Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-17 Thread Janko Thyson
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mark.braving...@csiro.au [mailto:mark.braving...@csiro.au] Gesendet: Freitag, 17. September 2010 01:36 An: kasperdanielhan...@gmail.com; kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com Cc: janko.thy...@ku-eichstaett.de; r-devel@r-project.org Betreff: RE: [Rd] a small

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Janko Thyson
From: Uwe Ligges ligges_at_statistik.tu-dortmund.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:23:01 +0200 On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba wrote: All, I just finished the process of build a package for the first time and found it characteristically (for R) very straightforward and well documented.

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 16.09.2010 20:18, Janko Thyson wrote: From: Uwe Liggesligges_at_statistik.tu-dortmund.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:23:01 +0200 On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba wrote: All, I just finished the process of build a package for the first time and found it characteristically (for R) very

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread William Dunlap
From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Janko Thyson Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:19 AM To: r-de...@r-project. org Subject: Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages ... Dear Uwe, in principle, I totally

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 16/09/2010 2:43 PM, Uwe Ligges wrote: On 16.09.2010 20:18, Janko Thyson wrote: From: Uwe Liggesligges_at_statistik.tu-dortmund.de Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:23:01 +0200 On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba wrote: All, I just finished the process of build a package for the first time

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Janko Thyson
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: William Dunlap [mailto:wdun...@tibco.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. September 2010 20:45 An: Janko Thyson; r-de...@r-project. org Betreff: RE: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Janko Thyson
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.dun...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. September 2010 20:55 An: Uwe Ligges Cc: Janko Thyson; r-de...@r-project. org Betreff: Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages On 16/09/2010 2:43

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 16/09/2010 2:45 PM, William Dunlap wrote: From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Janko Thyson Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:19 AM To: r-de...@r-project. org Subject: Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin R. Coombes
The phrase that caught my attention in your post is the one about running package.skeleton() over and over. When I'm developing packages, I never run it more than once. And I usually delete a lot of the files it produces (since I like to organize my functions in logical batches and not in

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
I agree with Kevin, I never run package.skeleton more than once. But one advantage to running it over and over again is if you change the names or the ordering of function arguments. That gets autowritten and I could see that being convenient if you change those a lot (as you sometime do in

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Mark.Bravington
FWIW, the package-building tools in the 'mvbutils' package-- see ?mvbutils.packaging.tools-- are supposed to alleviate much of this (provided of course you are willing to sign up to MY view of the universe...). Building a legal package out of existing code from scratch takes me less than 5

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba wrote: All, I just finished the process of build a package for the first time and found it characteristically (for R) very straightforward and well documented. Whenever I deal with open source software I always endeavor to finish the task I have in mind, and

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread Liaw, Andy
From: Uwe Ligges On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba wrote: All, I just finished the process of build a package for the first time and found it characteristically (for R) very straightforward and well documented. Whenever I deal with open source software I always endeavor to

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread peter dalgaard
On Sep 15, 2010, at 17:01 , Liaw, Andy wrote: Or else it may be possible to have some malicious person write a script that automagically generate some large number of bogus packages and submit them to CRAN... Andy Douglas Adams - - There is a theory which states that if ever

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread Kyle Matoba
Uwe, Yes, this makes good sense. All I am saying is that it is somewhat out of the open-source, the user is smart and we should not _artificially force_ him or her to jump through some hoop. I do not contend that packages destined for CRAN should have anything but the fullest documentation

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:14 AM, peter dalgaard wrote: On Sep 15, 2010, at 17:01 , Liaw, Andy wrote: Or else it may be possible to have some malicious person write a script that automagically generate some large number of bogus packages and submit them to CRAN... Andy Douglas

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-15 Thread Kyle Matoba
Yes, well, anyone clever enough to do this will not be stopped by automatically manipulating some text to fill in the minimal documentation necessary to pass checks. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Liaw, Andy andy_l...@merck.com wrote: From: Uwe Ligges On 29.08.2010 22:34, Kyle Matoba