Re: [ntp:questions] NTP, GPSD PPS

2014-12-13 Thread David Taylor
On 10/12/2014 12:39, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:50:22AM +, David Taylor wrote: With -D 4 I get a list of devices ending with PPS, but presumably that is not the same as KPPS? In gpsd the PPS without K is the userspace timestamping. With kernel timestamping the log

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Rob
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Rob writes: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Rob writes: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: If you disgree and think NTP should provide the file all the time, then: - how do you propose we find out if the underlying API is really provided in the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Rob
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Paul writes: --001a11c12566ef4fbd050a04ed7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 12, 2014 12:39 AM, Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: It's an OS-specific file that should be provided by the OS if the underlying API exists. To repeat

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Rob
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Rob writes: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Martin Burnicki writes: IMO the best approach would be to detect this at runtime. That means we'd need a header file... If I'm not mistaken (and it's getting late for me), if the header file is missing

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP, GPSD PPS

2014-12-13 Thread Paul
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:52 AM, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: For some reason, gpsd seems to be stuck at a lower release for the Raspberry Pi version of Debian, so I will have a go at recompiling it once I can find the right instructions! That's if there's no

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Paul
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Current build dependencies on Debian are: That's better said on my install of Debian. I wouldn't expect it be the case on all release tracks and it doesn't help Ubuntu. Of course for an S1 operator the fact that this approach

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Rob
Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Current build dependencies on Debian are: That's better said on my install of Debian. I wouldn't expect it be the case on all release tracks and it doesn't help Ubuntu. Of course for an S1

[ntp:questions] pool.ntp.org and authentication

2014-12-13 Thread d_anderson
Hi all I was wondering if it makes sense to set up Autokey authentication on a client for when it wants to sync time from *.pool.npt.org. My goal is to encrypt communication between client and server and to make sure the server is really the one it claims to be. Can this be even done with

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Paul
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: You know what? On the ntp-dev package for Debian THE BUILD DEPENDENCIES ARE INCORRECT AS WELL!! This is an example of what NTF doesn't want to deal with. My instance of Wheezy doesn't have ntp-dev. Fortunately there is gpsd.

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP PPS, part 2 ;)

2014-12-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rob writes: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Paul writes: --001a11c12566ef4fbd050a04ed7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 12, 2014 12:39 AM, Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: It's an OS-specific file that should be provided by the OS if the underlying API

Re: [ntp:questions] pool.ntp.org and authentication

2014-12-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
d_anderson writes: Hi all I was wondering if it makes sense to set up Autokey authentication on a client for when it wants to sync time from *.pool.npt.org. My goal is to encrypt communication between client and server and to make sure the server is really the one it claims to be. Can this

Re: [ntp:questions] Number of Stratum 1 Stratum 2 Peers

2014-12-13 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2014-12-12 03:25, Harlan Stenn wrote: It's pretty easy to download and install a leapsecond file, and ntpd will pay attention to that... Not that easy - unless you are one of the lucky few to have encrypted access to a NIST source, when it may be automatic. You have to use a NIST server,

Re: [ntp:questions] Number of Stratum 1 Stratum 2 Peers

2014-12-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Brian Inglis writes: On 2014-12-12 03:25, Harlan Stenn wrote: It's pretty easy to download and install a leapsecond file, and ntpd will pay attention to that... Not that easy - unless you are one of the lucky few to have encrypted access to a NIST source, when it may be automatic.

Re: [ntp:questions] Number of Stratum 1 Stratum 2 Peers

2014-12-13 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 14/12/14 03:28, Harlan Stenn wrote: Not that easy - unless you are one of the lucky few to have encrypted access to a NIST source, when it may be automatic. http://www.ietf.org/timezones/data/leap-seconds.list Added to the Wiki at http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringNTP