Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-04 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-04, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: unruh wrote: IF you know you fixed that bug in the new version, then by allmeans tell the complainant to reinstall. But if you do not know that that bug is fixed, then

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-03 Thread David Lord
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-03 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-03, David Lord sn...@lordynet.org wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-02 Thread Harlan Stenn
David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 that seems too restrictive and possibly abusive if you do

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-02 Thread David Lord
Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 that seems too restrictive and possibly abusive if

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 09/02/2013 12:39 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote: unruh writes: In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a config file with setting that

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/02/2013 02:33 PM, David Lord wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: David Lord writes: Magnus Danielson wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 that

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/02/2013 03:49 AM, unruh wrote: On 2013-09-01, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: server ntp1.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp3.kth.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp1.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 server ntp2.sp.se iburst maxpoll 7 # Access

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Maarten Wiltink
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: [...] perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. Sorry, but I have

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Rob
Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: [...] perhaps it has already been

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Brian Utterback
On 9/1/2013 7:10 AM, Rob wrote: Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: [...]

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2013-09-01, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2013-08-31, BlackLists wrote: perhaps it has already been fixed in a more recent version. [snip] Sorry, but I have always found this to be a complete copout.

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Maarten Wiltink
Rob nom...@example.com wrote in message news:slrnl2684g.6em.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl... [...] Like unruh, I hate developers and companies with this attitude. Well, thanks, I'll keep that in mind. For the record, I have no particular dislike for you. When there is no reason to believe that a

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-01, Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:n5lUt.340835$qt4.176...@fx22.iad... On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: [...] perhaps it has

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote: On 2013-09-01, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations about the suitability this software for any purpose. It is provided

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote: On 2013-09-01, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations about the suitability this

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread Harlan Stenn
unruh writes: In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a config file with setting that change the performance so the described behavior is

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread David Lord
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote: On 2013-09-01, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright holder (The University of Delaware) makes no representations about

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-01, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 09/01/2013 10:42 PM, unruh wrote: On 2013-09-01, Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote: On 2013-09-01, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The NTP Reference Implementation is free software. The copyright holder (The University of

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-09-01 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-01, Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: unruh writes: In this case ntpd wandered off by hours with no complaint. That is not a proper behaviour of a professional piece of software. And I don't remember the config file. If the target platform has a config file with setting that

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-31 Thread unruh
On 2013-08-31, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: BlackLists wrote: What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? Unfortunatly no. I got the call after the fact, but lack of

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-31 Thread Joe Gwinn
In article kvre7q$j89$1...@dont-email.me, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: BlackLists wrote: What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? Unfortunatly no. I got the call

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/30/2013 04:17 AM, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like things are all OK, but with offsets less

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-30 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2013-08-30, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 08/30/2013 04:17 AM, BlackLists wrote: Have you tried a newer version of NTP ? http://www.ntp.org/downloads.html [snip] No, I listed the affected version as packaged by Debian. We have an autobuilder which packages the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-30 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Magnus Danielson wrote: BlackLists wrote: What ntpdc commands did you issue, and what results did you get? Unfortunatly no. I got the call after the fact, but lack of remote login due to time error would prohibit me from doing anything anyway. The server needed to be operational rather

[ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like things are all OK, but with offsets less than a second, while the node in fact was 6 days off the mark. Only on a number of ntpdc querries did some of the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPD silently not tracking

2013-08-29 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Magnus Danielson wrote: We had another incident where a node configured with multiple NTP sources had an NTPD which when asked with ntpdc have peers, looks like things are all OK, but with offsets less than a second, while the node in fact was 6 days off the mark. Only on a number of ntpdc