In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thierry MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thierry The problem is I have to support the case where I have no internet
Thierry connection. So GPS is the only time source and it takes more than
Thierry one minute for 'ntpq -gq -c /etc/ntp.boot' to complete. That is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rejean I started ntp in my linux box like this: ntpd -D99
Wow.
Rejean Output from ntpd is shown below. In the standard output i'm getting
Rejean the error addto_syslog: select(): nfound=-1, error: Interrupted
Rejean system call.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Woolley) writes:
David In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not at all - ntpd can handle being off by at most 500ppm. If the old
machine needed a drift value of, say, -300 and the new machine needed
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Richard Steve Kostecke wrote:
On 2007-07-24, Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the drift value has not changed significantly, it would be sufficient
to simply touch the file to reset the date/time. Is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Per Hedeland) writes:
Per In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] David L. Mills
Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It has been the case for the life of the distribution that, if you don't
specify a frequency file, it will never be written.
Per Which reminds
Feel free to improve the content at:
http://support.ntp.org/Support/ConfiguringGarminRefclocks
and if you have a Garmin refclock, please consider adding yourself to:
http://support.ntp.org/Support/GarminRefclockUsers
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Richard Where can one obtain a copy of the draft NTP RFC?
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ntp-ntpv4-proto-07.txt
Also see http://support.ntp.org/IETF .
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I believe that refclock is supported by the gpsvme driver.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aggie Dear All, I have been working on porting NTP to VxWorks. When I load
Aggie the ntpd to the target, it gives me a list of unresolved
Aggie symbols. Here's the list: SetLastError, getpagesize, sys_nerr,
Aggie adjtime, pipe, wait,
I see no documentation for driver21. It would be Swell if somebody who knew
what was going on wrote something for it.
I do see that there are maintainers for the refclock.
It looks like:
http://support.ntp.org/Support/ConfiguringTrueTimeRefclocks
Depending on your budget you might want some sort of atomic clock in there
for the times when you are not getting a signal. You might also want to
look at a modem driver as a 2nd source.
To my knowledge Meinberg has never been bitten by a software bug where their
clocks would report incorrect
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Richard I suspect that the precision desired was that of position rather
Richard than time.
Have you read any of Judah Levine's posts on this subject?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Richard Harlan Stenn wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard B. Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Richard I suspect that the precision desired was that of position rather
Richard than time.
Have you read any
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Per Hedeland) writes:
if ((pOpts-pzCurOpt != NULL) (*pOpts-pzCurOpt != NUL))
Per However I do think the use of NUL is unwise, having a plain '\0' there
Per instead would avoid an initial potentially confusing
Per misreading/misunderstanding
Please see http://support.ntp.org/Support/ConfiguringAutokey and be aware
that this may change soon.
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Why don't you test how well the laptop works as a time transportation
mechanism first?
And they can make their own decision about how well the alternatives work.
If the laptop does it for them, great.
If not, they might be able to use a modem driver or a low-cost (~US$80) GPS
receiver.
H
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dromedaryl Harlan, I previously tried peering all the machines and ended up
dromedaryl with all the nodes losing sync with each other. No doubt due to
dromedaryl a faulty configuration.
dromedaryl Would every node have the same ntp.conf,
I'm about to start taking a look at the 'restrict' problem, described in
http://bugs.ntp.org/828 and http://bugs.ntp.org/891.
I'm thinking that it would be Useful to have a function that would cause
ntpd to dump state, and the format of the dump should be a parsable
ntp.conf file.
In thinking
Harlan Stenn wrote:
Why don't you test how well the laptop works as a time transportation
mechanism first?
And they can make their own decision about how well the alternatives work.
If the laptop does it for them, great.
If not, they might be able to use a modem driver or a low
Henk,
Please add thoughts like this to someplace like:
http://support.ntp.org/Dev/NewNtpConfFormat#Allow_configuration_of_up_to_N_I
Past experience shows that posting thoughts like these to either the
newsgroup or a mailing list leads to good ideas that do not get implemented
because of the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Richard The quality of time and therefore the best servers depends
Richard strongly on the length of the network path between server and
Richard client.
