Re: [ntp:questions] shared memory driver not working under windows4.2.7p273++ build?

2012-07-04 Thread Kennedy, Paul
These simply indicate that as you noticed, the Windows port currently does not include the SHM driver. However, the ?code in refclock_shm.c once was portable to Windows, and probably can be made so again without too much effort. You'll need to edit ports\winnt\include\config.h to #define

Re: [ntp:questions] Clock time synchronization of four computers

2012-07-08 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Nazim, If all you need is relative timing, pick a computer as master (a modern one one you rarely reboot is a good choice), edit the ntp.conf file to use a series (say 3) of external pool servers. then goto the other 3 machines, edit the ntp.conf file and point them at you master, NOT the pool

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-11 Thread Kennedy, Paul
pkmaybe you can post your ntp.conf file, so we can take a look. -Original Message- From: questions-bounces+p.kennedy=fugro.com...@lists.ntp.org [mailto:questions-bounces+p.kennedy=fugro.com...@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Sent:

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP on local networks

2012-07-31 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Hi Will, good questions. Before I offer an answer: 1. can you please provide samples of the ntp.conf files you have in place. It would really assist. 2. can you please provide the version of ntpd you are using? regards pk Questions: How can I configure a client/peer to always accept a

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP on local networks

2012-07-31 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Exactly so. you can purchase a GPS receiver for well under $100 connect it to a serial port + pps on any of the pc's and have microsecond accuracy in a few hours. This 'master' can then serve time to all other PC's. The systems will then behave for years of unattended use. It is a far more

Re: [ntp:questions] is USB inherently evil, or only if something else is on the bus?

2012-08-09 Thread Kennedy, Paul
I suspect Dave is on the money here. I commonly see this with RS232 data from a multitude of GNSS receivers. GNSS hardware primary purpose is typically to compute position. We are leveraging off the very handy clock stability feature inherent of GNSS. It is not uncommon for firmware developers

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP and VMware

2012-08-13 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Hi Ali, when you state ' do not synchronize their times with the server', what do you mean? if you run 'ntpq -p' on the client side, you should see something like this remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter

Re: [ntp:questions] Visual clock display?

2012-08-26 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Hi Ralph, NTP is designed to synch your PC clock to UTC. If it is doing its job correctly, your PC clock time == utc time, so any software displaying time will do the trick. If you would like to get hold of NTP's best estimate of time, I would recommend the ntpq qc tool. ntpq -c rv which

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP time compare util

2012-08-28 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Ivan, That tool would be ntpd. Just add all the servers you want to monitor, restart ntp and then run ntpq -p to see them all lined up. You can log the data to peerstats files to a file and make long term plots. Regards - Original Message - From:

Re: [ntp:questions] Have Pi, have GPS = low powered NTP server?

2012-08-29 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Hi Dave, good feedback. I have had the pi running for several days now without a hitch. Due to my dynamic IP (pending a static ip), you can find the pi and associated ntp server at: http://secondthoughts.no-ip.org I made a small realtime time-series plot and a page displaying ntpq info so I can

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP time compare util

2012-08-29 Thread Kennedy, Paul
I had a think about this oddball question last night, and decided to explore it a little further. Assuming I understand the original question from Harry Bloomfield, it came to me that the we already have the data Harry is looking for in the peerstats files, ie we have a data record for each

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS and NMEA

2012-09-09 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Prab, this is a very ambiguous question, so I shall answer it as briefly as the question demands. PPS requires specific hardware and wiring. No PPS does not. regards pk -Original Message- From: questions-bounces+p.kennedy=fugro.com...@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP client configuration

2012-09-27 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Ben, you have not yet stated what OS you are using. I think we need to know the flavour of windows you are using. If I read the mail thread, I see you have the following issues... 1. You have a problem with startup being too slow to achieve acceptable synchronisation. 2. Your windows boxes

Re: [ntp:questions] Using ntpd with custom clock

2012-10-17 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Forgive me if I am wrong, but this is a very odd request. As far as I can tell, the request is for the NTP corrections to the system clock to be used to correct a different clock. I cannot quite understand how this is of practical use. It is like diagnosing the faults on your car engine and

Re: [ntp:questions] Using ntpd with custom clock

2012-10-17 Thread Kennedy, Paul
...@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of unruh Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 5:34 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Using ntpd with custom clock On 2012-10-17, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Kennedy, Paul p.kenn...@fugro.com.au wrote: Forgive me if I am wrong, but this is a very odd

