Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-15 Thread Sergio Matta

> I know PV is not recommended, but thought it was still supported under
> R4.0 and Xen? If so, networking should work too, but you're right- it
> won't be a priority.

PV is still supported by Xen. It will works fine after he create the routes. I 
agree there is not enough people using PV to be prioritized.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-15 Thread awokd
On Wed, May 16, 2018 3:15 am, Sergio Matta wrote:
> Em terça-feira, 15 de maio de 2018 23:39:20 UTC-3, awokd  escreveu:

>>
>> Sergio, are you saying if you change sys-net and sys-firewall to PV
>> mode,
>> it breaks the network configuration so you have to set up manually? That
>> doesn't sound intentional, I wonder if there's a bug (but R4.0 really
>> requires the ability to run HVM/PVH mode to be safest).
>
> Yes. I don't think it as a bug. Qubes V4 demands iommu. Without it you can
> use only PV or HVM. So PV was abandoned, PVH is programmed.
> The little I read about Xen says Xen creates virtual connections, when
> needed. With "ifconfig -a" he can see the correct vif and create the
> route. Some programming can be done, but I think is better change the
> motherboard. :-)

I know PV is not recommended, but thought it was still supported under
R4.0 and Xen? If so, networking should work too, but you're right- it
won't be a priority.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-15 Thread Sergio Matta
Em terça-feira, 15 de maio de 2018 23:39:20 UTC-3, awokd  escreveu:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 7:43 pm, Sergio Matta wrote:
> > Em segunda-feira, 14 de maio de 2018 13:55:51 UTC-3, niepo...@gmail.com
> > escreveu:
> 
> >> appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode
> >> netVM and firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started).
> >>
> >> Looks like i will back to R3.2 as R4.0 is useless for me with no
> >> internet in appVM's.
> >
> > sorry about write qvm-ls, is qvm-prefs, I was sleeping. Now you need to:
> > 1-keep them PV;
> > 2-chmod +x /rw/config/rc.local in sys-firewall and sys-net;
> > 3-In sys-net /rw/config/rc.local insert:
> > ip link set vif3.0 up
> > ip addr add [sys-net ip, something like 10.137.0.5]/255.255.255.255 dev
> > vif3.0
> > ip route add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255
> > dev vif3.0
> > 4-In sys-firewall /rw/config/rc.local insert:
> > ip link set vif4.0 up
> > ip addr add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255
> > dev vif4.0
> > ip route add [vm to route ip, something like 10.137.0.9]/255.255.255.255
> > dev vif4.0
> > you should repeat the item 4 increasing the vif and changing the ip to
> > support other vms.
> > It will run, not easy. You may consider buy a iommu motherboard.
> 
> Sergio, are you saying if you change sys-net and sys-firewall to PV mode,
> it breaks the network configuration so you have to set up manually? That
> doesn't sound intentional, I wonder if there's a bug (but R4.0 really
> requires the ability to run HVM/PVH mode to be safest).

Yes. I don't think it as a bug. Qubes V4 demands iommu. Without it you can use 
only PV or HVM. So PV was abandoned, PVH is programmed.
The little I read about Xen says Xen creates virtual connections, when needed. 
With "ifconfig -a" he can see the correct vif and create the route. Some 
programming can be done, but I think is better change the motherboard. :-)

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-15 Thread awokd
On Mon, May 14, 2018 7:43 pm, Sergio Matta wrote:
> Em segunda-feira, 14 de maio de 2018 13:55:51 UTC-3, niepo...@gmail.com
> escreveu:

>> appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode
>> netVM and firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started).
>>
>> Looks like i will back to R3.2 as R4.0 is useless for me with no
>> internet in appVM's.
>
> sorry about write qvm-ls, is qvm-prefs, I was sleeping. Now you need to:
> 1-keep them PV;
> 2-chmod +x /rw/config/rc.local in sys-firewall and sys-net;
> 3-In sys-net /rw/config/rc.local insert:
> ip link set vif3.0 up
> ip addr add [sys-net ip, something like 10.137.0.5]/255.255.255.255 dev
> vif3.0
> ip route add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255
> dev vif3.0
> 4-In sys-firewall /rw/config/rc.local insert:
> ip link set vif4.0 up
> ip addr add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255
> dev vif4.0
> ip route add [vm to route ip, something like 10.137.0.9]/255.255.255.255
> dev vif4.0
> you should repeat the item 4 increasing the vif and changing the ip to
> support other vms.
> It will run, not easy. You may consider buy a iommu motherboard.

Sergio, are you saying if you change sys-net and sys-firewall to PV mode,
it breaks the network configuration so you have to set up manually? That
doesn't sound intentional, I wonder if there's a bug (but R4.0 really
requires the ability to run HVM/PVH mode to be safest).