Why are you discounting traffic volume? I'm not saying you are
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mij I submitted to pool.ntp.org with a stratum 2 NTPd server. The useful
mij system scoring however shows me significant discontinuity in the
mij service:
mij http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/81.208.58.150
I recommend plotting your own
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aggie Now I believe I need to add -mstrict-align -msoft-float -mlongcall to
Aggie the makefile in order to use double.
Aggie Any suggestion/advice will help. Thanks.
I'd recommend CFLAGS (they are needed for *compiles*, right?) in
I recommend you visit:
http://support.ntp.org/Support/ConfiguringNTP
http://support.ntp.org/Support/AccessRestrictions
if you have not already.
Do you see the 'rv' output where the timestamps are 0 and the 'stratum=16'?
This means the remote servers are telling you that they do not know the
Elio,
Have you seen http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/ ?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Patrick I'm having trouble with one linux client out of a group. It seems
Patrick as if ntpd can't keep its clock syncronized. It's drifting about
Patrick 6-10 minutes per day, well over the 500 ppm limit.
As others have
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Patrick I'm located at a university. We have a master Stratum 1 server
Patrick with a GPS clock. We also have at least four Stratum 2 servers
Patrick which are synchronized with the master. These are all very close,
Patrick
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], fishtop_records [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
fishtop OK, I've updated to 4.2.4p4 For some reason, 'make install' didn't
fishtop put the executables into /usr/ sbin as I expected as I did the
fishtop configure --prefix=/usr/sbin
You wanted: configure
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prathapnirmal) writes:
prathapnirmal * I see configure.in only in arlib directory. So do I have to
prathapnirmal update anything in this file?
No. There will be a top-level configure.ac that might need to be updated
though.
prathapnirmal * Do I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Bolte) writes:
Adam --- /etc/ntp.conf on 192.168.2.1 --- # /etc/ntp.conf
Adam server 192.168.1.1
iburst is your friend. See http://support.ntp.org/Support .
Adam Using a client on one of the subnets I control, I run: $ sudo ntpdate
Adam
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Bolte) writes:
Adam Hi Danny,
Add iburst to this line for faster synchronization
Adam Thanks, but being an PDC I really didn't want the clock to change too
Adam quickly. This may seem strange not already having NTP, but the network
Adam
Venu,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (venu gopal) writes:
venu Hi all, The GPS receiver is from an Indian Company ACCORD. It has a
venu custom NMEA data with GPS time and is validity. It also sends standard
venu NMEA data including GPGGA, GPGLL with UTC time at 9600 baudrate.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
brandon ntp-4.2.4p4 / AIX 5.3 This was annoying to chase down because I
brandon guess it's also screwing up the fds used to log errors. The
brandon symptom is that ntpd exits silently due to a bind() error, but only
brandon when
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
brandon Oops, 614 is what I meant. I did see that it is closed, but the
brandon comments on it left me with some doubt about whether it had been
brandon verified on AIX5 specifically.
VERIFIED means the person who opened the issue has
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob van der Putten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rob Mozilla and Konqueror. Complains about not being able to calculate the
Rob shipping charges.
I would hope you sent email to their webmaster...
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Kev,
Do I recall you said you were using HZ=60? If so, I recommend trying HZ=100
instead.
If you look at your logfile output, are you seeing time steps of
approximately the same amount at approximately the same time intervals?
If not, you probably have interrupt or BIOS or some other external
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Kimberley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rob Does anyone have recommendations for an ADSL Wireless Router that I can
Rob manually set the NTP Server address on?
When I care about things like that and do not like the stock firmware, I get
a unit that will accept the
There is a good reason for the move_fd code. Frank would probably know
better, and he's on vacation for another 2-3 weeks' time.
I think it has to do with making sure there is room to open different sorts
of files, and may only be important if one has refclocks.