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP tunning for OWD measurements

2012-10-26 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Pedro, Unruh makes some good points here. Here is a good start point ntp.conf to get the stats logged at each server... #@Pedro, this section will log some ASCII stats of the clock quality. # You can easily plot them in scipy or your tool of choice. This is your 'baseline' for quality

Re: [ntp:questions] Using Trimble TSIP under Linux

2012-10-29 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Dave, ntpd will be in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin. On my pi the /usr/sbin is the one in use. Just copy across your newly built binary and restart with a sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart you can always kill the ntpd process (with a sudo ps -e | grep ntpd followed by sudo kill -9 processname), then run

Re: [ntp:questions] Using Trimble TSIP under Linux

2012-10-29 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Oct 29 18:45:21 2012 Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Using Trimble TSIP under Linux On 29/10/2012 09:44, Kennedy, Paul wrote: Dave, ntpd will be in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin. On my pi the /usr/sbin is the one in use. Just copy across your newly built binary and restart with a sudo /etc/init.d/ntp

Re: [ntp:questions] What is the NTP recovery time from 16s step in GPSserver?

2012-10-30 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Dave, I believe the answer to your question is 12.5 minutes. This is the time it takes to receive the full set of 25 almanac frames, which contains the GPSTime/UTC offset (amongst other things). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_signals#Almanac regards pk

Re: [ntp:questions] What is the NTP recovery time from 16s step inGPSserver?

2012-11-01 Thread Kennedy, Paul
That is one description. Another would be it is a fully functional linux computer with LAN, HDMI, SVideo, Audio, USB, Serial, and a GPIO bus with the footprint of a credit card, no moving parts which draws only 2-3 watts for US$35. My pi units run various processes such as NTP, web hosting and

Re: [ntp:questions] Using PPS

2012-12-27 Thread Kennedy, Paul
-Original Message- From: questions-bounces+p.kennedy=fugro.com...@lists.ntp.org [mailto:questions-bounces+p.kennedy=fugro.com...@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Friday, 28 December 2012 2:33 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Using PPS On 28/12/2012

Re: [ntp:questions] Using PPS

2012-12-28 Thread Kennedy, Paul
Yep. My bad. Definitely the GPIO port. Pk On 28/12/2012, at 5:45 PM, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 28/12/2012 06:53, Kennedy, Paul wrote: [] I use the type 20 driver on my pi, and PPS to the GPIO boards works a treat with an $RMC or $ZDA string

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS woes

2013-02-28 Thread Paul G
I split the gps+pps (20) into gps and pps (20 22) and that solved the problem. I do wish I knew what happened. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

[ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-05-24 Thread Paul G
I have four GPS receivers into four different computers. I've assumed that I should be able to get small offsets between them but to do so I need to set time1. If that's the correct approach how do I pick the right system to be the benchmark. So far I've just been assuming that the purpose

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-05-26 Thread Paul G
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:06:48 AM UTC-4, unruh wrote: GPS receivers are not particularly good time sources UNLESS you use PPS. All of my clocks use PPS and in fact none of them use GPS to number the seconds except the one that uses refid GPS. That clock is a purpose built NTP-equivalent

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-05-26 Thread Paul G
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:05:13 AM UTC-4, David Taylor wrote: What happens with the fudge set to zero? Please show the table for each machine. Showing 192.168.0.2 and .244 with time1 = 0 as compared to the first post where time1 was ~100 microsec. These two have gigabit interfaces. 0.2 is

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-06-20 Thread Paul G
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:25:28 PM UTC-4, unruh wrote: Lan will have delays of the order of .15ms (worse for gigabit) This not the delay reported by ntpq. Is it wrong or are you talking about another measurement? ___ questions mailing list

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-06-21 Thread Paul G
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:51:50 PM UTC-4, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: enable stats [etc. etc.] As noted earlier I've done that or it's not applicable. E.g. I only use the PPS driver and my seconds are numbered by an appliance that doesn't run

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determine hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-06-21 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 21, 2013 9:16:28 PM UTC-4, Charles Elliott wrote: You may be making a mistake using stratum 1 servers All the S1 servers are on my local network. I (temporarily) have six. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] Roof antenna, which one, would you bother?

