Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:34:22 PM UTC-4, Francesco Rmp wrote: > Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 17:00:30 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-4, Francesco Rmp wrote: > > > Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 00:32:51 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > > > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at > > > > > > this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me > > > > > > think 1060 not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary > > > > > > nvidia driver from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are > > > > > > considered insecure. Not sure it will even work but maybe worth a > > > > > > shot. > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > > > > > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds > > > > > nvidia" > > > > > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > > > > > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > > > > > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 > > > > > > > > lmao just watched it. Personally I never had any problems with nvidia > > > > on linux, with either open source or prop drivers. I've always > > > > prefered it over ati. But then again I would never buy bleeding edge > > > > hardware to run linux. > > > > > > Indeedbleeding edge VGAs are not really the best idea for a linux OS in > > > general, but with other "mainstream" distributions, i don't have these > > > problems, mainly because they are more frequently updated then qubes. > > > > > > I'm not blaming qubes for being conservative, don't misunderstand me, a > > > system focusing primarly on security for the end user needs to be > > > throughly tested and you can't simply pick up packages and import them > > > into the repo without previously making sure that they don't breake the > > > security model in any possible way.. also XEN is a b*** when it comes to > > > hardware compatibility.. so.. yeah i just hope i'll find a way to solve > > > my problem, as said, i'm not looking for high end 3d graphics in qubes at > > > all, but at least an even non accelerated decent resolution.. I'd love to > > > gain that :) > > > > you would have same issue on mainstream linux apparently man. Nouveau is > > about the kernel version you are using. Apparently even 4.9 might still > > not work correctly for you even on a baremetal fedora system with that > > card, as seen by the amount of people complaining on fedora forum threads. > > Most people buy cards like that for gpu intensive processing like graphics > > design and gaming and use the nvidia proprietary drivers. There seems to > > be no choice, I guess if you want to use open source drivers, your nvidia > > card has to be at least over two years old to ensure compatibility. > > > It'd be fine to install the nvidia proprietary drivers in dom0, but looking > at the documentation on the qubes project site, the guidelines are a bit > outdated and i cant seem to be able to follow the procedure, do you know any > other more updated tutorial that would work on an updated qubes installation? > > what version of fedora is it based on, now? I believe fedora 23. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/57460da7-5e98-46c2-8b08-4045302b6f54%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 17:00:30 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-4, Francesco Rmp wrote: > > Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 00:32:51 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at > > > > > this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me > > > > > think 1060 not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > > > > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia > > > > > driver from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered > > > > > insecure. Not sure it will even work but maybe worth a shot. > > > > > > > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > > > > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" > > > > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > > > > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > > > > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 > > > > > > lmao just watched it. Personally I never had any problems with nvidia on > > > linux, with either open source or prop drivers. I've always prefered it > > > over ati. But then again I would never buy bleeding edge hardware to > > > run linux. > > > > Indeedbleeding edge VGAs are not really the best idea for a linux OS in > > general, but with other "mainstream" distributions, i don't have these > > problems, mainly because they are more frequently updated then qubes. > > > > I'm not blaming qubes for being conservative, don't misunderstand me, a > > system focusing primarly on security for the end user needs to be throughly > > tested and you can't simply pick up packages and import them into the repo > > without previously making sure that they don't breake the security model in > > any possible way.. also XEN is a b*** when it comes to hardware > > compatibility.. so.. yeah i just hope i'll find a way to solve my problem, > > as said, i'm not looking for high end 3d graphics in qubes at all, but at > > least an even non accelerated decent resolution.. I'd love to gain that :) > > you would have same issue on mainstream linux apparently man. Nouveau is > about the kernel version you are using. Apparently even 4.9 might still not > work correctly for you even on a baremetal fedora system with that card, as > seen by the amount of people complaining on fedora forum threads. Most > people buy cards like that for gpu intensive processing like graphics design > and gaming and use the nvidia proprietary drivers. There seems to be no > choice, I guess if you want to use open source drivers, your nvidia card > has to be at least over two years old to ensure compatibility. It'd be fine to install the nvidia proprietary drivers in dom0, but looking at the documentation on the qubes project site, the guidelines are a bit outdated and i cant seem to be able to follow the procedure, do you know any other more updated tutorial that would work on an updated qubes installation? what version of fedora is it based on, now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/88f12133-c612-4dee-a745-d4635af4e4c0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 7:41:46 PM UTC-4, Francesco Rmp wrote: > Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 00:32:51 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at this > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me think > > > > 1060 not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia > > > > driver from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered > > > > insecure. Not sure it will even work but maybe worth a shot. > > > > > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > > > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" > > > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > > > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > > > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 > > > > lmao just watched it. Personally I never had any problems with nvidia on > > linux, with either open source or prop drivers. I've always prefered it > > over ati. But then again I would never buy bleeding edge hardware to run > > linux. > > Indeedbleeding edge VGAs are not really the best idea for a linux OS in > general, but with other "mainstream" distributions, i don't have these > problems, mainly because they are more frequently updated then qubes. > > I'm not blaming qubes for being conservative, don't misunderstand me, a > system focusing primarly on security for the end user needs to be throughly > tested and you can't simply pick up packages and import them into the repo > without previously making sure that they don't breake the security model in > any possible way.. also XEN is a b*** when it comes to hardware > compatibility.. so.. yeah i just hope i'll find a way to solve my problem, as > said, i'm not looking for high end 3d graphics in qubes at all, but at least > an even non accelerated decent resolution.. I'd love to gain that :) you would have same issue on mainstream linux apparently man. Nouveau is about the kernel version you are using. Apparently even 4.9 might still not work correctly for you even on a baremetal fedora system with that card, as seen by the amount of people complaining on fedora forum threads. Most people buy cards like that for gpu intensive processing like graphics design and gaming and use the nvidia proprietary drivers. There seems to be no choice, I guess if you want to use open source drivers, your nvidia card has to be at least over two years old to ensure compatibility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1c4274cc-4207-4b7f-be2f-d3f541424498%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
Il giorno martedì 25 aprile 2017 00:32:51 UTC+2, cooloutac ha scritto: > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote: > > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at this > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me think 1060 > > > not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia > > > driver from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered insecure. > > > Not sure it will even work but maybe worth a shot. > > > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" > > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > > > -- > > > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 > > lmao just watched it. Personally I never had any problems with nvidia on > linux, with either open source or prop drivers. I've always prefered it over > ati. But then again I would never buy bleeding edge hardware to run linux. Indeedbleeding edge VGAs are not really the best idea for a linux OS in general, but with other "mainstream" distributions, i don't have these problems, mainly because they are more frequently updated then qubes. I'm not blaming qubes for being conservative, don't misunderstand me, a system focusing primarly on security for the end user needs to be throughly tested and you can't simply pick up packages and import them into the repo without previously making sure that they don't breake the security model in any possible way.. also XEN is a b*** when it comes to hardware compatibility.. so.. yeah i just hope i'll find a way to solve my problem, as said, i'm not looking for high end 3d graphics in qubes at all, but at least an even non accelerated decent resolution.. I'd love to gain that :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/55164a11-5669-49c5-b40d-3a1894d89170%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:45:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at this > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me think 1060 > > not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia driver > > from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered insecure. Not sure > > it will even work but maybe worth a shot. > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > -- > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 lmao just watched it. Personally I never had any problems with nvidia on linux, with either open source or prop drivers. I've always prefered it over ati. But then again I would never buy bleeding edge hardware to run linux. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1d082bd7-8009-43f6-a5fc-a0becbd55262%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 21:45:52 UTC+2, Chris Laprise ha scritto: > On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at this > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me think 1060 > > not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. > > > > another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia driver > > from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered insecure. Not sure > > it will even work but maybe worth a shot. > > Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being > FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" > to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) > > -- > > Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 let's say that, for now i'd be happy enaugh if i could increase the screen resolution to my native monitor one, but i don't know if i have to add something in the xorg configuration, since even trying to force the resolution from there doesn't seem to work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e3fb91dc-42fe-49ae-a296-3324697aee8c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: a cumulative post about some issues i'm having with my qubes installation (looking forward for help)
On 04/24/2017 12:20 PM, cooloutac wrote: linux always lags a few years behind hardware support. looking at this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411830 makes me think 1060 not gonna work with nouveau on any kernel right now. another solution would be to try and install the proprietary nvidia driver from rpm fusion in dom0 but prop drivers are considered insecure. Not sure it will even work but maybe worth a shot. Somewhere in this thread belongs a diatribe against Nvidia being FOSS-hostile. But I'll let you all search Youtube for "Torvalds nvidia" to see -- graphically -- what I mean. ;) -- Chris Laprise, tas...@openmailbox.org https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/43a50679-39a8-ba01-3c00-919981a7ad1c%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