But it could be Bad to disable
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aggie Harlan, I changed hz to 100 and ran it overnight yesterday. It seemed
Aggie like it had affect on the drift file problem, because normally the
Aggie drift file would have already been created after 10 hrs, and
Aggie complained
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aggie I think I found out where the problem is. VxWorks doesn't have
Aggie adjtime( ), and the one we wrote wasn't doing anything. That's what
Aggie makes the drift to increase to +500 (I think). Does that make
Aggie sense??
It
Danny wrote:
Harlan Stenn wrote:
There is a good reason for the move_fd code. Frank would probably know
better, and he's on vacation for another 2-3 weeks' time.
Actually I was the one that wrote it and yes there are good reasons for
doing it.
Cool - thanks for letting me know those
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David L. Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David ... The urge for utmost KISS and fewest driver files in the
David public distribution is very strong. The problem is that the
David distribution build process is so intricate that few refclock
David builders, including
Venu,
Are you volunteering to be the maintainer for this code?
If not, somebody will have to step up to do it.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David L. Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David In fact, all snapshots, releases, bugzilla, repositories, NTP home
David page and NTP project site physically reside at U Delaware. Only the
David documents maintained by the NTP Support Project are physically
David
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
linux ntpq -p
remoterefid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==
*LOCAL(0) LOCAL(0)10 l 63 64 377 0.000 0.000 0.004
master1
on a new sntp client - no idea when it will be
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David J Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Not SNTP - the management protocol SNMP.
Ah, I read too quicklky.
That is being discussed in the IETF NTP Workgroup.
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be pretty inexpensive.
And if you could write up your experience (or email it to me) I would
appreciate it.
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300 virtual IPs on
it.
This is becoming more and more common - people assign 1 IP per 'service' so
the service can be easily put on an arbitrary machine, or they use several
IPs for the service on different subnets/vlans for network architecture and
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Pierre,
You might have better luck using the normal -O flags and figuring out which
math routines are needed, and then seeing if you can find some .s files that
will implement them.
Also, configure CCFLAGS='-O whatever' may be useful.
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and it might be pretty easy for somebody to put the URLs in the various .def
files to get the interim step Hal describes out there sooner.
I'd be real happy if somebody did this, as I'm gonna be crushed for time for
the next few months' time.
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or ntp.conf documentation (for
example) would be the same on the html, man, info, etc. pages.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Harlan Please see:
Harlan http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/GNUAutoGenConversion
Harlan http://members.ntpforum.isc.org/bin/view/Main/ForumProject3
Harlan http://members.ntpforum.isc.org/bin/view/Main/ForumProject4
for that IP)
would be real helpful.
My goal is to have something that will work in general, with sufficient
capabilities to handle the difficult cases without undue baggage.
I want to get a Good solution - neither under- nor over-designed.
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Rick,
OK with you if I incorporate the stuff in your response on
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/NtpdAndNetworkSockets
? I'll either clarify things per your comments or add your comments in.
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Any thoughts?
Danny This is the NTP newsgroup. Why are you asking questions about HTTP
Danny here?
How about because it is in relation to an issues that pertains to NTP and
other folks may want to know as well.
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Hey Danny!
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unruh Unfortunately I cannot run both ntp and chrony on the same system at
Unruh the same time.
Bill,
Exactly why can you not run ntpd and chrony on the same system at the same
time?
I want the ability to run multiple
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Mayer) writes:
Danny Harlan Stenn wrote:
Unruh Unfortunately I cannot run both ntp and chrony on the same system at
Unruh the same time.
Bill,
Exactly why can you not run ntpd and chrony on the same system at the
same time?
Danny
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Sashi,
I think you are missing some SSL libraries.
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. That would at least keep the switch and ARP caches fresh and
depending on the design, the policy and NAT caches as well. - Eric
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I'm eager to work with folks to get their companies signed up as
institutional members in the NTP Forum so we can get rid of the pain and
have significantly better lives where NTP is concerned.
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/AutoconfIssues .
There are Legacy installation issues here and every time they have been
changed in the past the backlash has been Enormous.
