Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg NTP monitor, silly question

2009-12-23 Thread David J Taylor
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote in message news:hgrj64$d1...@news.eternal-september.org... David J Taylor wrote: I do wish there were some way of speeding this up - a variable loop bandwidth or something like that. It already does have one, and has had one since at

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread David J Taylor
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote in message news:slrnhj3at2.i10.un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca... [] ntp will eventually settle to within a millisecond. You can help by running it with the -g option, and apparently without a ntp.drift file (It a) steps to within 1/8 of a sec, and

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Hart
On Dec 23, 9:16 UTC, David J Taylor wrote: As you hint, a lot of this work has already been done for Windows, both for the slow clock (before Windows Vista) and for the faster-clock (Vista and Windows-7).  One  could perhaps ask for permission to borrow that code. While that might be nice, my

[ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Hello! I have buy an Tobit LAN!Time DCF-77 serial port receiver but this device will not work with ntp as referenc clock. I have found this site http://www.woody.ch/tobit_ntp.php and have the same configuration. # Local Clock server 127.127.8.0 mode 16 prefer The symlink have i set. Wenn i

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: The Clock works correctly on windows with the programm DCF77_32.exe provided on this site: http://www.rrs-web.net/in3her/dcf77_32.html This is about a Conrad DCF77 receiver. A Conrad DCF77 receiver doesn't have a LED. And NTPD usually receives data on RXD.

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg NTP monitor, silly question

2009-12-23 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
unruh wrote: On 2009-12-22, David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: David J Taylor wrote: I do wish there were some way of speeding this up - a variable loop bandwidth or something like that. It already does have one, and has had one since at least version 3. One problem ntp

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Es schrieb Rob van der Putten: Maybe you can post a link to the receiver you're using. I can give you a Picture: http://666kb.com/i/bf7er4kfwd3feibip.jpg MfG marc-Andre Alpers ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: I can give you a Picture: http://666kb.com/i/bf7er4kfwd3feibip.jpg Definitly not a a Conrad. Anyway, some specs would be nice. Lacking those a bit of reverse engineering. Have you tried a RS232 tester? Which LEDs are on? Which colour? Which one blinks?

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Es schrieb Rob van der Putten: Have you tried a RS232 tester? Which LEDs are on? Which colour? Which one blinks? I have no RS232 tester. The cover of the receiver is sealed. No screws. http://666kb.com/i/bf7g1grgo1sbus2c1.jpg The connector inside: http://666kb.com/i/bf7fxqd8cr17q7d8x.jpg

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Ok. I have open the cover: http://666kb.com/i/bf7gu30cuwvtkayfl.jpg http://666kb.com/i/bf7gswr7gmq48o4i9.jpg The ICs are one MAX350 and one 74HC14D. The red wire is ground. The black wire is +5V DC On brown an orange wire i have puls voltage up to 12 volt every second. But i only have a cheap

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Here some pictures from the dcf77 decoder on Win 2000 with the clock: Befor sync: http://666kb.com/i/bf7hgd6exsvtpuf2p.bmp After sync: http://666kb.com/i/bf7hia21x28co76j5.bmp MfG Marc-Andre Alpers ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread unruh
On 2009-12-23, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.delete-this-bit.and-this-part.co.uk.invalid wrote: unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote in message news:slrnhj3at2.i10.un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca... [] ntp will eventually settle to within a millisecond. You can help by running

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
On 12/23/2009 8:50 AM, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: Es schrieb Rob van der Putten: Maybe you can post a link to the receiver you're using. I can give you a Picture: http://666kb.com/i/bf7er4kfwd3feibip.jpg (Shrug) Looks like a SURE RPC modul DCF 77 Funkuhr ?

