Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
On 3/30/22 8:05 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Does using the modesetting driver instead of the intel driver help? If not, please report this as an i915 kernel driver bug. it does not. The bug report is open & unresolved for > 1year https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/6397 Thank you, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bf3dd1c2-382e-dbe8-b4fb-3c7e6aebb4be%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 09:20:31AM +0100, Mike Keehan wrote: > On 3/30/22 08:46, haaber wrote: > > On 3/29/22 22:55, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > > haaber: > > > > I need help to modify the Q4.1 installer ISO file. I did learn how to > > > > pack & unpack isos. That is fine. The idea is a new install on a larger > > > > SSD of Q4.1 instead of risky "upgarde" tentatives that finish less > > > > clean. (benefit: if it fails I can go back to running Q4.0) > > > > > > > > 1) I naïvely placed a new kernel in /extrakernels but that does not seem > > > > to impress the boot-loader. I find no way to select which kernel > > > > to boot. > > > > > > Not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish here. A Qubes 4.1 > > > install ISO with a newer kernel? Can't you install 4.1 with a recent > > > prebuilt ISO and update the kernel after? If it's due to hardware > > > incompatibilities, I've seen some install and update on one system, then > > > move the hard drive to the one with newer hardware. > > > > Thanks for your reply! Badly enough, I rather need a "kernel downgrade": > > any xen kernel 5.x will freeze my Q4.0 system between seconds and some > > minutes (a curse on Intel and Dell at this point for selling shit at > > high prices). So my qubes runs for one year now in a "disaster mode" > > with a 4.19 kernel for xen, and normal 5.x kernels in guest VM's (mainly > > debian). The same happens when I try a fresh install with Q4.1: install > > attempts with the std ISO fail 100% by system freeze before finishing > > installand leave an unbootable SSD behind. > > > Hi Haaber, > > I used to have similar freezing problems with 4.0 on my Dell laptop. > I found that it was due to an upgrade to the intel-i915 driver in X. > Replacing the new version with an older version cured it for me. > > However, I've had no trouble with Qubes 4.1. > > A search for "linux xorg driver for i915" gives some idea of the > problems, but it is all a bit confusing. > > Mike Does using the modesetting driver instead of the intel driver help? If not, please report this as an i915 kernel driver bug. - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmJEm/wACgkQsoi1X/+c IsG+Uw/+MqgJ7SfFVQDF8/TDQsdt/FJgP8Aiugoc76neJicqKrK+R94NtzkuhKDb k+dTwnrIDKWqB38zLsfsglgmEt2/Skita5nXvLysqQvPVvur3wIyCTnaU3cHAFIB MgyHT01+AvVJec89LeKXjmk4kX83Iux9sQ+TniKuQSuFHd3oKQJFugtxeiLj+pbu 88j0Jg2IEP8ICGnwx/EsZbCbKgAkQmYq31Pavu4zlUZYSao1waqK3NM+pKHGuxAP to5Hj4nkbEEiOVNDdnPmvsCw32RJmboXU68iqo0bE5Au/9q70FiuNV9S4hS+/5QJ z1wVwLX0iyoqNDNowBLxytC9IpZ3tQyyIIL2MQQvXi8fTmrNMbMs/2nXzzDpXGjC RsDPfKyCgGEKnQW/RRuMsSVeIL77AeT0SwHG8c6evvf72WSaXAOf23keMewaLZzf uGgH43K7FcandBySoWaQTRpvxiTFtpID4YS/p8kVitN13ZPN7QasocYXiPau5v6x hu/2UEKkDu2249fJnIsgY9RexQRbyerukJ4fvSjNOz3aIp7kQnH9lNjl9NJUW3c+ vVo3aNsCiZdAw1jNu1XY5Hh1q69UneR1JOh37gACy/l6KHwvQebBu9HcsmEwqmXD bxzTxAXbPIjHc/rDRR4mgI3BDcpV61JE2tTgOH9HBz4jv+SP8LE= =Ii/V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YkSb%2B2fWM21xok9L%40itl-email.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
On 3/30/22 14:48, haaber wrote: Hi Haaber, I used to have similar freezing problems with 4.0 on my Dell laptop. I found that it was due to an upgrade to the intel-i915 driver in X. Replacing the new version with an older version cured it for me. However, I've had no trouble with Qubes 4.1. A search for "linux xorg driver for i915" gives some idea of the problems, but it is all a bit confusing. ah. I extracted xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-26.20160929.fc25.x86_64.rpm (year=2016) xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-32.20171025.fc25.x86_64.rpm (year=2017) from old qubes ISO's. How did you install / exchange them in the running qubes system? alternatively, I could also place one of these inside the qubes-4.1 ISO, where we find actually /Packages/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-49.20210126.fc32.x86_64.rpm Replacing this file is certainly more easy than changing the kernel of the ISO itself :) Bernhard I think (my old memory is not what it was!!) I used dnf to uninstall the version in fedora, then used dnf with the rpm file in the current directory to install the older version. And then you have to make dnf ignore updates to that package. You will have to do a search for that option to dnf (or possibly, an entry in a file somewhere), as I can't remember that bit, sorry. Mike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f707f57e-261b-b571-0bfa-7225d1bc76be%40keehan.net.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
Hi Haaber, I used to have similar freezing problems with 4.0 on my Dell laptop. I found that it was due to an upgrade to the intel-i915 driver in X. Replacing the new version with an older version cured it for me. However, I've had no trouble with Qubes 4.1. A search for "linux xorg driver for i915" gives some idea of the problems, but it is all a bit confusing. ah. I extracted xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-26.20160929.fc25.x86_64.rpm (year=2016) xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-32.20171025.fc25.x86_64.rpm (year=2017) from old qubes ISO's. How did you install / exchange them in the running qubes system? alternatively, I could also place one of these inside the qubes-4.1 ISO, where we find actually /Packages/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-49.20210126.fc32.x86_64.rpm Replacing this file is certainly more easy than changing the kernel of the ISO itself :) Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/454b0e7a-9d65-8b8b-1414-8a5b4cb5a29a%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