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-14 Thread Qubes Guy
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:55:51 PM UTC-4, niepo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 7:08 pm,  wrote:
> > > netVM has ok ping to google.com
> > > firewallVM has no pings
> > > appVM has also no pings
> > >
> > > Maybe it's worth to mention: update template VM was done with success
> > > (which is a bit odd as update actually was done with success as firewallVM
> > > has no pings).
> > 
> > Are you using the default templates and AppVMs, or ones you've restored?
> > Try doing a reinstall and testing with the default ones only.
> 
> appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode netVM 
> and firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started).
> 
> Looks like i will back to R3.2 as R4.0 is useless for me with no internet in 
> appVM's.

I don't know if this is helpful, but I get Internet via a USB-to-Ethernet 
adapter. I have that (and all of my other USB devices) connected to a single 
internal USB controller connected to the sys-usb VM. sys-usb is an HVM (with 
network-manager in the Services tab). sys-net is connected to sys-usb, and it's 
a PVH (with meminfo-writer, clocksync and qubes-updates-proxy in its Services 
tab). sys-firewall is connected to sys-net, and it's also a PVH (with no 
services in the Services tab). Of course, sys-usb was flagged as providing 
networks services when it was created. Hope that helps...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-14 Thread Sergio Matta
Em segunda-feira, 14 de maio de 2018 13:55:51 UTC-3, niepo...@gmail.com  
escreveu:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 7:08 pm,  wrote:
> > > netVM has ok ping to google.com
> > > firewallVM has no pings
> > > appVM has also no pings
> > >
> > > Maybe it's worth to mention: update template VM was done with success
> > > (which is a bit odd as update actually was done with success as firewallVM
> > > has no pings).
> > 
> > Are you using the default templates and AppVMs, or ones you've restored?
> > Try doing a reinstall and testing with the default ones only.
> 
> appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode netVM 
> and firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started).
> 
> Looks like i will back to R3.2 as R4.0 is useless for me with no internet in 
> appVM's.

sorry about write qvm-ls, is qvm-prefs, I was sleeping. Now you need to:
1-keep them PV;
2-chmod +x /rw/config/rc.local in sys-firewall and sys-net;
3-In sys-net /rw/config/rc.local insert:
ip link set vif3.0 up
ip addr add [sys-net ip, something like 10.137.0.5]/255.255.255.255 dev vif3.0
ip route add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255 dev 
vif3.0
4-In sys-firewall /rw/config/rc.local insert:
ip link set vif4.0 up
ip addr add [sys-firewall ip, something like 10.137.0.6]/255.255.255.255 dev 
vif4.0
ip route add [vm to route ip, something like 10.137.0.9]/255.255.255.255 dev 
vif4.0
you should repeat the item 4 increasing the vif and changing the ip to support 
other vms.
It will run, not easy. You may consider buy a iommu motherboard.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-14 Thread niepowiem48
On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 7:08 pm,  wrote:
> > netVM has ok ping to google.com
> > firewallVM has no pings
> > appVM has also no pings
> >
> > Maybe it's worth to mention: update template VM was done with success
> > (which is a bit odd as update actually was done with success as firewallVM
> > has no pings).
> 
> Are you using the default templates and AppVMs, or ones you've restored?
> Try doing a reinstall and testing with the default ones only.

appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode netVM and 
firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started).

Looks like i will back to R3.2 as R4.0 is useless for me with no internet in 
appVM's.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-14 Thread niepowiem48
On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 7:08 pm, wrote:
> > netVM has ok ping to google.com
> > firewallVM has no pings
> > appVM has also no pings
> >
> > Maybe it's worth to mention: update template VM was done with success
> > (which is a bit odd as update actually was done with success as firewallVM
> > has no pings).
> 
> Are you using the default templates and AppVMs, or ones you've restored?
> Try doing a reinstall and testing with the default ones only.

appVM's are not restored. All is default except I changed to pv mode netVM and 
firewallVM (in hvm and pvh do not started). 

Looks like i will back to R3.2 and R4.0 is useless for me with no internet in 
appVM's.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes R4.0 - no internet working in appVM

2018-05-13 Thread awokd
On Sat, May 12, 2018 7:08 pm, niepowie...@gmail.com wrote:
> netVM has ok ping to google.com
> firewallVM has no pings
> appVM has also no pings
>
> Maybe it's worth to mention: update template VM was done with success
> (which is a bit odd as update actually was done with success as firewallVM
> has no pings).

Are you using the default templates and AppVMs, or ones you've restored?
Try doing a reinstall and testing with the default ones only.

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