2014-01-18 Thread Paul G
On Friday, January 3, 2014 5:54:45 AM UTC-5, Ralph Aichinger wrote: Or would you not bother at all, and just put some puck into the window (which probably works too)? I'd put a timing antenna in the attic (used Symmetricom 58532A/VIC100s, which I have, are cheap). I have one near the ceiling

Re: [ntp:questions] Quality vs. Quantity

2014-03-24 Thread Paul G
(I inadvertently sent this only to Terje Mathisen) On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Danny Mayer wrote: What do you mean by load-balancing? NTP cannot be load-balanced. Of course it can (at some cost). On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote: You really do NOT want

[ntp:questions] dynamic stratum changes

2017-05-12 Thread Szuch, Paul
Hi, I'm setting up ntp on an isolated net. Some of our linux machines run a custom time protocol that synchronizes the kernel to GPS time to sub millisecond accuracy. I've got my ntpd.conf using the local oscillator (127.127.1.1) clock at stratum 1. I'm looking to see what I should do when my

[questions] Re: NTP community feels broken

2022-06-17 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:37:15 AM UTC-4, chris wrote: > The problem is the monitoring software What software product/program do you mean? -- This is questions@lists.ntp.org Subscribe: questions+subscr...@lists.ntp.org Unsubscribe: questions+unsubscr...@lists.ntp.org

[questions] Re: NTP community feels broken

2022-06-17 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 11:24:31 AM UTC-4, chris wrote: > It's the code that polls ntp servers to verify that they are up. Where is it in this tarball: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/ntp_spool/ntp4/ntp-4.2/ntp-4.2.8p15.tar.gz If it's not there then you're probably in the wrong list/group.

[questions] Re: NTP community feels broken

2022-06-17 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 2:24:05 PM UTC-4, chris wrote: > That's correct, but the various issues with the system have been > discussed for years, yet nothing ever gets done about it. That's the > point that Philip above was making... Of course working with Harlan is difficult. Coming here

[questions] Re: NTP community feels broken

2022-06-17 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 2:12:52 PM UTC-4, chris wrote: > Nothing to do with products. ntp.org has a monitoring system that polls > every server in its database to verify that it's reachable. Perhaps you mean pool.ntp.org. It's in the ntp.org namespace but it's a separate project run by Ask

[questions] Re: NTP community feels broken

2022-06-17 Thread Paul G
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 2:33:35 PM UTC-4, David Woolley wrote: > On 17/06/2022 19:14, Paul G wrote: > > Where is it in this > > tarball:http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/ntp_spool/ntp4/ntp-4.2/ntp-4.2.8p15.tar.gz > > > > > > If it's not there then you're

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-14 Thread Paul J R
Figure I might chime in with the gps unit I got and if your in Aust i think its probably about the best deals i've seen that has a pps line (theres also another one they have if you can do smd soldering thats cheaper again).

[ntp:questions] ntp on ubuntu 12.10 with gps and pps.

2013-04-07 Thread Paul J R
Hi All, I've got a SiRF star 3 GPS with a PPS line which im trying to get running on a machine with ubuntu 12.10 and a serial port using the DCD line for pps signalling. Took quite a while as the ntpd that ships with ubuntu 12.10 appears to be compiled without pps support (please correct me

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp on ubuntu 12.10 with gps and pps.

2013-04-08 Thread Paul J R
watching it, when it adjusts the system time it seems to impact the jitter calculation quite considerably and with the other ntp servers in there, it doesnt always seem to want to choose the gps as the absolute truth. On 07/04/13 23:46, David Taylor wrote: On 07/04/2013 11:14, Paul J R wrote: Hi

[ntp:questions] Atheros AR9331 w/GPS + PPS

2015-08-31 Thread Paul J R
many references to anyone using an Atheros chipset for pps and ntp so far but im curious if anyone else has had any experiences? Regards, Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Atheros AR9331 w/GPS + PPS

2015-09-08 Thread Paul J R
On 8/09/2015 5:44 pm, Gabs Ricalde wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Paul J R <m...@pjr.cc> wrote: Hi All, Thought I might share my experiences. Got given a little AR9331 based router some months ago (gl.inet 6416a) and spun up pps on one of its gpio lines. Its been running for a

Re: [ntp:questions] More than one PPS source on Raspberry Pi?

2017-12-04 Thread Paul J R
The answer is no and yes (and also maybe).. no because the current pps-gpio driver only loads a single pin (though it could be extended to load more than one, but i dont think anyones done that). yes because the other way it could be achieved is to create a second module called pps-gpio2

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