Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-26 Thread Charles Elliott
pool servers disappear - more data chris wrote: > On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: >> Or for $14/machine I could use a USB GPS, my machine with PPS GPS, >> and A public server that does NOT request use of DNS which yields 3 >> sources of time without using

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-26 Thread David Woolley
On 26/06/2021 00:12, William Unruh wrote: Not at all sure what you are suggesting. DNS is a way of translating names to IP addresses, which your machine MUST use to talk to a remote As already noted, there is no MUST about it. I'd put it as low as MAY, and it is definitely no more than

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: >> chris wrote: >>> On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: >> > ... >> >> Actually what I plan to do is to put a $14 USB GPS on the machine that >> already has a PPS GPS attached and do away with ALL external machines. >> >> If there are

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote:A >> Or for $14/machine I could use a USB GPS, my machine with PPS GPS, and A >> public server that does NOT request use of DNS which yields 3 sources of >> time without using a pool or DNS lookups. > > Not at all sure what you are

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: > chris wrote: >> On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: > ... > > Actually what I plan to do is to put a $14 USB GPS on the machine that > already has a PPS GPS attached and do away with ALL external machines. > > If there are two GPS receivers attached to the

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: > William Unruh wrote: >> On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: >>> chris wrote: On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: > William Unruh wrote: > > > >> I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the >> server and

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
chris wrote: > On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: >> Or for $14/machine I could use a USB GPS, my machine with PPS GPS, and A >> public server that does NOT request use of DNS which yields 3 sources of >> time without using a pool or DNS lookups. >> >> Or for $28/machine I could use 2 USB

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread chris
On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: William Unruh wrote: On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: chris wrote: On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: William Unruh wrote: I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the server and fails rather than the time that is

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
chris wrote: > On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: >> William Unruh wrote: >> >> >> >>> I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the >>> server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try >>> putting the server offline and then online again (I use

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: >> chris wrote: >>> On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: William Unruh wrote: > I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the > server and fails rather than the time that is important.

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread chris
On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: William Unruh wrote: I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try putting the server offline and then online again (I use chrony so do not remember if ntpd has

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Danny Mayer
On 6/25/21 12:10 PM, William Unruh wrote: You could try specifying the server by IP rather than by name, so DNS is not needed. Of course this rule out using pool, unless you put them in by IP. DNS is just used to translate names to IP, so if you use IP, then DNS is not needed. We strongly

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: > chris wrote: >> On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: >>> William Unruh wrote: >>> >>> >>> I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try putting the

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Marco Marongiu
Jim, can you please subscribe to the mailing list, so that I don't have to approve manually every single post you send? Thanks in advance Ciao -- bronto Il giorno ven 25 giu 2021 alle ore 08:58 Jim Pennino ha scritto: > William Unruh wrote: > > > > > I suspect it is the number of times

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the > server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try > putting the server offline and then online again (I use chrony so do not > remember if ntpd has that option). No, it doesn't.

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
Jim Pennino wrote: > I was checking the stability of a new USB GPS refclock on a server which > is configured to use the GPS, servers from the ntp pool, and another server > of mine that has a PPS GPS receiver. > > I noticed that almost all the pool servers had disappeared. > > I then checked

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-24 Thread William Unruh
On 2021-06-24, Jim Pennino wrote: > Jim Pennino wrote: >> I was checking the stability of a new USB GPS refclock on a server which >> is configured to use the GPS, servers from the ntp pool, and another server >> of mine that has a PPS GPS receiver. >> >> I noticed that almost all the pool