Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Hal Murray
In article , David Woolley writes: >Miguel Gon=E7alves wrote: >> What is a typical offset of the loop without using special oscillators? >> Is less than 1 us achievable? >Depends on the network or reference clock, and the resolution to which >the local clock can be read. It also depends upon t

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp-keygen -M generates keys of 20 characters, yet docs for ntp-keygen state up 16 characters

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 23:58, wrote: > The documention states that MD5keys will be lss then or equal to 16 > characters in length, and consist of a printable ASCII characters and > be terminated by whitespace or #. Yet the output of 'ntp-keygen -M', > and the examples shown in the documentation

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-26, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > Hi Richard! > > On 26 September 2011 22:39, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: >> >> What is a typical offset of the loop without using special oscillators? Is >>> less than 1 us achievable? >>> >> >> I don't believe that accuracy of 1 microsecond , or less, is obt

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Hart
2011/9/26 Miguel Gonçalves : > 2011/9/26 Dave Hart >> 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves : >> > I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock >> > runs >> > too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). >> >> ntpd's offset and the frequency compensation are both

[ntp:questions] ntp-keygen -M generates keys of 20 characters, yet docs for ntp-keygen state up 16 characters

2011-09-26 Thread jnixon
All, I have a very dumb question, regarding what information is correct, and what is not. The documention states that MD5keys will be lss then or equal to 16 characters in length, and consist of a printable ASCII characters and be terminated by whitespace or #. Yet the output of 'ntp-keygen -M', an

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Just a small correction... 2011/9/27 Miguel Gonçalves > > Your chances of obtaining 1 microsecond accuracy using clocks on the >> internet is just about nil! OTOH very few people actually need >> microsecond accuracy for anything other than "bragging rights"! >> > > I know... :-) My cable connec

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Richard! On 26 September 2011 22:39, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > What is a typical offset of the loop without using special oscillators? Is >> less than 1 us achievable? >> > > I don't believe that accuracy of 1 microsecond , or less, is obtainable > without without installing a GPS Timing R

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 9/26/2011 9:41 AM, Miguel Gonçalves wrote: 2011/9/26 Dave Hart 2011/9/25 Dave Hart: 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves: tick# tail -10 /var/log/ntp/loopstats 55829 66927.314 0.11263 185.398 0.00620 0.001452 4 55829 66942.315 0.11355 185.398 0.00402 0.001358 4 55829 66957.315 0.000

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread David Woolley
Miguel Gonçalves wrote: What is a typical offset of the loop without using special oscillators? Is less than 1 us achievable? Depends on the network or reference clock, and the resolution to which the local clock can be read. ___ questions mailing

Re: [ntp:questions] blacklisted on support.ntp.org

2011-09-26 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-09-26, Cristian Seceleanu wrote: > I don't know how i managed to get blacklisted on support.ntp.org but > this happened while attempting to submit my time servers to the > stratum two list. > > I think i submited one of my servers without selecting proper stratum > and then tried to edit

Re: [ntp:questions] tickadj -A is broken was -> Re: Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 26 September 2011 02:07, Doug Calvert wrote: > tickadj always tells me I am silly when I give it the -A described in > the docs for optimized tick. I looked at tickadj.c quickly and did > not see any facilities for -A > Hi Doug! If you are running FreeBSD I suggest changing the mach.tsc_freq

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
2011/9/26 Dave Hart > 2011/9/25 Dave Hart : > > 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves : > > > >> tick# tail -10 /var/log/ntp/loopstats > >> 55829 66927.314 0.11263 185.398 0.00620 0.001452 4 > >> 55829 66942.315 0.11355 185.398 0.00402 0.001358 4 > >> 55829 66957.315 0.10197 185.398 0.00

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/9/26 Dave Hart > 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves : > > I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock runs > > too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). > > ntpd's offset and the frequency compensation are both reported as > corrections to t

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
[Sorry for such a long message] Hi David! On 25 September 2011 20:55, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> >> I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock runs >> too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). >> > > Neither. A constant