That this issue (and so many others) is still present is another example of
why folks should join and support the NTP Forum.
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wider, in fact;
Maarten it should not be run inside virtual machines.
True, and there are still (very) valid reasons for wanting control over
where to put the config files.
And there are still other problems with time on virtual machines that need
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certainly is potentially longer than 10
Unruh bytes, that buf is ripe for buffer overflow. It should be something
Unruh like char buf[(sizeof(unsigned long)*12/5+2)]; And/or the sprintf
Unruh should be an snprintf.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unruh Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill,
ntpdate is being deprecated.
Unruh Maybe, but it should still not have bugs if it is actually still part
Unruh of the distro.
I mostly agree with you. And one reason
code, or completely
separate codebases. There is some middle ground regarding support
libraries.
I see difficult tradeoffs with either approach.
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sequence, just before starting time-critical services).
Near as I can recall, any other cases have looser constraints so they're not
particularly interesting for this conversation.
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already have internal and external links on the ntp.org site.
And if somebody wants additional or different information there, contact
information is also listed in what should be obvious places.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Harlan Stenn wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Woolley
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David I'm not convinced that SNTP will displace ntpdate for this purpose.
Why not?
David Because ntpdate is fixed
HAVE_TIMER_CREATE */ in the top level config.h). It also
Douglas compiled successfully using gcc 4.3.0 20071221. So, I really would
Douglas suspect stale configuration files on your system.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Harlan Stenn wrote:
Why would ntpd be exiting during a warm start?
David Because we are discussing using it with the -q option. If you just
David use -g, it will take a lot longer to converge within a few
David
. This is the
first request I have see for them, and leaves me with two questions:
1) how many folks want UML diagrams of the (protocol) architecture of NTP?
2) how much are how many folks willing to pay for their creation and
maintenance?
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that you do not get with:
ntpd -g ; ntp-wait
2) there have been recent changes to the initial frequency/offset situation
with ntp-dev. Have you tried the latest code to see how it behaves?
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with no overshoot and make our
adjustment, the next time we run ntpdate we will make the same adjustment
that we just did. So let's overshoot so next time we will be a bit closer.
I didn't say the idea makes a lot of sense, but hey.
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is no longer best
common practice, and it hasn't been for a decent hunk of time.
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Agreed?
If so, what benefit do we get by using the script to delay things while we
are waiting for a slew to finish while in state 4?
What difference does it make if the system in question is an client as
opposed to a server?
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. And suddenly the poor server is flooded.
2000 packets hitting ntpd all at once should not be a problem for an ntp
server in that environment.
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information you come up with to:
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Nick,
Even better would be for folks to visit:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/AccessRestrictions
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operating at? Without this last bit of information, we could tell somebody
the wrong time when they ask for it a few seconds later.
I would like to talk more with you about this.
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there is no exchange of time information.
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. Danny
Richard It's a losing battle Danny! :-)
I suspect there is disagreement on who the losers are.
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Dennis keyid is 134682920
Feel free to open a bug report on this. While there is little chance
somebody will fix it, there is *no* chance it will be fixed if nobody
remembers it.
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Venu,
What hardware and OS is this?
Have you seen the troubleshooting pages (known hardware and OS problems) at
http://support.ntp.org/Support ?
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which talks about a lost interrupt problem for that kernel.
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Andy,
All I have at the moment is to make sure you have seen the known hardware
and OS issues pages at support.ntp.org/Support/TroubleshootingNTP.
It looks like there was some more information on APIC and ACPI, but those
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and/or join the NTP Forum and/or help get companies to join the NTP Forum as
institutional members, because otherwise these features may never be
implemented.
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iburst is good. burst, very likely not.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Oberman) writes:
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iburst is good. burst, very likely not.
Kevin In general, I agree, but the context is for a connected reference
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I'm happy to get other ideas on how to improve this as well.
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See http://support.ntp.org/Support/AccessRestrictions .
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in a lot of other detail.
I'm open to suggestions on how to make improvements in this beast, and I
would prefer solutions that do not involve a step backwards in any areas.
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