On 3/30/22 08:46, haaber wrote: On 3/29/22 22:55, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: haaber: I need help to modify the Q4.1 installer ISO file. I did learn how to pack & unpack isos. That is fine. The idea is a new install on a larger SSD of Q4.1 instead of risky "upgarde" tentatives that finish less clean. (benefit: if it fails I can go back to running Q4.0) 1) I naïvely placed a new kernel in /extrakernels but that does not seem to impress the boot-loader. I find no way to select which kernel to boot. Not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish here. A Qubes 4.1 install ISO with a newer kernel? Can't you install 4.1 with a recent prebuilt ISO and update the kernel after? If it's due to hardware incompatibilities, I've seen some install and update on one system, then move the hard drive to the one with newer hardware. Thanks for your reply! Badly enough, I rather need a "kernel downgrade": any xen kernel 5.x will freeze my Q4.0 system between seconds and some minutes (a curse on Intel and Dell at this point for selling shit at high prices). So my qubes runs for one year now in a "disaster mode" with a 4.19 kernel for xen, and normal 5.x kernels in guest VM's (mainly debian). The same happens when I try a fresh install with Q4.1: install attempts with the std ISO fail 100% by system freeze before finishing installand leave an unbootable SSD behind. Hi Haaber, I used to have similar freezing problems with 4.0 on my Dell laptop. I found that it was due to an upgrade to the intel-i915 driver in X. Replacing the new version with an older version cured it for me. However, I've had no trouble with Qubes 4.1. A search for "linux xorg driver for i915" gives some idea of the problems, but it is all a bit confusing. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/159a34f8-912f-2aa3-a95b-94128d5ee099%40keehan.net.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
On 3/29/22 22:55, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: haaber: I need help to modify the Q4.1 installer ISO file. I did learn how to pack & unpack isos. That is fine. The idea is a new install on a larger SSD of Q4.1 instead of risky "upgarde" tentatives that finish less clean. (benefit: if it fails I can go back to running Q4.0) 1) I naïvely placed a new kernel in /extrakernels but that does not seem to impress the boot-loader. I find no way to select which kernel to boot. Not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish here. A Qubes 4.1 install ISO with a newer kernel? Can't you install 4.1 with a recent prebuilt ISO and update the kernel after? If it's due to hardware incompatibilities, I've seen some install and update on one system, then move the hard drive to the one with newer hardware. Thanks for your reply! Badly enough, I rather need a "kernel downgrade": any xen kernel 5.x will freeze my Q4.0 system between seconds and some minutes (a curse on Intel and Dell at this point for selling shit at high prices). So my qubes runs for one year now in a "disaster mode" with a 4.19 kernel for xen, and normal 5.x kernels in guest VM's (mainly debian). The same happens when I try a fresh install with Q4.1: install attempts with the std ISO fail 100% by system freeze before finishing installand leave an unbootable SSD behind. So, since Q4.0 works with this workaround, I'd like to do the same with Q4.1 in an -otherwise- fresh install. It should it possible to replace the kernel (which, after all, are just some executable files) by a working one, right? Of course, the problem is that few people seem to understand how exactly the boot-process works -- that has been outsourced to 'savant scripts' long ago. At least I tried several dozens of webpages on the subject, and I still don't see clear. Precise documentation would be appreciable ... If you're sure you need a custom ISO, I think you may need to build that yourself. The 4.0 documentation is here (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-iso-building/), but 4.1 should be similar. If you go this route, you'd have to figure out how the builder determines which kernel to use and change it before completing the build. I am afraid of that step. That would be the first time in my life that a long build process actually finishes as planned ... best, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dc6a5c56-1aaf-f16d-e109-323ec9abeebc%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] modifying Qubes ISO
haaber: I need help to modify the Q4.1 installer ISO file. I did learn how to pack & unpack isos. That is fine. The idea is a new install on a larger SSD of Q4.1 instead of risky "upgarde" tentatives that finish less clean. (benefit: if it fails I can go back to running Q4.0) 1) I naïvely placed a new kernel in /extrakernels but that does not seem to impress the boot-loader. I find no way to select which kernel to boot. Not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish here. A Qubes 4.1 install ISO with a newer kernel? Can't you install 4.1 with a recent prebuilt ISO and update the kernel after? If it's due to hardware incompatibilities, I've seen some install and update on one system, then move the hard drive to the one with newer hardware. If you're sure you need a custom ISO, I think you may need to build that yourself. The 4.0 documentation is here (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-iso-building/), but 4.1 should be similar. If you go this route, you'd have to figure out how the builder determines which kernel to use and change it before completing the build. -- - don't top post Mailing list etiquette: - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/02dc83af-275e-4ca4-cf7e-9707bd859054%40danwin1210.de.
