users
Hello, Am 31.07.2017 9:42 nachm. schrieb : I was able to restore all of my VMs via CLI but after restoring I couldn't start any VM. Will downgrade to 3.2 and will wait for final release of 4.0 and I hope that this will then be fixed. Of course you can go straight back to

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-07-31 Thread f . tuttmann
Am Montag, 31. Juli 2017 20:37:14 UTC+2 schrieb PR: > Hello, > > > > Am 31.07.2017 8:09 nachm. schrieb : > > I don't like that Qubes Manager was removed. > > > > I can understand that this might feel strange, but after getting used to it > you can do anything (even

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 first release candidate (rc1) has been released!

2017-07-31 Thread 'P R' via qubes-users
Hello, Am 31.07.2017 8:09 nachm. schrieb : I don't like that Qubes Manager was removed. I can understand that this might feel strange, but after getting used to it you can do anything (even more than with Qubes Manager) from the command line/CLI. As far as I have