Re: [qubes-users] Screenreader - accessibility
On 12/13/20 5:17 PM, 'Reece O'Bryan' via qubes-users wrote: Hello, I am wondering if anyone has any ideas as to how I could run a screen reader in Qubes. I use Orca with Debian-based systems, would it be possible to do the same thing? I do realize that blind people that want privacy or an extremely small minority. However, I think that people that are blind or that have became blind such as myself deserve the same right to privacy. :) Thank you all very much in advance, -Reece Hi Reece, We are interested in implementing screen-reading support and have an open issue about it here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5907 as Sven mentions there are some technical/security aspects that make it difficult to implement right now, though with a dedicated GUI VM which is on the Qubes roadmap this will be made easier. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6afd5e2e-4953-678a-259c-636988b1fe52%40qubes-os.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Screenreader - accessibility
On 12/13/20 4:17 PM, 'Reece O'Bryan' via qubes-users wrote: I am wondering if anyone has any ideas as to how I could run a screen reader in Qubes. I use Orca with Debian-based systems, would it be possible to do the same thing? I am afraid that's going to be a though one. The way I understand how screen readers work is that they interrogate the UI and then provide some form of output be it audio or haptic. In Qubes a lot of energy went into preventing exactly this scenario. My high level understanding is that each VM renders their windows onto a virtual screen. The areas of these windows are then sent securely as a bitmap to dom0 where those bitmaps then get rendered onto the screen. The entire point being that no VM can see or interrogate any of the output of the other VMs and dom0 cannot be compromised because it is only dealing with bitmaps. There might be a way to get Orca or similar tools to work on a per VM basis, which might be OK with audio output -- I don't know. But things like system wide focus management would require a Qubes specific screen reader implementation in dom0 with stubs in each VM. With the upcoming version of Qubes GUI management will be removed from dom0 and instead happen in a dedicated GUI VM, which is even more secure and is meant to also make it easier to support different environments like GNOME, KDE etc. My hope would be that in this new architecture there would be an easier way to support this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c27a79b5-f261-c414-913c-72b01988bc3d%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