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread unruh
On 2009-12-23, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 23, 9:16?UTC, David J Taylor wrote: As you hint, a lot of this work has already been done for Windows, both for the slow clock (before Windows Vista) and for the faster-clock (Vista and Windows-7). ?One ?could perhaps ask for permission

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg NTP monitor, silly question

2009-12-23 Thread unruh
On 2009-12-23, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: unruh wrote: On 2009-12-22, David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: David J Taylor wrote: I do wish there were some way of speeding this up - a variable loop bandwidth or something like that. It already does have

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Es schrieb : Looks like a SURE RPC modul DCF 77 Funkuhr ? http://www.linum.com/de/produkte/hardware/funkuhr/dcf77/sure/seriell/fotos.htm Yes this is the Clock. With this name i found this thread: http://lists.ntp.isc.org/pipermail/questions/2006-January/008689.html But it looks that i have

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: David J Taylor wrote: -|-|-|-|-|-| It is a massive coding job. chorny is not exactly a two line program. And David Mills, who controls the algorithm of ntpd, does not have any interest in implimenting any other algorithm, at

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Hart
On Dec 23, 20:52 UTC, Marc-Andre Alpers m-a.alp...@web.de wrote: Looks like a SURE RPC modul DCF 77 Funkuhr ? http://www.linum.com/de/produkte/hardware/funkuhr/dcf77/sure/seriell/... Yes this is the Clock. With this name i found this thread:

[ntp:questions] I am not a lawyer

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Hart
On Dec 23, 20:19 UTC, unruh wrote: On 2009-12-23, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote:  I am however interested in reducing the number of different copyright notices in the reference implementation.  I'm grateful to Max K?hn and Claas Hilbrecht for removing their copyright notices from sntp

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg NTP monitor, silly question !The End!

2009-12-23 Thread G8KBV
In article 3c2dnqpl7ehlr6zwnz2dnuvz_o2dn...@giganews.com, rgilbert88 @comcast.net says... Keeping an NTPD server up and synched is not all that difficult. A UPS will keep you alive for three to fifteen minutes if power fails. The longer the UPS run time, the more it costs. Any

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: The same poster who referred you to the linum.com URL above also provided a link to a Linux Support PDF. I do not read German particularly well, but I did see a reference to parse mode 5, have you tried that? Yes i have tried mode 5, but then the LED does not

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Es schrieb Dave Hart: On my search i have found this: http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html I installed the programm and start the test mode. After a few seconds this output scrolls over my screen: lanserver:~# radioclkd -t ttyS0 DCD: 10 0 CTS: 24490096

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: The same poster who referred you to the linum.com URL above also provided a link to a Linux Support PDF. I do not read German particularly well, but I did see a reference to parse mode 5, have you tried that? Yes i have tried mode 5, but then the LED does not

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: Es schrieb Dave Hart: On my search i have found this: http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html I installed the programm and start the test mode. After a few seconds this output scrolls over my screen: lanserver:~# radioclkd -t ttyS0 DCD: 10

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread David Lord
Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: The same poster who referred you to the linum.com URL above also provided a link to a Linux Support PDF. I do not read German particularly well, but I did see a reference to parse mode 5, have you tried that? Yes i have tried

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread David Lord
Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: Es schrieb Dave Hart: On my search i have found this: http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html I installed the programm and start the test mode. After a few seconds this output scrolls over my screen: lanserver:~# radioclkd -t ttyS0 DCD: 10

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Johan Swenker
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:50:23 +0100, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote: Es schrieb Rob van der Putten: Maybe you can post a link to the receiver you're using. I can give you a Picture: http://666kb.com/i/bf7er4kfwd3feibip.jpg This device looks very much like a DCF77 receiver I have. The standard

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread David Lord
David Lord wrote: .. I can't remember if I tried radioclkd before using radioclkd2. With radioclkd2 it needs 2 - 3 minutes before getting into sync, there being status displayed at each minute. I'm not sure if WWVB mode works but you may see failure to decode that before it finds

Re: [ntp:questions] A faster settling NTP

2009-12-23 Thread unruh
On 2009-12-23, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists n...@blacklist.anitech-systems.invalid wrote: unruh wrote: David J Taylor wrote: -|-|-|-|-|-| It is a massive coding job. chorny is not exactly a two line program. And

Re: [ntp:questions] I am not a lawyer

2009-12-23 Thread unruh
On 2009-12-23, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 23, 20:19?UTC, unruh wrote: On 2009-12-23, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: ?I am however interested in reducing the number of different copyright notices in the reference implementation. ?I'm grateful to Max K?hn and Claas

Re: [ntp:questions] Tobit LAN!Time DCF77 receiver not working

2009-12-23 Thread Hal Murray
Does the software include any documentation explaining what this output means? It certainly does not seem to be in any way useful unless there is some explanation of the output. If there is none, I'd drop it in the garbage and use something else! Or look at the source code. -- These are my