Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?

2022-03-09 Thread Sven Semmler

On 3/9/22 20:46, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes.


e.g. when processing HCL reports ;-)

/Sven

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?

2022-03-09 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 03:46:53AM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks
> > > digital signatures.  Should it be set to the empty string, or do its
> > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks?
> > 
> > As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be
> > entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups
> > will not allow it.
> 
> And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML
> info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now
> and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to
> unsubscribe...
> Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes.
> Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was
> compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what
> other (non-self-hosted) providers do.

Why did Google make this change?  Has anyone complained to them about
it?

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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
Invisible Things Lab
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?

2022-03-09 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks
> > digital signatures.  Should it be set to the empty string, or do its
> > benefits outweigh the drawbacks?
> 
> As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be
> entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups
> will not allow it.

And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML
info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now
and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to
unsubscribe...
Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes.
Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was
compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what
other (non-self-hosted) providers do.

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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
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