[ntp:questions] Details about code structure

2007-11-20 Thread Prathapnirmal
Hi All, Which will be the best document to refer if I need to know information about the organization of code in ntp? I am looking for information like, * a convenience library is created in libopts directory which is further used to link against the final exe * a library is created in libntpd to

Re: [ntp:questions] move_fd() causing bad behavior on AIX5.3

2007-11-20 Thread Harlan Stenn
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: brandon> Oops, 614 is what I meant. I did see that it is closed, but the brandon> comments on it left me with some doubt about whether it had been brandon> verified on AIX5 specifically. VERIFIED means the person who opened the issue

Re: [ntp:questions] move_fd() causing bad behavior on AIX5.3

2007-11-20 Thread brandon . phillips
Harlan Stenn wrote: > Did you mean bug 604 or 614? Regardless, both are marked FIXED, and 604 has > been VERIFIED. Oops, 614 is what I meant. I did see that it is closed, but the comments on it left me with some doubt about whether it had been verified on AIX5 specifically. > We don't do much t

Re: [ntp:questions] Performance of NTP under Windows Vista?

2007-11-20 Thread David J Taylor
Ryan Malayter wrote: > On Nov 19, 12:15 pm, "David J Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote: >> I don't currently understand the behaviour, as it seemed to take >> several days to reduce the offset by a hundred milliseconds >> (averaged), whilst showing a lot of intermediat

Re: [ntp:questions] Performance of NTP under Windows Vista?

2007-11-20 Thread Ryan Malayter
On Nov 19, 12:15 pm, "David J Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote: > I don't currently understand the behaviour, as it seemed to take several > days to reduce the offset by a hundred milliseconds (averaged), whilst > showing a lot of intermediate noise, followed by sudden

Re: [ntp:questions] move_fd() causing bad behavior on AIX5.3

2007-11-20 Thread Harlan Stenn
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: brandon> ntp-4.2.4p4 / AIX 5.3 This was annoying to chase down because I brandon> guess it's also screwing up the fds used to log errors. The brandon> symptom is that ntpd exits silently due to a bind() error, but only brandon> when da

[ntp:questions] move_fd() causing bad behavior on AIX5.3

2007-11-20 Thread brandon . phillips
ntp-4.2.4p4 / AIX 5.3 This was annoying to chase down because I guess it's also screwing up the fds used to log errors. The symptom is that ntpd exits silently due to a bind() error, but only when daemonized. Running under some debugging tools, such as Aprobe, changes the behavior (no failure),

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Hal Murray wrote: > Be sure you get the bare/OEM version, not one with mapping software. With software it's € 280.- BTW, the USD is € 0.68 right now. So EU companies are charging 150 % extra. Regards, Rob -- Avoid alphabet soup. Include the charset in your HTML header; META HTTP-EQ

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Hal Murray
>With software it's € 280.- > >BTW, the USD is € 0.68 right now. So EU companies are charging 150 % extra. I got my GPS 18 LVC from Provantage (www.provantage.com). Their web page says they ship internationally, but I don't know how their total cost compares to any other place. -- These are

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Hal Murray
>Where can get one in Europe? >USD 68.50 is ca € 50.- >Some EU webshops sell it for € 114.-, which is ca USD 156.- Be sure you get the bare/OEM version, not one with mapping software. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

Re: [ntp:questions] Performance of NTP under Windows Vista?

2007-11-20 Thread David J Taylor
Eric wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:26:48 GMT, "David J Taylor" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote for > the entire planet to see: > >> Does anyone have any measurements of NTP running under Windows >> Vista? In particular, the Meinberg foehr 1520 version? > > Hi David - > > I'll let you know when my fi

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Dennis Hilberg, Jr.
Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > John Ioannidis wrote: > >> Out of curiosity: what is wrong with the Garmin GPS 18LVC that someone >> would like to look at an alternative? At < $70, it's practically free. > > Where can get one in Europe? > USD 68.50 is ca € 50.- > Some EU webshops sel

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there John Ioannidis wrote: > Out of curiosity: what is wrong with the Garmin GPS 18LVC that someone > would like to look at an alternative? At < $70, it's practically free. Where can get one in Europe? USD 68.50 is ca € 50.- Some EU webshops sell it for € 114.-, which is ca USD 156.- Or can

Re: [ntp:questions] Performance of NTP under Windows Vista?

2007-11-20 Thread Eric
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:26:48 GMT, "David J Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote for the entire planet to see: >Does anyone have any measurements of NTP running under Windows Vista? In >particular, the Meinberg foehr 1520 version? Hi David - I'll let you know when my first PC is upgraded to Vista

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Dennis Hilberg, Jr.
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> What does ntpq -p show? > > $ ntpq -p > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > == > -fly.hiwaay.

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2007-11-19, Chris Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once upon a time, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>What does ntpq -p show? > > $ ntpq -p > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter >=== > xG

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What does ntpq -p show? $ ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == -fly.hiwaay.net 192.5.41.40 2 u2

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2007-11-18, Chris Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've only got one serial port (and it is a console), so I don't have > any other way to connect but USB (also, I'm using a USB to serial > adapter to pull +5V from the USB port). Everyone keeps saying that USB > must be bad, but I was trying

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Normally, finding any systematic offset would require the temporary use >of a time source that was better than your normal time sources. As I think >you are using USB, which is likely to have a significant impact, you >would also need to

Re: [ntp:questions] Reference clock all messed up?

2007-11-20 Thread Danny Mayer
Adam Bolte wrote: > Hi Danny, > >> Add iburst to this line for faster synchronization > Thanks, but being an PDC I really didn't want the clock to change too > quickly. This may seem strange not already having NTP, but the network setup > has recently changed which is what broke NTP in the first p

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP + kernel frequency

2007-11-20 Thread Spoon
David Woolley wrote: > I'm not familiar with frequency scaling, but I would suggest that if > the kernel interrupt rates are not constant, ntpd also won't be > entirely reliable. Dave Mills complains from time to time that the > Linux kernel doesn't adjust the kernel PLL parameters correctly when

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP + kernel frequency

2007-11-20 Thread Spoon
David L. Mills wrote: > Hal Murray wrote: > >> There is a lot of work going on in the Linux kernel to avoid >> unnecessary timer interrupts in order to save power on laptops >> and other systems running off batteries. > > Any work on the Linux kernel to avoid timer interrupts is incompatible