Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-07 Thread Simon Urbanek
Just to add to that point - it is expected that the registry is appropriately updated so the correct version of R can be located. Just unpacking a ZIP won't work in general since tools using R have no reliable way to find it. Cheers, Simon > On Jun 6, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Jeroen Ooms wrote: >

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-06 Thread Jeroen Ooms
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:40 PM Steven Penny wrote: > > Theres nothing nefarious here. It would allow people to use the R environment > without running an installer. If someone is a new user they may want to try > R out, and installers can be invasive as they commonly: > > - copy files to install

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-06 Thread Steven Penny
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:06 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > FWIW, innoextract extracts the contents of the installer just fine. That is great, thank you very much: https://github.com/dscharrer/innoextract Between this thread and others I have interacted with 14 people, and you are the first person to

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/06/2019 4:48 p.m., Abby Spurdle wrote: > If they choose to continue with only EXE, > I will just keep using other programming languages. I did agree with your original suggestion. However, I don't think that a lack of zip formats, is a disincentive from using R. If you don't want to

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-05 Thread Abby Spurdle
> If they choose to continue with only EXE, > I will just keep using other programming languages. I did agree with your original suggestion. However, I don't think that a lack of zip formats, is a disincentive from using R. If you have an issue with the Windows installer, the obvious option is

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-05 Thread Martin Maechler
> Iñaki Ucar > on Tue, 4 Jun 2019 18:06:34 +0200 writes: > FWIW, innoextract extracts the contents of the installer just fine. > Iñaki Thank you, Iñaki For me too. On the Windows server (I almost only use for testing R and ESS), I've always been happy I could install

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-04 Thread Iñaki Ucar
FWIW, innoextract extracts the contents of the installer just fine. Iñaki On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 17:40, Steven Penny wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:54 PM Marc Schwartz wrote: > > I am on macOS primarily, albeit, I have run both Windows and Linux routinely > > in years past. > > With all due

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-04 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:04 PM Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I don't recall anyone asking for the zip in the 17 years after that > change, until now (though I haven't been paying attention lately, since > I retired from building the binaries a couple of years ago). > > If you think it's worthwhile to do

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-04 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:54 PM Marc Schwartz wrote: > I am on macOS primarily, albeit, I have run both Windows and Linux routinely > in years past. With all due respect, then you have no business in this thread. > That being said, these days, I do run Windows 10 under a Parallels VM on > macOS,

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-04 Thread Steven Penny
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:11 PM Marc Schwartz wrote: > I have not tried it, but if that is the case here, you may be able to use the > normal R binary installer, but adjust the default install options when > prompted, allowing you to customize the install location and other parameters, > that may

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-04 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 03/06/2019 9:16 p.m., Steven Penny wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:04 PM Duncan Murdoch wrote: I don't recall anyone asking for the zip in the 17 years after that change, until now (though I haven't been paying attention lately, since I retired from building the binaries a couple of years

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-03 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 01/06/2019 11:02 p.m., Steven Penny wrote: If you go here: https://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/bin/windows/base you see EXE installers for Windows. This contrasts with other programming languages that offer both an executable installer and ZIP files that can be extracted and run. For example Go:

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-03 Thread Marc Schwartz via R-devel
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Steven Penny wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:11 PM Marc Schwartz wrote: >> I have not tried it, but if that is the case here, you may be able to use the >> normal R binary installer, but adjust the default install options when >> prompted, allowing you to

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-03 Thread Marc Schwartz via R-devel
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Abby Spurdle wrote: > >> If you go here: >> https://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/bin/windows/base >> you see EXE installers for Windows. This contrasts with other programming >> languages that offer both an executable installer and ZIP files that can > be >> extracted

Re: [Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-03 Thread Abby Spurdle
> If you go here: > https://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/bin/windows/base > you see EXE installers for Windows. This contrasts with other programming > languages that offer both an executable installer and ZIP files that can be > extracted and run Are you suggesting that R should do the same? If so, I

[Rd] Offer zip builds

2019-06-03 Thread Steven Penny
If you go here: https://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu/bin/windows/base you see EXE installers for Windows. This contrasts with other programming languages that offer both an executable installer and ZIP files that can be extracted and run. For example Go: https://golang.org/dl and Nim: